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Covid 19 Part XX-26,644 in ROI (1,772 deaths) 6,064 in NI (556 deaths) (08/08)Read OP

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  • #4922
    ExMachina1000
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,748 ✭✭✭ExMachina1000


    ShineOn7 wrote: »
    As in the barstaff, Floorstaff, Hotel receptionists, Security etc?

    Why can't they find work again in November/December? Or in a different sector?

    No the people who end up with neurological damage due to Covid 19


  • #4923
    spookwoman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,059 ✭✭✭✭spookwoman


    From ‘brain fog’ to heart damage, COVID-19’s lingering problems alarm scientists
    https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/07/brain-fog-heart-damage-covid-19-s-lingering-problems-alarm-scientists


  • #4924
    Strumms
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,918 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    Those are just inconvenient truths, till ringing again is all that is important to some.


  • #4925
    B.A._Baracus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,241 ✭✭✭✭B.A._Baracus


    spookwoman wrote: »
    From ‘brain fog’ to heart damage, COVID-19’s lingering problems alarm scientists
    https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/07/brain-fog-heart-damage-covid-19-s-lingering-problems-alarm-scientists

    That is scary stuff. It's still only early days to see the full impact of any long term health issues.


  • #4926
    podgeandrodge
    Site Banned Posts: 5,975 ✭✭✭podgeandrodge


    Plumbthedepths wrote: »
    Only 2 out 3 wrong so . Reading that one poster would happily smear his bits with honey and engage a bear. Dispelled any notion I had he was female. Well I think it was honey and a bear.

    You know well it was honey and a bear. Stop trying to pretend you forgot, you haven't stopped thinking about it since :)


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  • #4927
    FintanMcluskey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,643 ✭✭✭FintanMcluskey


    bb1234567 wrote: »
    Yep few decimals off :p

    It's 0.0089% which is almost 1 in every 10,000 people worldwide has died of COVID.

    Or Covid has accounted for 1.9% of the total global death toll since Janurary 1st.

    But that 1.9% did not die exclusively of Covid, which lowers that percentage further


  • #4928
    fritzelly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,173 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    ShineOn7 wrote: »
    A thousand percent wrong

    "Recovered" is not recovered

    Did you even read the linked article?


    As for NPHET - they don't consider any particular businesses or trades - they look at the figures and advise government that either we are looking good or it's getting worse.
    They may advise pubs reopening is probably not a good move right now but it is ultimately the government that make any decisions

    And by all accounts it is looking like the pubs will open so I'll take that bet


  • #4929
    podgeandrodge
    Site Banned Posts: 5,975 ✭✭✭podgeandrodge


    The Unbearables wrote: »
    We are going to pay a heavy price for our stupidity.

    I brought the dog for a walk last night at around 11:30 and counted at least 5 house parties in my wider estate. These same people are going to fcuk us all.

    Some of the more glass half empty folks on here really do appear to be saddled with a lot of bad luck when it comes to compliance.


  • #4930
    FintanMcluskey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,643 ✭✭✭FintanMcluskey


    spookwoman wrote: »
    From ‘brain fog’ to heart damage, COVID-19’s lingering problems alarm scientists
    https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/07/brain-fog-heart-damage-covid-19-s-lingering-problems-alarm-scientists

    Oh believe me, that "brain fog" isnt exclusive to Covid victim's


  • #4931
    ShineOn7
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,550 ✭✭✭ShineOn7


    ExMachina1000 wrote: »
    No the people who end up with neurological damage due to Covid 19


    Ah!

    Yes, the physical after effects of Covid aren't getting enough coverage from our media

    The pubs though?

    Yes, let's make them front page news this week when it's announced on Thursday that they're not reopening on the 10th :rolleyes:


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  • #4932
    ILoveYourVibes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,215 ✭✭✭✭ILoveYourVibes


    Cases are creeping up here. So far FF have been a farce.


  • #4933
    podgeandrodge
    Site Banned Posts: 5,975 ✭✭✭podgeandrodge


    hmmm wrote: »
    https://www.jpost.com/Israel-News/Nobel-laureate-Israel-will-have-no-more-than-ten-coronavirus-deaths-621407

    I'm on the positive side of things, but I'm thinking that this guy's modus operandi is to throw a lot of stuff out there, with sometimes varying interpretation, and sometimes it'll stick. I always hope he's right, but he's talking a lot of bollix at times much as I hate to admit it.


  • #4934
    FintanMcluskey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,643 ✭✭✭FintanMcluskey


    podgeandrodge wrote: »
    Some of the more glass half empty folks on here really do appear to be saddled with a lot of bad luck when it comes to compliance.

    The lack of compliance horror stories are directly correlated to the persistent pessimism posted on a daily basis


  • #4935
    fritzelly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,173 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    spookwoman wrote: »
    From ‘brain fog’ to heart damage, COVID-19’s lingering problems alarm scientists
    https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/07/brain-fog-heart-damage-covid-19-s-lingering-problems-alarm-scientists

    Read the article beyond the headline


  • #4936
    Myramar
    Closed Accounts Posts: 49 ✭Myramar


    flanna01 wrote: »
    Too be honest here..
    50 to 100 cases a day is not something to get your britches up in a bunch about is it really..??

    Don't want to repeat the whole quote but I do want to reference it.
    I'm about as big a "curtain twitcher," "doom and gloom merchant", "mask nazi" "bed wetter" as you can get. I loathe the ideas of taking risks with this unknown virus. The Spanish Flu came in three waves. The second many times more virulent than the first and it took out many time more people because complacency had set in. The third wave was much more benign. Covid might be and probably will be totally different. The point is we don't know.

    The "Powers that Be" are not concerned with what it has done. They are worried about the unknown. Maybe they have some compassion for old folks in Care Homes but, be under no illusion- - They won't screw up an economy for them. They won't even do the minimum it takes to stop homeless people dying on the streets or to treat asylum seekers with dignity so give me a break. They are not pi55ing away 30 billion to save some old folk when anyone could tell you they could spend a fraction of this securing Care Homes.

    I have read flann01's post and a lot of it makes sense. That' is the cruel irony of a virus. A lockdown gets you only so far. The prevalence of the virus reduces radically but as it gets lower the law of diminishing returns sets in. Another week in lock down takes 1,000 more infected cases out of the country. The next week 500, the next 250 and so on. A point is reached when the bang for your buck is just not there.
    Nevertheless the virus can re-surge from small beginings with it's exponential growth. It started with a guy in Woohan and a Pangolin.

    We have to figure a way of dealing with this. We have to dip our toe in the water. If we never make a mistake or go too far then we are being too careful. We have to be prepared to pivot fast and backtrack on our decisions. Admit we were wrong.

    This is stuff that is Anathama to Governments. They have never had to work on this level before. And neither have we.


  • #4937
    Plumbthedepths
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    Strumms wrote: »
    Get that many people becoming infected the economy will cease to be. Short term team pain means longer and faster gain, for everyone... getting going too soon is suicide.
    Nonsense, sorry but its pointless even trying to respond to this.


  • #4938
    ExMachina1000
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,748 ✭✭✭ExMachina1000


    If e everyone wore a mask at all times when out of the house it would be a huge step.
    Respiratory droplets have travel up to 7 meters when someone is talking. Put a mask on and its down to 1 metre.
    That's an easy step


  • #4939
    Plumbthedepths
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    Strumms wrote: »
    Those are just inconvenient truths, till ringing again is all that is important to some.

    A virus less than 7 months old and you have people claiming they know what the permanent damage is. Quick contact the CDC, WHO in case they don't know.


  • #4940
    Plumbthedepths
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    ExMachina1000 wrote: »
    If e everyone wore a mask at all times when out of the house it would be a huge step.
    Respiratory droplets have travel up to 7 meters when someone is talking. Put a mask on and its down to 1 metre.
    That's an easy step

    So in a open public space droplets without the impact of airflow or environmental factors can travel up to 7 metres, soz but I'm going to have to ask for something a little bit more than your word. A study prehaps.


  • #4941
    Plumbthedepths
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    FintanMcluskey wrote: »
    The lack of compliance horror stories are directly correlated to the persistent pessimism posted on a daily basis

    'Do you think people are seeking situations to feel terrified in Dan?' ' Certainly appears that way Ted although the reasons allude me'.


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  • #4942
    FintanMcluskey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,643 ✭✭✭FintanMcluskey


    Plumbthedepths wrote: »
    'Do you think people are seeking situations to feel terrified in Dan?' ' Certainly appears that way Ted although the reasons allude me'.

    Some of the link's posted here are the result, I believe, of trawling the net for hours, with the sole purpose of finding the most depressing drivel while only just maintaining the will to live


  • #4943
    nocoverart
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,354 ✭✭✭nocoverart


    podgeandrodge wrote: »
    Some of the more glass half empty folks on here really do appear to be saddled with a lot of bad luck when it comes to compliance.

    If we suddenly had a Vaccine and had a choice between giving the glass half empty folk the Vaccine or a Benzo, I think the Benzo would be the most beneficial decision for them.


  • #4944
    Plumbthedepths
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    FintanMcluskey wrote: »
    Some of the link's posted here, are the result, I believe, of trawling the net for hours, to find the most depressing drivel one can find while only just maintaining the will to live

    I thought the €350 payment was a great idea at the time, but the longer you allowed people sit on their hole watching Netflix the more detached from reality they became.
    Seriously wtf do they think will pay for services they presently enjoy eg health, education,etc.


  • #4945
    spookwoman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,059 ✭✭✭✭spookwoman


    FintanMcluskey wrote: »
    Oh believe me, that "brain fog" isnt exclusive to Covid victim's

    Did you even read the article?


  • #4946
    fritzelly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,173 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    spookwoman wrote: »
    Did you even read the article?

    Did you?

    Seriously this thread has become full of doom merchants linking to any old junk to pacify their need for the end of the world scenarios

    There is literally just a few posters left who are in anyway sensible and reasonable and even they are being hounded out of it.


  • #4947
    spookwoman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,059 ✭✭✭✭spookwoman


    fritzelly wrote: »
    Did you?
    Yes I did and there are a few places now starting studies into the long term effects of the virus.


  • #4948
    Plumbthedepths
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    spookwoman wrote: »
    Did you even read the article?

    Honest question would you say the individual who was the subject matter was an outlier or the common experience of Covid positive persons?


  • #4949
    FintanMcluskey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,643 ✭✭✭FintanMcluskey


    Plumbthedepths wrote: »
    I thought the €350 payment was a great idea at the time, but the longer you allowed people sit on their hole watching Netflix the more detached from reality they became.
    Seriously wtf do they think will pay for services they presently enjoy eg health, education,etc.

    This thread is a bizzare insight into dealing with crisis, or rather how to react with rationalisation when crisis occurs.

    But back to your point, when austerity returns, its not going to be pleasant


  • #4950
    FintanMcluskey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,643 ✭✭✭FintanMcluskey


    spookwoman wrote: »
    Did you even read the article?

    I did,I just made the point "brain fog" is rather common, now that may signify that Covid has infected a large number of the population, which would be in agreement with your post


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  • #4951
    spookwoman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,059 ✭✭✭✭spookwoman


    Plumbthedepths wrote: »
    Honest question would you say the individual who was the subject matter was an outlier or the common experience of Covid positive persons?
    I'm not an expert on the disease so you'd better off putting that question to one.


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