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22,698 people recovered in Ireland so far. But how many of them are 100% ok after?

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  • 03-06-2020 6:06pm
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    ShineOn7
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    Does "recovered" just mean you're no longer testing positive for Covid, but you might be left with 6 months of rehab to walk again? Or left with 20% less lung capacity etc?

    Some have contracted Guillain–Barré syndrome immediately afterwards, leaving them in a wheelchair. A third of COVID-19 patients have reported neurological symptoms

    So - as far as the stats go - how recovered is recovered? Genuinely curious


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    Away With The Fairies
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    Over a third... That is quite alot.

    There definitely seems to be a long recovery in some. I know someone with on and off symptoms for about 8 weeks.

    This is not a mild illness we were told it would be.


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    Benimar
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    I only know one person who had it. Ended up hospitalised.

    3 weeks after being discharged they were still barely able to move off the bed/couch.

    'Recovered' is a bit vague I think.


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    AllGunsBlazing
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    Away With The Fairies wrote: »
    Over a third... That is quite alot.

    There definitely seems to be a long recovery in some. I know someone with on and off symptoms for about 8 weeks.

    This is not a mild illness we were told it would be.

    This person tested positive?


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    Away With The Fairies
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    AllGunsBlazing wrote: »
    This person tested positive?

    They got a false negative.


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    stephenjmcd
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    Away With The Fairies wrote: »
    They got a false negative.

    So they never actually got a postive test ?? So you don't know if it is covid, your just guessing.
    Without a postive test or anti body test you can't say it's a false negative


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    Away With The Fairies
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    stephenjmcd wrote: »
    So they never actually got a postive test ?? So you don't know if it is covid, your just guessing.
    Without a postive test or anti body test you can't say it's a false negative

    Tests fail. Their own doctor said they would bet their bank account that it was a false negative. But never mind, there's a second mysterious virus doing the rounds causing all this.


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    stephenjmcd
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    Away With The Fairies wrote: »
    Tests fail. Their own doctor said they would bet their bank account that it was a false negative. But never mind, there's a second mysterious virus doing the rounds causing all this.

    So again theres no confirmation so you don't know therefore can't say it's a false negative.

    Get an antibody test so when they become available.


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    normanoffside
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    Away With The Fairies wrote: »
    They got a false negative.

    This person wouldn't be on these statistics
    stephenjmcd wrote: »
    So again theres no confirmation so you don't know therefore can't say it's a false negative.

    Get an antibody test so when they become available.

    They are available in most travel vaccination clinics


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    D.Q
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    Purely anecdotal, my uncle got it, hospital, pneumonia etc

    Full recovery, he's completely OK.

    Again purely anecdotal from a stranger on the Internet so take it as you want.


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    Away With The Fairies
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    D.Q wrote: »
    Purely anecdotal, my uncle got it, hospital, pneumonia etc

    Full recovery, he's completely OK.

    Again purely anecdotal from a stranger on the Internet so take it as you want.

    This is one strange virus, how it's affecting people in different ways.


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    ceadaoin.
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    Away With The Fairies wrote: »
    Tests fail. Their own doctor said they would bet their bank account that it was a false negative. But never mind, there's a second mysterious virus doing the rounds causing all this.

    Well yes, there are many other viruses and illnesses besides covid. If they tested negative, chances are it was/is something else and not just a false result. If they think they still have it why not get another test?

    I find it strange how a lot of these people having long lasting and varied symptoms have tested negative.


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    Away With The Fairies
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    ceadaoin. wrote: »
    Well yes, there are many other viruses and illnesses besides covid. If they tested negative, chances are it was/is something else and not just a false result. If they think they still have it why not get another test?

    I find it strange how a lot of these people having long lasting and varied symptoms have tested negative.

    They were away on holidays to an affected region earlier in the year. Chances are that it was Covid-19.

    - On holidays
    - Symptoms
    - Doctor thinks it was false negative

    But boards thinks differently.


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    D.Q
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    D.Q wrote: »
    Purely anecdotal, my uncle got it, hospital, pneumonia etc

    Full recovery, he's completely OK.

    Again purely anecdotal from a stranger on the Internet so take it as you want.

    I should also point out he got a false negative too. Similar to what people are saying here, doctors 100% he had it, but test said negative


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    Beasty
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    We don't know how many have had it, so any "recovery" figures are not particularly useful


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    There are so many cases around the world that I’m pretty sure you’d be hearing about it if people were having major after affects. Especially with a scaremongering government and media like Ireland.


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    Away With The Fairies
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    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    There are so many cases around the world that I’m pretty sure you’d be hearing about it if people were having major after affects. Especially with a scaremongering government and media like Ireland.

    There's Facebook recovery groups, I joined up to get a better understanding of this and what to expect if/when I get it.

    Some people on week 10 and still no break in their symptoms.


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    Flippyfloppy
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    This is an informative article worth a read: https://www.nationalgeographic.com/science/2020/06/how-long-does-coronavirus-last-inside-the-body-cvd/


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    stretchaq
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    4 friends and an Aunty all mates 30-40 perfect after 2 weeks, aunty 77 with COPD perfect after 4 weeks


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    ceadaoin.
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    Away With The Fairies wrote: »
    There's Facebook recovery groups, I joined up to get a better understanding of this and what to expect if/when I get it.

    Some people on week 10 and still no break in their symptoms.

    Definitely no crackpots on facebook who jump on the latest illness bandwagon (chronic lyme disease anyone?)


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    Away With The Fairies
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    ceadaoin. wrote: »
    Definitely no crackpots on facebook who jump on the latest illness bandwagon (chronic lyme disease anyone?)

    Latest illness bandwagon... What a way to describe it. Just because you can't see if someone has Lyme disease, it doesn't mean they don't have it.

    Maybe you would like something like the smallpox, something you can see.


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    Effects
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    Away With The Fairies wrote: »
    Their own doctor said they would bet their bank account that it was a false negative. But never mind, there's a second mysterious virus doing the rounds causing all this.

    So why didn’t your mate get tested a few more times, when there was a good chance they had a lot of money to gain?

    Worst that could happen is they had peace of mind they never had covid.


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    Effects
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    D.Q wrote: »
    doctors 100% he had it, but test said negative

    Doctor needs to go back to medical school so.


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    ceadaoin.
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    Away With The Fairies wrote: »
    Latest illness bandwagon... What a way to describe it. Just because you can't see if someone has Lyme disease, it doesn't mean they don't have it.

    Maybe you would like something like the smallpox, something you can see.

    I'm specifically talking about the people who claim to be having wide ranging symptoms for months on end, and despite negative tests, they are convinced its covid 19. Just like "chronic" lyme disease, there is no evidence that this is a thing in relation to coronavirus. All I'm saying is take what you read on facebook with a grain of salt.


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    4068ac1elhodqr
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    The other month Covid-19 test kits in Tanzania have raised suspicion after samples taken from a goat, sheep and a pawpaw fruit (not even an animal/mamal) and all gave positve results. It was not stated where they were sourced, but a good guess might be China.

    If you like the odd dash of pepper, the general cure for any fever there, is pepper soup (with lots of pepper in it, and pepper on top).

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/africa/coronavirus-tanzania-test-kits-suspicion-goat-pawpaw-positive-a9501291.html


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    Polar101
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    Away With The Fairies wrote: »
    Over a third... That is quite alot.

    Well, that was of 214 hospitalised Chinese patients in January and February - so people who got to a serious condition.

    I'd wager treatments have improved since, as well.


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    bb1234567
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    I think if there were serious long term (as in still present issues after no longer testing positive) we would be hearing more about it


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    MickeyLeari
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    Away With The Fairies wrote: »
    Tests fail. Their own doctor said they would bet their bank account that it was a false negative. But never mind, there's a second mysterious virus doing the rounds causing all this.

    Would that be Covid 20 or Covid 21? Or perhaps it could be one of the 18 previous Covid viruses which could be still around?


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    Kermit.de.frog
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    Even if you have had it and 'recovered' that may not be the end of the story.

    No one knows the complications this disease can cause.

    This is part of the problem. If it was a simple cold or flu no country would be closed up. But it's not and no one knows what the complications are for those you have had it.

    The asymptomatic are in a far worse position. It's a question then of dormancy and when it starts to attack the immune system, when it 'activates'. Is it when the person hits 21, 30, 45, 50 or 60? Will it activate at the first sign of weakness - i.e common illness? Is it measured in months or years before activation? Will it activate based on the season?

    No one knows.

    This is why it so dangerous.


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    Friends brother in law ended up in ICU with what they believe to be covid, yet three tests came back covid negative. Yet his wife has tested positive for covid.


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    Peregrinus
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    Beasty wrote: »
    We don't know how many have had it, so any "recovery" figures are not particularly useful
    That's not quite true. We can look at a population of people who we know have had it, and monitor their recovery.

    For obvious reasons, the long-tailed consquences of CV-19 aren't known yet. There's a lot of diseases where many sufferers recover quickly; some sufferers recover slowly; and some have long-term or permanent consequences. CV-19 may well turn out to be one of these.

    We already know that, even in the acute phase of the disease, different people have different experiences. Some, for example, develop pneumonia while others do not. And it's already the case that pneumonia has a long recovery time, so CV-19 sufferers who develop pneumonia will typically have a longer recovery time than those who do not.

    You'd expect that, as a rough rule of thumb, the more severe your condition during the acute phase of the disease, the longer your recover period will be and the more likely you are to have diverse complications and consequences. But in the nature of things it will be some time before a clear picture emerges; you can't study how well people are, say, six months after being diagnosed with CV-19 until you have a population who were diagnosed 6 months ago, which of course we don't.


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