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Covid 19 Part XX-26,644 in ROI (1,772 deaths) 6,064 in NI (556 deaths) (08/08)Read OP

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  • #3992
    ACitizenErased
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,767 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    ShineOn7 wrote: »
    There's that sugarcoating "everything is grand, nothing to see here" attitude again

    There's multiple evidence and examples of lingering and serious after effects of getting this, even if you're not hospitalised
    8 people in hospital, I think we're doing okay, no matter how much you try to convince me.


  • #3993
    seanb85
    Closed Accounts Posts: 189 ✭✭seanb85


    stephenjmcd wrote: »
    Slovakia was held up as an example of shutting down and getting down to low figures. Opened up at 2 & 3 cases a day. Reported 45 today. No rollback of measures

    I think only having 29 deaths so far is solid justification for their early shutdown, mandatory mask measures and border closures.

    Also gave them time to get measures in place to manage an increased caseload.

    Like everyone else if the increased cases are difficult to control, they may have to resort to cruder measures.


  • #3994
    wadacrack
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,172 ✭✭✭wadacrack


    Doctor Jimbob wrote: »
    Why are people suggesting we haven't got this under control? Deaths, hospitalisations, ICU admissions are all staying low. We're clearly picking up a higher number of asymptomatic or very mild cases.

    It takes weeks for things to escalate. Florida were claiming it wasn't that serious as initially their death rate was very low. The disease dosent just magically simmer at low levels. That can only happen if all cases all linked to clusters. This is not the case now and the situation has changed very quickly.


  • #3995
    Seamai
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,250 ✭✭✭Seamai


    mean gene wrote: »
    Not bad

    The only positive I can take from those figures is the 0 deaths. If we accept that 45 new cases is OK it's only a matter of time before they double again.
    There seems to be an attitude amongst some here that our track and trace system is top notch and all clusters are accounted for so we're OK. I'd be more a prevention is better than cure man myself.


  • #3996
    ACitizenErased
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,767 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    Still can't believe people find this case increase surprising, have ye been all living under rocks?


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  • #3997
    Strumms
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,926 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    Doctor Jimbob wrote: »
    I would have thought this was obvious but you can do all of those things and still enjoy going to the pub.

    I would have thought this was obvious... but pubs are not necessary and by the nature of what they are and what we engage in there it can and will be a major catalyst in the spread of this disease, after so many people made so many sacrifices to get us ‘on track’ and better... yep the greed hog publicans won’t complain and neither will all the fûckwit attention seekers in ‘need of a chat’.


  • #3998
    manofwisdom
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,119 ✭✭✭manofwisdom


    fritzelly wrote: »
    We have worse figures than from when they delayed it (average 20 a day, we're now at 44) - no way they will go ahead now
    Not worse outside of the isolated clusters though. Which has target testing, track and tracing


  • #3999
    polesheep
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,950 ✭✭✭polesheep


    ACitizenErased wrote: »
    9 in Limerick, 8 in Kildare, 7 in mayo, 6 in Cavan and 4 in Dublin

    Must be another cluster in Limerick

    Better close Dublin;)


  • #4000
    ACitizenErased
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,767 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    I reckon we're seeing a Kildare-factory situation in Limerick. Small increases last 3 days, with no reason why. Exact same thing as what happened in Kildare earlier this week.


  • #4001
    Plumbthedepths
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    The Unbearables wrote: »
    Wow. Terrible numbers today. We could very easily lose control of this thing at this rate.

    45'cases? How many hospitalised?


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  • #4002
    ACitizenErased
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,767 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    manofwisdom wrote: »
    Not worse outside of the isolated clusters though. Which has target testing, track and tracing
    Our community referrals are incredibly low indeed


  • #4003
    The Unbearables
    Closed Accounts Posts: 359 ✭✭The Unbearables


    fritzelly wrote: »
    Never happen - there'll be riots

    :pac: This is Ireland not France. It should say "keep your head down" on our flag.


  • #4004
    polesheep
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,950 ✭✭✭polesheep


    The Unbearables wrote: »
    Wow. Terrible numbers today. We could very easily lose control of this thing at this rate.

    Nope, this is living with the virus. The only numbers that matter are the numbers in hospital.


  • #4005
    Murple
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 337 ✭✭Murple


    Doctor Jimbob wrote: »
    Why are people suggesting we haven't got this under control? Deaths, hospitalisations, ICU admissions are all staying low. We're clearly picking up a higher number of asymptomatic or very mild cases.

    Or those diagnosed aren’t yet in hospital. Or may have already passed it on to someone who will need hospitalisation or sadly die from it.
    As I read one person putting it:
    “ Hospitals and ICU reflect the past. People can spend a long time in ICU with COVID. New cases reflect the present and give an indication of the future.”
    Spikes in cases diagnosed are often followed by increase in hospitalisations and deaths a week or two later. It has happened in other countries already.
    We have no reason to be complacent...or in denial.


  • #4006
    polesheep
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,950 ✭✭✭polesheep


    ShineOn7 wrote: »
    Lol, you must be fcuking joking Fitz

    We're an all mouth and no action nation and have been for decades

    Water charges anyone?


  • #4007
    wadacrack
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,172 ✭✭✭wadacrack


    0.7 % no mention of this. When it was 0.2 % I think it was mentioned every day


  • #4008
    GooglePlus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,010 ✭✭✭GooglePlus


    ACitizenErased wrote: »
    Still can't believe people find this case increase surprising, have ye been all living under rocks?

    It'll only continue to increase. You'd have to be stupid or holding onto every inch of positivity not to see that the daily case rate will only keep going up.That is the nature of this virus and nothing about it's spreadability has changed since March, so a measure reversal even near back to normal will only allow it to spread as it did.


  • #4009
    Jimi H
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 375 ✭✭Jimi H


    I haven’t been following the thread but heard on the radio this morning that a number of those that had tested positive had not been self isolating. Any info on this? Some difficult decisions ahead.


  • #4010
    Itssoeasy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,198 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    ShineOn7 wrote: »
    There's that sugarcoating "everything is grand, nothing to see here" attitude again

    There's multiple evidence and examples of lingering and serious after effects of getting this, even if you're not hospitalised

    How the hell is broadly taking the same position as the acting CMO of this country sugar coating ?


  • #4011
    Boggles
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42,566 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    Jesus lads, increase in cases leads to an increase in hospitalizations which leads to deaths.

    We are on Virus time not the other way around.

    Hopefully these are just manageable once off clusters and we are not seeing a reseeding of the virus in the community wholesale.


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  • #4012
    polesheep
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,950 ✭✭✭polesheep


    Murple wrote: »
    Or those diagnosed aren’t yet in hospital. Or may have already passed it on to someone who will need hospitalisation or sadly die from it.
    As I read one person putting it:
    “ Hospitals and ICU reflect the past. People can spend a long time in ICU with COVID. New cases reflect the present and give an indication of the future.”
    Spikes in cases diagnosed are often followed by increase in hospitalisations and deaths a week or two later. It has happened in other countries already.
    We have no reason to be complacent...or in denial.

    The reverse has happened very recently. See Leicester.


  • #4013
    ACitizenErased
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,767 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    GooglePlus wrote: »
    It'll only continue to increase. You'd have to be stupid or holding onto every inch of positivity not to see that the daily case rate will only keep going up.That is the nature of this virus and nothing about it's spreadability has changed since March, so a measure reversal even near back to normal will only allow it to spread as it did.

    Come back to me in two weeks


  • #4014
    podgeandrodge
    Site Banned Posts: 5,975 ✭✭✭podgeandrodge


    Jim_Hodge wrote: »
    The three hours is the more worrying breach of the regulations.

    In what way though? Where do you perceive the risk from the extra hour?


  • #4015
    spookwoman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,059 ✭✭✭✭spookwoman


    Jimi H wrote: »
    I haven’t been following the thread but heard on the radio this morning that a number of those that had tested positive had not been self isolating. Any info on this? Some difficult decisions ahead.

    Here is the statement on the gov website dont know the full details
    https://www.gov.ie/en/press-release/4e809-statement-from-the-national-public-health-emergency-team-31st-july/


  • #4016
    Renjit
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 949 ✭✭✭Renjit


    As long as death count doesn't increase, we should be fine.


  • #4017
    polesheep
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,950 ✭✭✭polesheep


    podgeandrodge wrote: »
    In what way though? Where do you perceive the risk from the extra hour?

    The virus has a watch.


  • #4018
    The HorsesMouth
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 513 ✭✭✭The HorsesMouth


    I am open to correction but I think the clusters in limerick and clare are rumoured to be associated with a funeral where social distancing and the numbers were not adhered to. Take from that what you will.
    Again, not saying this is fact but that's what I'm hearing from people I know in the area.


  • #4019
    podgeandrodge
    Site Banned Posts: 5,975 ✭✭✭podgeandrodge


    Away With The Fairies wrote: »
    They have a very sad, dull life if that's their only social life.
    Away With The Fairies wrote: »
    There's more to life than drinking alcohol.

    We can't all have derring-do lives like you fairy though. Some of us just want to live sedate lives.


  • #4020
    ShineOn7
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,550 ✭✭✭ShineOn7


    Murple wrote: »
    We have no reason to be complacent...or in denial.

    Exactly

    We are now averaging 44 cases a day and yet people think because the numbers are low in hospital now that they'll stay that way. That's not how this thing works

    Have we not learned from April and May?

    Anyhoo, time for some fresh air. This daily thread really is becoming an unreadable jokeshop with all the sugarcoaters


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  • #4021
    s1ippy
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,980 ✭✭✭s1ippy


    Stephen Donnelly sending out some contradictory messages, claiming a significant proportion of cases today are linked to clusters. 18 out of 45 isn’t a significant proportion.

    https://twitter.com/DonnellyStephen/status/1289612321149476865?s=20

    https://twitter.com/DonnellyStephen/status/1289608607084867585?s=20


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