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Insufferable beer snobs.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,029 ✭✭✭clsmooth


    LeBash wrote: »
    All these craft beers are all fine and whatever but Jesus H the next morning is an absolute lottery in what state you're going to wake up in.

    I was in a place about 9 months ago that is trying to be super trendy but all the old heads who used to drink in the pub before it was done up, who are not trendy but still tied to that piece of ground as a watering hole were still there. I asked for a Heineken and the look I got back, followed by a massive "tut" and an explanation of why they don't sell it, followed by a run of beers they had and a break down of their flavours etc, etc. Now I'm a f*cking gentleman, so i politely allowed him ramble for about 40 seconds but couldn't take it anymore. I just said "OK, I havent a clue what to try, too much info to take in, can I just have a larger that has plenty of flow on the tap tonight".

    2 pints that night, next day I feel like I woke up in the middle of my own autopsy, had to leg it to the jax, monster seedy headache,.......go to brush my teeth and as soon as the brush touched my tongue I blew chunks in the sink because I got a hit of the residual taste.

    Im all for small businesses but i know the effects of Heineken. I know I can have 6 pints a little bit to eat and I can function at 75% the next day. Occasionally operating at 75% for a day is fine. I dont want 2 pints and feeling like I was on a 10 day session ever. Not even if my goal the next day is to get from bed to couch to kitchen table, to couch, to bed.

    So as they say on dragons den "for that reason.....im out" on the whole craft beers gig.

    Rookie mistake. First thing with craft beer, check the ABV before ordering one. Might have been a double or even a triple IPA you were given 😵


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,242 ✭✭✭brisan


    I drink Smithwicks and have done for 44 years (I am 60)
    When I go for a pint ,I want a pint not a liquid dessert.
    I don't want something with a rich taste of chocolate ,coffee and a hint of blackberry and as for the aftertaste of vanilla they can shove it
    I like the food in the Porterhouse and in the Market bar but its food and 2 pints and I am out of there.
    An increasing number of hip pubs not serving Guinness and Smithwicks these days
    Wont be getting any of my cash


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,196 ✭✭✭MonkstownHoop


    brisan wrote: »
    I drink Smithwicks and have done for 44 years (I am 60)
    When I go for a pint ,I want a pint not a liquid dessert.
    I don't want something with a rich taste of chocolate ,coffee and a hint of blackberry and as for the aftertaste of vanilla they can shove it
    I like the food in the Porterhouse and in the Market bar but its food and 2 pints and I am out of there.
    An increasing number of hip pubs not serving Guinness and Smithwicks these days
    Wont be getting any of my cash

    Smithwicks is coloured water


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,242 ✭✭✭brisan


    Smithwicks is coloured water
    Do you drink Heino in the rugby club with Tristan


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,679 ✭✭✭Hoboo


    Had a can of whiplash IPA last week. Immediately took me back to 2000, when I was drinking breo and everyone said it tasted like ****e. It's exactly the same taste.

    Craft beer is nothing but expensive homebrew.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,196 ✭✭✭MonkstownHoop


    brisan wrote: »
    Do you drink Heino in the rugby club with Tristan

    No actually I despise rugby as it happens, anything else you'd care to level at me?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,196 ✭✭✭MonkstownHoop


    Hoboo wrote: »
    Had a can of whiplash IPA last week. Immediately took me back to 2000, when I was drinking breo and everyone said it tasted like ****e. It's exactly the same taste.

    Craft beer is nothing but expensive homebrew.

    Wrong


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,789 ✭✭✭ec18


    Smithwicks is coloured water
    brisan wrote: »
    Do you drink Heino in the rugby club with Tristan


    Both are like dirty dishwater :D:D
    Wrong

    Not exactly, a lot of the craft breweries would have started off as homebrew operations


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,092 ✭✭✭Reputable Rog


    LeBash wrote: »
    All these craft beers are all fine and whatever but Jesus H the next morning is an absolute lottery in what state you're going to wake up in.

    I was in a place about 9 months ago that is trying to be super trendy but all the old heads who used to drink in the pub before it was done up, who are not trendy but still tied to that piece of ground as a watering hole were still there. I asked for a Heineken and the look I got back, followed by a massive "tut" and an explanation of why they don't sell it, followed by a run of beers they had and a break down of their flavours etc, etc. Now I'm a f*cking gentleman, so i politely allowed him ramble for about 40 seconds but couldn't take it anymore. I just said "OK, I havent a clue what to try, too much info to take in, can I just have a larger that has plenty of flow on the tap tonight".

    2 pints that night, next day I feel like I woke up in the middle of my own autopsy, had to leg it to the jax, monster seedy headache,.......go to brush my teeth and as soon as the brush touched my tongue I blew chunks in the sink because I got a hit of the residual taste.

    Im all for small businesses but i know the effects of Heineken. I know I can have 6 pints a little bit to eat and I can function at 75% the next day. Occasionally operating at 75% for a day is fine. I dont want 2 pints and feeling like I was on a 10 day session ever. Not even if my goal the next day is to get from bed to couch to kitchen table, to couch, to bed.

    So as they say on dragons den "for that reason.....im out" on the whole craft beers gig.

    Those ‘Largers’ can be deadly alright.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,092 ✭✭✭Reputable Rog


    Smithwicks is coloured water

    A large bottle of Smithwicks is one of the drinks of the Gods, only beaten by Macardles.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,290 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    brisan wrote: »
    An increasing number of hip pubs not serving Guinness and Smithwicks these days

    Majority of pubs not selling Smithwicks are doing so as they have a semi-exclusive supply deal with Heineken Ireland that lets them sell Guinness but otherwise only Heineken Ireland products.

    So you'll see Heineken, Murphys, maybe Beamish, Murphys Red, Birra Moretti, Tiger, Fosters, Applemans Cider, Cute Hoor IPA etc but no Smithwicks, Carlsberg, Bulmers, Budweiser, or anything by any other provider at all be they a huge firm or the smallest craft supplier.

    Not even vaguely "hip"; just business.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,158 ✭✭✭BraveDonut


    saabsaab wrote: »

    "Americans" = 5 of them?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,242 ✭✭✭brisan


    L1011 wrote: »
    Majority of pubs not selling Smithwicks are doing so as they have a semi-exclusive supply deal with Heineken Ireland that lets them sell Guinness but otherwise only Heineken Ireland products.

    So you'll see Heineken, Murphys, maybe Beamish, Murphys Red, Birra Moretti, Tiger, Fosters, Applemans Cider, Cute Hoor IPA etc but no Smithwicks, Carlsberg, Bulmers, Budweiser, or anything by any other provider at all be they a huge firm or the smallest craft supplier.

    Not even vaguely "hip"; just business.
    I would reckon over 90% of pubs in Dublin sell Smithwicks and nearly 99% of pubs outside of Dublin sell it
    There is a reason its still being brewed 300 years later .
    I doubt if Many off the hip beers with a vanilla and chocolate aftertaste will last that long


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 359 ✭✭The Unbearables


    Drinking in general is for life's losers.

    Injecting heroin is where it's at.

    I shot up 8 times this morning alone.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,290 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    brisan wrote: »
    I would reckon over 90% of pubs in Dublin sell Smithwicks and nearly 99% of pubs outside of Dublin sell it
    There is a reason its still being brewed 300 years later .
    I doubt if Many off the hip beers with a vanilla and chocolate aftertaste will last that long

    You've completely missed the point there.

    The majority of pubs that don't sell it aren't doing it because of whatever you think "hip" is, they're doing it for business reasons only. Take a look at the taps - if its all Heineken Ireland, its that deal they've made.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,242 ✭✭✭brisan


    L1011 wrote: »
    You've completely missed the point there.

    The majority of pubs that don't sell it aren't doing it because of whatever you think "hip" is, they're doing it for business reasons only. Take a look at the taps - if its all Heineken Ireland, its that deal they've made.
    The business reasons why 99% of pubs sell Smithwicks is because after 300 years the demand is still there.
    If these craft brew pubs were allowed sell Smithwicks they would
    My local sells all the normal beers and a few craft beers.
    the vast majority of pubs in Dublin are the same
    The pubs that are tied to a brewery are obviously getting cheaper beer and not passing on the savings to customers.
    I would hate to see us going like England where the vast majority of pubs are tied houses


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,534 ✭✭✭Lewis_Benson


    brisan wrote: »
    The business reasons why 99% of pubs sell Smithwicks is because after 300 years the demand is still there.
    If these craft brew pubs were allowed sell Smithwicks they would
    My local sells all the normal beers and a few craft beers.
    the vast majority of pubs in Dublin are the same
    The pubs that are tied to a brewery are obviously getting cheaper beer and not passing on the savings to customers.
    I would hate to see us going like England where the vast majority of pubs are tied houses

    Craft pubs wouldn't serve Smithwicks, they will all have their own red ale on tap.

    I wouldn't mid us going like the UK, a bit of variety would be nice in more pubs.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,756 ✭✭✭saabsaab


    Article about not drinking Guinness in Cork. Love if anyone had any stats on it.









    https://lostbridgeblog.com/2017/08/30/why-you-shouldnt-drink-guinness-in-cork-ireland/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 354 ✭✭Moghead


    What makes a good pint of Smithwicks? Never tried it as I'd rarely see anyone drinking it in the pub.

    I presume you'd get a good one in Kilkenny even though its not brewed there anymore. Can Anyone recommend pubs in any Irish cities for a good pint of Smithwicks?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,621 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    Moghead wrote: »
    What makes a good pint of Smithwicks? Never tried it as I'd rarely see anyone drinking it in the pub.
    I presume you'd get a good one in Kilkenny even though its not brewed there anymore. Can Anyone recommend pubs in any Irish cities for a good pint of Smithwicks?

    Smithwicks, like some wine grapes, seems to travel well.
    I haven't heard of anyone complaining about the variability of it like Guinness.
    It's nice though if it comes in a Smithwicks glass.
    Don't forget to try the Smithwicks pale ale and blonde ale.

    Kilkenny ale now, I've had some lovely pints and some poor pints of it.
    Very few places still serving it on draught.

    I ordered a pint of Kilkenny once in Riga and I swear I was served Smithwicks.
    If it's creamy nitro like Guiness, it's Kilkenny.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,756 ✭✭✭saabsaab


    odyssey06 wrote: »
    Smithwicks, like some wine grapes, seems to travel well.
    I haven't heard of anyone complaining about the variability of it like Guinness.
    It's nice though if it comes in a Smithwicks glass.
    Don't forget to try the Smithwicks pale ale and blonde ale.

    Kilkenny ale now, I've had some lovely pints and some poor pints of it.
    Very few places still serving it on draught.

    I ordered a pint of Kilkenny once in Riga and I swear I was served Smithwicks.
    If it's creamy nitro like Guiness, it's Kilkenny.


    Smithwicks id its not flowing can be bad too. Had to send a few back


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,534 ✭✭✭Lewis_Benson


    saabsaab wrote: »
    Smithwicks id its not flowing can be bad too. Had to send a few back

    Same with any draught beer really, sitting in the lines too long.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,995 ✭✭✭Ipso


    Drinking in general is for life's losers.

    Injecting heroin is where it's at.

    I shot up 8 times this morning alone.

    Craft skag?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 409 ✭✭AlphabetCards


    A large bottle of Smithwicks is one of the drinks of the Gods, only beaten by Macardles.

    Can't drink them any more sadly, but fine drinks they are.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,092 ✭✭✭Reputable Rog


    odyssey06 wrote: »
    Smithwicks, like some wine grapes, seems to travel well.
    I haven't heard of anyone complaining about the variability of it like Guinness.
    It's nice though if it comes in a Smithwicks glass.
    Don't forget to try the Smithwicks pale ale and blonde ale.

    Kilkenny ale now, I've had some lovely pints and some poor pints of it.
    Very few places still serving it on draught.

    I ordered a pint of Kilkenny once in Riga and I swear I was served Smithwicks.
    If it's creamy nitro like Guiness, it's Kilkenny.

    Hugely popular in Canada.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,092 ✭✭✭Reputable Rog


    I used to love a pint of Bass. Ah that’s Bass!


  • Registered Users, Subscribers, Registered Users 2 Posts: 47,389 ✭✭✭✭Zaph


    odyssey06 wrote: »
    I ordered a pint of Kilkenny once in Riga and I swear I was served Smithwicks.
    If it's creamy nitro like Guiness, it's Kilkenny.

    You most likely were served Smithwicks. In France they sell Smithwicks as Kilkenny, because it's easier for the locals to pronouce Kilkenny. I'm guessing it's the same all over Europe.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,092 ✭✭✭Reputable Rog


    saabsaab wrote: »
    Article about not drinking Guinness in Cork. Love if anyone had any stats on it.




    https://adfx.ie/upload/files/1409818950_murphys_case_study_2014.pdf

    In 2012 - Murphy’s 23.3%, Beamish 32.4, Guinness 44.3%.
    From what I can see Guinness and Beamish still top 2, Murphy’s probably declined with a few of the craft stouts I suspect picking up a share.
    Cotton Ball is a lovely pint.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,511 ✭✭✭Purgative


    When I'm here, I like a Guinness lovely pint - unless I'm flying.

    In UK, I like Doom Bar, wouldn't touch the Guinness over there.

    Otherwise I'll drink the cheapest fizzy, chemical muck they have - Galahad from Aldi €8.79 for 12 cans.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,290 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    brisan wrote: »
    The business reasons why 99% of pubs sell Smithwicks is because after 300 years the demand is still there.
    If these craft brew pubs were allowed sell Smithwicks they would
    My local sells all the normal beers and a few craft beers.
    the vast majority of pubs in Dublin are the same
    The pubs that are tied to a brewery are obviously getting cheaper beer and not passing on the savings to customers.
    I would hate to see us going like England where the vast majority of pubs are tied houses

    Craft beer pubs are entirely allowed to sell Smithwicks - they just don't. Its perfectly normal pubs that have taken the Heineken deal, and a growing number of them.

    Smithwicks today is not even the same product as 30 years ago let alone 300.

    140 years ago, the Smithwicks brewery promoted their stouts (3 types) above their ales


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