Insufferable beer snobs.

JohnnyFlash

johnnyskeleton wrote: »

Bit declasse to eat oysters in a month without an "r" in it.

Doesn't matter these days, Johnny. All farmed, so you can ignore that adage.

jt69er

jackboy wrote: »

Yeah the pour thing is great marketing stuff.

Also the nitrogen gas in the pubs to cause the settling effect. People looking at it like it’s amazing. If Budweiser was put on the Guinness system it would settle just like a pint of Guinness.

No it would not.

jackboy

jt69er wrote: »

No it would not.

It would absolutely. The Guinness settling effect is down to the gas used only.

Ipso

jt69er

jackboy wrote: »

It would absolutely. The Guinness settling effect is down to the gas used only.

I guarantee you 100% Budweiser poured using Guinness gas would NOT settle like Guinness. It would pour exactly the same as normal.

Ipso

jackboy wrote: »

It would absolutely. The Guinness settling effect is down to the gas used only.

Flaked barley as an ingredient adds to the effect. But Nitrogen is the main one, as flaked barley is still used in the regular non nitro bottles.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/beerandbrewing.com/dictionary/amp/h0vhwTvbOu

Paddygreen

The hangovers off some of these overpriced concoctions are epic, and I mean after just five or six bottles, you could wake up the next day feeling like you drank five or six bottles of buckfast. Something is not right with beer that you can still taste two days later.

saabsaab

Have they changed the beer recently Last 12 months? It seems to give me upset stomach after a few which didn't happen at all before. Before anyone says it's just me i heard the same for a few others too.

PTH2009

Paddygreen wrote: »

The hangovers off some of these overpriced concoctions are epic, and I mean after just five or six bottles, you could wake up the next day feeling like you drank five or six bottles of buckfast. Something is not right with beer that you can still taste two days later.

The lads who drink them are off there face of trendy cannabis and a bit of snow

Yeah I agree there lethal, so hard to drink them all night

irishguitarlad

I'd be a fan of super bock, peroni, Alhambra and moretti, does that make me a beer snob?

PTH2009

irishguitarlad wrote: »

I'd be a fan of super bock, peroni, Alhambra and moretti, does that make me a beer snob?

Had a jug of peroni once

Let's just say my woman company at the time wasn't to keen after ha

hynesie08

PTH2009 wrote: »

The lads who drink them are off there face of trendy cannabis and a bit of snow

Yeah I agree there lethal, so hard to drink them all night

And the lads who don't like them have no taste buds from the skunk weed and Johnny blue and batter burgers.....

See how stereotypes work???

Paddygreen

hynesie08 wrote: »

And the lads who don't like them have no taste buds from the skunk weed and Johnny blue and batter burgers.....

See how stereotypes work???

Can anyone say they had eight or ten of a lot of these brews and say they were right as rain the next day? No such thing as a mild hangover that is gone by lunchtime with them. The tannins in them are off the scale, and as others have stated the brewing methods in a lot of cases are questionable.say what you like about the likes of Bud and Heineken, Guinness etc but you won’t feel like you have been poisoned the next day. Not saying they are all bad but a lot of them are pure petrol in my experience.

Paddygreen

The likes of Morretti etc don’t count, they are mainstream brews in their countries of origin. Morretti is the best selling beer in Italy.

Ipso

Craft beers tend to be stronger which will give a worse hangover. Any particular style you found to be tannic? It may have been hop bitterness. Supposedly tannins can come from water with a high ph.
Hazy IPAs/New England IPA is a style of beer that is very popular now, they use a type of yeast that leaves particulate behind to give that appearance (even hop matter can add to this). LI’m not crazy about them as they seem like a competition to add as many hops as possible to extract a fruity taste.

hynesie08

Paddygreen wrote: »

Can anyone say they had eight or ten of a lot of these brews and say they were right as rain the next day? No such thing as a mild hangover that is gone by lunchtime with them. The tannins in them are off the scale, and as others have stated the brewing methods in a lot of cases are questionable.say what you like about the likes of Bud and Heineken, Guinness etc but you won’t feel like you have been poisoned the next day. Not saying they are all bad but a lot of them are pure petrol in my experience.

I would mill porterhouse plain, galway hooker, chieftain ipa and a dozen other craft beers all night and it would not bother me the next day, so would most of the people I drink with. That's the truth. And the last time I was on bud for the night (it was free) I was in such a jock the next day that I considered putting my head down the toilet just to relieve the pain.......

Man with broke phone

They are just overpowered with chocolate a huge majority of the time. I like how they can give you a 6 or 7 per cent stout but guinness has these too.

Its alot of space in off licences as well. I'd say the vast majority of them will go bust.

Paddygreen

Ipso wrote: »

Craft beers tend to be stronger which will give a worse hangover. Any particular style you found to be tannic? It may have been hop bitterness. Supposedly tannins can come from water with a high ph.
Hazy IPAs/New England IPA is a style of beer that is very popular now, they use a type of yeast that leaves particulate behind to give that appearance (even hop matter can add to this). LI’m not crazy about them as they seem like a competition to add as many hops as possible to extract a fruity taste.

Eight Degrees, felt like I was going to go blind after it, could barely move and couldn’t eat for two days. I only had six. Yeah their may be a little extra alcohol compared to mainstream beers but nothing to account for that sort of hangover. Just too much in the way of tannins. They nearly all go ott with hops and all the other crap they add, I have heard of coffee beans being added to brews. Why the F would anyone want to do that.

Ipso

Coffee can complement some stouts, some of the malts used in stouts have a natural coffee flavour. I’ve had a few nice ones and a few not so nice. I’ve had a coffee IPA that was lovely, I was really surprised by.
I agree that there is an attitude within craft beer that more hops automatically means better. I liken it to cgi in films, it should be there to complement it not as a crutch.
Active yeast may also be an issue to some people.

jackboy

Paddygreen wrote: »

I have heard of coffee beans being added to brews. Why the F would anyone want to do that.

Yeah, some additives like that would only appeal to a small amount of people. I suppose if they find a market for it what’s the harm. Sounds awful to me but I can’t even understand why anyone would make coffee cake.

Tony EH

JohnnyFlash wrote: »

Why do beer snobs always want to push their overpriced muck on punters?

I bolded the important part.

This "craft beer" baloney is just another marketing gimmick for ****. It's "new" and "different", so therefore it's "better" and makes them feel more important...

...even when they're paying 7 euro for a bottle of Wizard's Piss that was brewed last week for 3 euro, in some poncy "establishment" that's laughing at ripping them off.

I fucking hate this bullshit craft beer crap. Primarily for one thing, it's made all the other beer producers up their prices too, because they've seen gobshites pay over the odds for craft crap.

The White Wolf

Paddygreen wrote: »

The hangovers off some of these overpriced concoctions are epic, and I mean after just five or six bottles, you could wake up the next day feeling like you drank five or six bottles of buckfast. Something is not right with beer that you can still taste two days later.

Can't say I've had enough of them to experience an induced hangover, mostly just trying one here or there out of politeness towards whichever person is insisting upon it.

In regards the snobbery, I never really noticed it. I drink cider and someone insisted I try McIvers (I think?). Charged between 7 or 8 euro and have to say, it tasted just like Strongbow and not the half decent stuff the Brits and Aussies have on tap.

Chances are if someone is a wanker over what you drink, they are....well....a wanker. I don't blame craft beer for that.

Paddygreen

Ipso wrote: »

Coffee can complement some stouts, some of the malts used in stouts have a natural coffee flavour. I’ve had a few nice ones and a few not so nice. I’ve had a coffee IPA that was lovely, I was really surprised by.
I agree that there is an attitude within craft beer that more hops automatically means better. I liken it to cgi in films, it should be there to complement it not as a crutch.
Active yeast may also be an issue to some people.

Turf is another one. Dunno if they add the turf to the brew or infuse it with turf smoke. I’m any case that kind of baloney comes across to me as a pure gimmick just for the sake of it, one that could potentially make you as sick as a small hospital . Sometimes less is more.

Tony EH

saabsaab wrote: »

As to what does Guinness tastes like - It depends.

Any Guinness drinkers I know say it changes from place to place and even pub to pub! They claim that one pub serves a 'bad' pint and another a good one!

How can this be?

This is largely bollocks as well.

I met a few people like that and it's always been gibberish. They'd say "it's a bad pint". You'd have a taste and there's nothing wrong with it.

People like that say that kind of crap because they think it gives them some sort of air of authority or something.

I've been drinking Guinness for years and can honestly say that I've had a bad pint of it on extremely few occasions.

Ipso

Paddygreen wrote: »

Turf is another one. Dunno if they add the turf to the brew or infuse it with turf smoke. I’m any case that kind of baloney comes across to me as a pure gimmick just for the sake of it, one that could potentially make you as sick as a small hospital . Sometimes less is more.

That would be smoked malt.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smoked_beer

Paddygreen

Tony EH wrote: »

This is largely bollocks as well.

I met a few people like that and it's always been gibberish. They'd say "it's a bad pint". You'd have a taste and there's nothing wrong with it.

People like that say that kind of crap because they think it gives them some sort of air of authority or something.

I've been drinking Guinness for years and can honestly say that I've had a bad pint of it on extremely few occasions.

Stale kegs, dirty lines, detergents in lines, not sinking the first pint. Bad pints do exist and will blow the hoop off you the next day to compliment the belting hangover.

Paddygreen

Ipso wrote: »

That would be smoked malt.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smoked_beer

Done right I suppose it would be grand. Not Seamus in the unit he rented in an industrial estate last year with a bale of briquettes and a blowtorch. Are there any inspections for brewers in Ireland, I know Germany has high brewing standards that have to be met.

Tony EH

Paddygreen wrote: »

Stale kegs, dirty lines, detergents in lines, not sinking the first pint. Bad pints do exist

That's a situation that you'll get very few times. Most places know they have to clean out their lines and ya know...do their job, otherwise they're going to lose customers very quick.

You can get bad pints of any drink. But the vast majority of the time, it's just someone talking bollocks to give themselves half assed airs and graces.

Paddygreen wrote: »

and will blow the hoop off you the next day to compliment the belting hangover.

The key is not drinking the bad pint. When you get a bad pint of Guinness or lager or whatever, because the boozer hasn't cleaned the lines properly, you''ll know it pretty fast.

I can count the number of times this his has happened to me on the fingers of one hand, though, and I'll be straight back up to the bar with the dirty pint.

Tony EH

Banana Republic. wrote: »

Is there any truth in the rumour you don’t get a hangover from craft beer as there is a lot less crap put into them?

No.

You get hangovers from putting alcohol into your system. Your body thinks it's a poison (it's correct).

You can drink the oldest, highest quality, meticulously brewed, German pilsner and still get a rough one the next day.

Strumms

irishguitarlad wrote: »

I'd be a fan of super bock, peroni, Alhambra and moretti, does that make me a beer snob?

I’m the same, I don’t remember having Alhambra but the rest of those you find a very consistent pint both draught and indeed of course bottles as expected. They got Peroni on draught in my local about 4/5 years ago. Reps were in a few nights throwing about free pints of the stuff like it was going out of fashion. When the dust settled it was 6.10 a pint.... Heineken 4.30 then 4.50... the Peeroni taps lasted maybe a year and then gone, nobody was buying the stuff. 36.60 vs 25.80 per night.. I’d be out 3 nights a week on average then.

I first discovered super bock on a trip to Lisbon where they were giving the stuff away, 3.10 a pint.