How will schools be able to go back in September?

downthemiddle · 31-07-2020 04:03PM

Alrigghtythen wrote: »

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You clearly are not aware that we are in the middle of a global pandemic. Many businesses are suffering as a result.

caveat emptor · 31-07-2020 04:07PM

This shows effect of opening one window versus one on each side of room etc.

https://twitter.com/DrEricDing/status/1289099932100710400?s=20

downthemiddle · 31-07-2020 04:11PM

BonsaiKitten wrote: »

I think it is still that way, in the main. The vast majority of parents I deal with are lovely people - sure you get the occasional headcase but that’s not unique to teaching.

I absolutely agree with you here and I would not like to ask parents for money for classroom cleaning supplies (but then I don’t buy my own, so it’s easy for me to say that). I’ve often thought that the INTO should run a campaign highlighting the realities of school underfunding. I think if people saw how little is provided for by the state they’d be up in arms.

Now before someone tells me to start it up, I have actually taken that to the INTO before and got nowhere.

Back in the day when people listened to Eddie Hobbs he went into a school for his tv programme. The purpose of the series was to show people how to manage their finances and to budget more efficiently. The only time he had to admit defeat was in the school. He couldn’t balance the budget.

Alrigghtythen · 31-07-2020 04:38PM

downthemiddle wrote: »

You clearly are not aware that we are in the middle of a global pandemic. Many businesses are suffering as a result.

I am fully aware of that. Many businesses are also thriving. I'm not sure of the relevance?

wirelessdude01 · 31-07-2020 04:45PM

For the primary teachers amongst us, any discussion regarding uniforms?

Boggles · 31-07-2020 04:47PM

wirelessdude01 wrote: »

For the primary teachers amongst us, any discussion regarding uniforms?

I think this one in green.

Iron on crest of course.

wirelessdude01 · 31-07-2020 04:48PM

downthemiddle wrote: »

Back in the day when people listened to Eddie Hobbs he went into a school for his tv programme. The purpose of the series was to show people how to manage their finances and to budget more efficiently. The only time he had to admit defeat was in the school. He couldn’t balance the budget.

https://www.askaboutmoney.com/threads/eddie-hobbs-the-junior-school.54629/

BonsaiKitten · 31-07-2020 05:06PM

wirelessdude01 wrote: »

For the primary teachers amongst us, any discussion regarding uniforms?

Nothing so far, it's not really high priority on our list of things to sort. I know some schools are saying no uniforms next year.

Thierry12 · 31-07-2020 05:10PM

Boggles wrote: »

I think this one in green.

Iron on crest of course.

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Something like this in better quality would surely give protection?

Bloody 2020, surely we can think of something to send kids to school safe?

downthemiddle · 31-07-2020 05:13PM

Alrigghtythen wrote: »

I am fully aware of that. Many businesses are also thriving. I'm not sure of the relevance?

Now you know how the majority feel reading your posts.

Alrigghtythen · 31-07-2020 05:38PM

downthemiddle wrote: »

Now you know how the majority feel reading your posts.

Ok. It seems You just posted this to get a dig.i dont mind. My work place is safe thanks to all my colleagues. We all got pay rises last week for our work through the pandemic.

lulublue22 · 31-07-2020 05:42PM

iamwhoiam wrote: »

While I fully agree about the teacher bashing and you are right to ignore , there are one or two who pop a parent bashing post every now and again . I tend to ignore that as its not beneficial either .

I must say thankfully when mine were young that parents and teacher really pulled together and it was lovely . Possibly it is not so now but in my own area I see quite a lot of support for teachers still

Totally and it’s frustrating from both perspectives. I genuinely find the ignore function works well for me. Everyone is entitled to their opinions and everyone has their own situation which colours their views.I find those posts which equate raising issues with wanting to keep the schools closed or thinking that SET covering classes is perfectly ok annoying and frustrating. It’s much easier for me to put those posts on ignore.

ETA In real life I find parent / teacher relationships very good. There is an understanding that everyone is working for the benefit of the child. It’s only on boards / in the media that I have cone across this teacher bashing.

downthemiddle · 31-07-2020 05:59PM

Alrigghtythen wrote: »

Ok. It seems You just posted this to get a dig.i dont mind. My work place is safe thanks to all my colleagues. We all got pay rises last week for our work through the pandemic.

Congratulations. I’m sure it’s well earned. Teachers get a payrise on October 1st. I’m sure you’ll be equally delighted for them.

lulublue22 · 31-07-2020 06:04PM

wirelessdude01 wrote: »

For the primary teachers amongst us, any discussion regarding uniforms?

Nothing so far but I’d hate to go down the no uniform route. My preference would be couple of non branded uniforms / tracksuits from dunnes that can be thrown in the wash. No fuss no stress no hassle.

Alrigghtythen · 31-07-2020 06:06PM

downthemiddle wrote: »

Congratulations. I’m sure it’s well earned. Teachers get a payrise on October 1st. I’m sure you’ll be equally delighted for them.

Good, maybe the cash will encourage some cooperation.

timmy_mallet · 31-07-2020 06:07PM

wirelessdude01 wrote: »

For the primary teachers amongst us, any discussion regarding uniforms?

Is this rumour still going? Hats, bags, scarfs, gloves, coats, all new each day as well, or wha'?

Alrigghtythen · 31-07-2020 06:08PM

timmy_mallet wrote: »

Is this rumour still going? Hats, bags, scarfs, gloves, coats, all new each day as well, or wha'?

The department has stated that it's up to the bom in individual schools to decide uniform policy.

wirelessdude01 · 31-07-2020 06:09PM

timmy_mallet wrote: »

Is this rumour still going? Hats, bags, scarfs, gloves, coats, all new each day as well, or wha'?

Just asking had it been discussed within school staff. No need to be such an antagonist. Really adds nothing to anything.

downthemiddle · 31-07-2020 06:12PM

Alrigghtythen wrote: »

Good, maybe the cash will encourage some cooperation.

Who do you want them to cooperate with?
Who have they not cooperated with?

khalessi · 31-07-2020 06:17PM

downthemiddle wrote: »

Congratulations. I’m sure it’s well earned. Teachers get a payrise on October 1st. I’m sure you’ll be equally delighted for them.

Correction not a pay rise, it is pay restoration:D

deiseindublin · 31-07-2020 06:26PM

downthemiddle wrote: »

Back in the day when people listened to Eddie Hobbs he went into a school for his tv programme. The purpose of the series was to show people how to manage their finances and to budget more efficiently. The only time he had to admit defeat was in the school. He couldn’t balance the budget.

I don't remember that one? Wonder is it still online anywhere?

combat14 · 31-07-2020 06:35PM

french cases up 54% in one week with significant proportion in the 20-30 age category .. heatwave up to 41% this week with people being asked to continue wearing their masks ..

least covid numbers here were only 85 yesterday and 38 today so not too bad we might be ok if they keep coming down like that

lulublue22 · 31-07-2020 06:42PM

combat14 wrote: »

french cases up 54% in one week with significant proportion in the 20-30 age category .. heatwave up to 41% this week with people being asked to continue wearing their masks ..

least covid numbers here were only 85 yesterday and 38 today so not too bad we might be ok if they keep coming down like that

It seems not to be dependent on weather at all ! ie not seasonal. There seems to be an uptick in cases across the world. It seems from a few health briefings that the age profile has changed. This ties in with the WHO’s piece re young people driving it at the moment and it’s something I’ve noticed been mentioned several times re USA. ( though given their response I wasn’t taking much notice of the fact in relation to young people. )

coffeyt · 31-07-2020 07:24PM

I've seen some pubs using disinfecting fogger machines for cleaning.
Would these be an option for schools to be used daily before and after class?
Would they be suitable for use on smaller toys in the classroom especially?
Does anyone have any feedback on them?

grind gremlin · 31-07-2020 07:39PM

coffeyt wrote: »

I've seen some pubs using disinfecting fogger machines for cleaning.
Would these be an option for schools to be used daily before and after class?
Would they be suitable for use on smaller toys in the classroom especially?
Does anyone have any feedback on them?

In younger classes, the issue is kids coughing, sneezing, putting objects in their mouth, spitting when the speak excitedly or shout out answer, not understanding personal space and being in each other’s faces. The biggest risk is the children’s behaviour. Giving everything a good scrub when they leave is definitely good practice but I fear it won’t be enough if children are packed into classes as they always have been.

coffeyt · 31-07-2020 07:42PM

grind gremlin wrote: »

In younger classes, the issue is kids coughing, sneezing, putting objects in their mouth, spitting when the speak excitedly or shout out answer, not understanding personal space and being in each other’s faces. The biggest risk is the children’s behaviour. Giving everything a good scrub when they leave is definitely good practice but I fear it won’t be enough if children are packed in a lot classes as they always have been.

I appreciate that behaviour is going to be an issue but it was an idea I was floating as there were discussion on previous posts related to cleaning and was wondering if the foggers would be an option to make sure all nooks and crannies were disinfected?

grind gremlin · 31-07-2020 07:47PM

coffeyt wrote: »

I appreciate that behaviour is going to be an issue but it was an idea I was floating as there were discussion on previous posts related to cleaning and was wondering if the foggers would be an option to make sure all nooks and crannies were disinfected?

It would definitely be a good idea. Anything that helps us keep our classrooms clean is definitely welcomed.
I wonder how long each cycle takes. It would be great if it could be run at intervals throughout the day while children went outside. Keeping them in class all day is asking for trouble.

coffeyt · 31-07-2020 07:49PM

grind gremlin wrote: »

It would definitely be a good idea. Anything that helps us keep our classrooms clean is definitely welcomed.
I wonder how long each cycle takes. It would be great if it could be run at intervals throughout the day while children went outside. Keeping them in class all day is asking for trouble.

I know friend of one has gotten a large industrial one for his pub but think it's only used when the pub is empty. You can get small hand held one's which might be an option for younger children's toys etc.

Alrigghtythen · 31-07-2020 07:49PM

coffeyt wrote: »

I appreciate that behaviour is going to be an issue but it was an idea I was floating as there were discussion on previous posts related to cleaning and was wondering if the foggers would be an option to make sure all nooks and crannies were disinfected?

They are certainly being used successfully in a lot of places. What are the currently opened preschools doing with toys? They have had no outbreaks among the children. Items put in mouth could be put through the dishwasher aswell?

coffeyt · 31-07-2020 07:54PM

Alrigghtythen wrote: »

They are certainly being used successfully in a lot of places. What are the currently opened preschools doing with toys? They have had no outbreaks among the children. Items put in mouth could be put through the dishwasher aswell?

Not sure a lot of schools would have a dishwasher but I think the fogger should definitely be looked at, as far as I know they can do a decent room in a couple of mins.

As I said I'm not up to date on them but might be something for teachers to look into with their own BOM and principals!

How will schools be able to go back in September?

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