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Covid 19 Part XX-26,644 in ROI (1,772 deaths) 6,064 in NI (556 deaths) (08/08)Read OP

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  • #2972
    10000maniacs
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,643 ✭✭✭10000maniacs


    peasant wrote: »
    Just on a side note, Germany had similar (if bigger) problems with meat factories and abattoirs as well.

    In consequence Germany now has legislated that only permanent workers may work in meat factories...no more sub-contractor shenannigans.

    We should push for the same thing here.
    Those Keelings fruit pickers breaking lockdown rules was wrong too.
    We are either serious about stopping this virus or we are not. Simples.


  • #2973
    Plumbthedepths
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    owlbethere wrote: »
    Will there be any social distancing happening in schools?

    Maybe school can be 1 day a week. Maybe take a class of 30 pupils in primary school as an example, maybe they can go by the role book and have the first 6 students in on Monday, and 6 in on Tuesday and 6 in on Wednesday and so on. Maybe a camera can be put into classrooms pointing at the teachers desk and blackboard and many lessons can be online too for the rest of students at home.

    Thankfully neither you or anyone with your mindset is drafting the guidelines.


  • #2974
    bettyoleary
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 400 ✭✭bettyoleary


    peasant wrote: »
    Just on a side note, Germany had similar (if bigger) problems with meat factories and abattoirs as well.

    In consequence Germany now has legislated that only permanent workers may work in meat factories...no more sub-contractor shenannigans.

    We should push for the same thing here.
    Germany pushed and pushed and pushed for travel right from the outset of this pandemic. They were forcing their way into Spain when we and everyone else were at the top of a curve demanding access to their holiday homes. They were forced home. Angela Merkal demanded countries opened up their borders months ago, And now we see a huge surge in cases in Spain and Germany but who will loose out there. Ireland have just allowed travel from Europe and USA . But, the difference is Germany has the money to deal with the surge and the health care system to proetct. We dont.


  • #2975
    s1ippy
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,980 ✭✭✭s1ippy


    stephenjmcd wrote: »
    CMO just said the complete opposite regarding schools.

    He literally just said watch the next few days and he would hope tomorrow and Saturday show reduced numbers back in line with the average up to today.

    Its quite obvious they've been tracing and testing these clusters for at least a week now.
    He said they're waiting for guidance from the ECDC, who will require that social distancing take place (not planned for in current model) and we will have to either cut class sizes or install plastic screens around desks, requiring staff to wear masks. If they're looking to schools around the world that have opened, they'll see that they're absolute hotbeds for outbreaks to occur and any advice they give will be to reduce risks of transmission. The current plans are not adequate to reduce the risk of transmission and so will have to be comprehensively reviewed. I know this for a fact because I'm from the future. Jk, not from the future, I'm clearly from the past but have an actual functioning brain and can see from the experience in other countries what is required.


  • #2976
    lawrencesummers
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,867 ✭✭✭lawrencesummers


    schmoo2k wrote: »
    What's the point if there aren't any cocktail sausages?


    I’d suffer Quorn for a few scoops.


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  • #2977
    ChelseaRentBoy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 473 ✭✭ChelseaRentBoy


    10000maniacs wrote: »
    85 cases. FFS
    What are you doing lads? We need to go back to stage one and enforce quarantine at the airports.
    Every weekend there was a street party in Ringsend for months. Put a stop to similar parties. Close pubs and cafe's too.

    House parties left, right and centre in a massive issue. People with zero sense of social responsibility.

    Don't mind what the government is saying we are headed back to a lockdown sooner rather than later.


  • #2978
    lawrencesummers
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,867 ✭✭✭lawrencesummers


    10000maniacs wrote: »
    85 cases. FFS
    What are you doing lads? We need to go back to stage one and enforce quarantine at the airports.
    Every weekend there was a street party in Ringsend for months. Put a stop to similar parties. Close pubs and cafe's too.

    How many cases have there been in Ringsend? Because street parties are not the bus seat issue we have. It’s a meat factory that have the numbers high today.


  • #2979
    niallo27
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,139 ✭✭✭✭niallo27


    boetstark wrote: »
    She didn't feel comfortable going out and about in kilkee as she normally would.
    If you were to stay in and cook might as well do it at home i guess

    Why not a bottle of wine and a takeaway. She could only have had 2 hours in a pub anyway. If she is afraid of walking on the beach and getting it then she should lock herself up now for the next 2 years.


  • #2980
    lawrencesummers
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,867 ✭✭✭lawrencesummers


    peasant wrote: »
    Just on a side note, Germany had similar (if bigger) problems with meat factories and abattoirs as well.

    In consequence Germany now has legislated that only permanent workers may work in meat factories...no more sub-contractor shenannigans.

    We should push for the same thing here.

    Our government wouldn’t dare do anything to affect the profitability of The meat industry. That would only make one person angry.


  • #2981
    LiquidZeb
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,254 ✭✭✭LiquidZeb


    lawrencesummers wrote: »
    How many cases have there been in Ringsend? Because street parties are not the bus seat issue we have. It’s a meat factory that have the numbers high today.

    Don't you know? Meat factories are the go to party venues. Not a single reference was made to parties but that hasn't stopped more people projecting their personal bugbears onto the 85 cases.


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  • #2982
    LiquidZeb
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,254 ✭✭✭LiquidZeb


    ChelseaRentBoy wrote: »
    House parties left, right and centre in a massive issue. People with zero sense of social responsibility.

    Don't mind what the government is saying we are headed back to a lockdown sooner rather than later.

    Don't listen to the government, listen to me some randomer on the internet.


  • #2983
    road_high
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,888 ✭✭✭✭road_high


    Boggles wrote: »
    You can have a wedding, but it has to be under 50 people - there is give and take in that.

    Perfect excuse to trim the nonsense of who you have to invite to silly number weddings.

    Should be looked at as a positive IMO.

    Yes I would take that as a positive outcome of Covid. Forever and a day! Absolutely despise big Mcweddings and they'd been back with a gusto of late.
    Cousin was going to have 300 plus at one in June. Huge loss for hotels and the weddign industry. It must be absolutely massive as they're up there with houses and cars as sheer scale of expense.


  • #2984
    10000maniacs
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,643 ✭✭✭10000maniacs


    lawrencesummers wrote: »
    How many cases have there been in Ringsend? Because street parties are not the bus seat issue we have. It’s a meat factory that have the numbers high today.

    You don't get it do you?
    All it takes is for example one meat factory worker from Kildare to join the Ringsend party or any street party and wooosh, half of the community have it.


  • #2985
    stephenjmcd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,459 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    s1ippy wrote: »
    He said they're waiting for guidance from the ECDC, who will require that social distancing take place (not planned for in current model) and we will have to either cut class sizes or install plastic screens around desks, requiring staff to wear masks. If they're looking to schools around the world that have opened, they'll see that they're absolute hotbeds for outbreaks to occur and any advice they give will be to reduce risks of transmission. The current plans are not adequate to reduce the risk of transmission and so will have to be comprehensively reviewed. I know this for a fact because I'm from the future. Jk, not from the future, I'm clearly from the past but have an actual functioning brain and can see from the experience in other countries what is required.

    He said absolutely nothing of the sort regarding current plans not being adequate, cutting class sizes or installing screens around desks, that may well be your opinion but Dr Glynn said nothing of the sort. He said there is no 0 risk, did he expect cases in schools? Yes quite possibly.

    The ECDC report due out soon is with regards to transmission of the virus from children not that the ECDC is giving them guidance on how to reopen schools.

    He said in schools the main measures in school were distancing and hand washing, the later being particularly important in schools.

    Feel free to rewatch the press conference, its disuccsed from 15 minutes in, its nothing like you've portrayed above


  • #2986
    ACitizenErased
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,767 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    JRant wrote: »
    Citizen is one of the few realistic posters on this thread. Never goes OTT either way and always provides good data.
    Santy2015 wrote: »
    I don’t like seeing negativity and Citizen is right. Even if there is some negative news he’ll try and get the best out it. It’s probably stopping him and few, me included from going mad due to all the fear mongering going on by our media!!
    Thanks lads. I deal in numbers, not fear.


  • #2987
    road_high
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,888 ✭✭✭✭road_high


    ChelseaRentBoy wrote: »
    House parties left, right and centre in a massive issue. People with zero sense of social responsibility.

    Don't mind what the government is saying we are headed back to a lockdown sooner rather than later.

    Sorry to rain on your parade but there's absolutely no way this is happening again- for one simple reason that I'm going to highlight for you- we cannot afford to...
    They'd be expected to pay out the €350 per week crack indefinitely which we cannot afford (see desperation to reduce the figures still on it already).
    Clusters, testing and local measures are where it's at. Not lazy idiots sitting at home watching Netflix #stayingsafe


  • #2988
    road_high
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,888 ✭✭✭✭road_high


    GeorgeBailey wrote: »
    Having worked at my first wedding since March at the weekend I completely agree. Less than 50 people. Much more intimate and personal. Even the couple said they wouldn't change a thing. Unfortunately (for me anyway) not a lot of couples see the appeal.

    That might have to re-think their "dream day". That restriction is not going to change for a while I'd think. 50 is a nice intimate figure and for most of us would cover immediate family. Everyone else is fckin delighted not to be forced into going.


  • #2989
    ACitizenErased
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,767 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    Been reading a lot into the department of education's plan for re-opening schools and a lot of it is mumbo-jumbo. I believe they're going to open on time but I'm not sure if it's going to work.


  • #2990
    podgeandrodge
    Site Banned Posts: 5,975 ✭✭✭podgeandrodge


    schmoo2k wrote: »
    There is going to be a huge difference between a pub V a pub setup to be a "restaurant"...

    Food?


  • #2991
    froog
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,784 ✭✭✭froog


    ACitizenErased wrote: »
    It's a disgrace to be honest that some people refuse to appreciate the work that is going on behind the scenes to handle these outbreaks. You're dead right that we should be thankful.

    we've done great work genuinely. but there is an uptick and a cautious approach is needed. mocking and trolling people who are mostly worried about older or at risk relatives is the real disgrace. those people should be ashamed of themselves.


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  • #2992
    Man Vs ManUre
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,688 ✭✭✭Man Vs ManUre


    How many cats in today’s numbers?? My poor moggy is here petrified, he won’t even go out fighting now at night.


  • #2993
    boetstark
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,020 ✭✭✭boetstark


    niallo27 wrote: »
    Why not a bottle of wine and a takeaway. She could only have had 2 hours in a pub anyway. If she is afraid of walking on the beach and getting it then she should lock herself up now for the next 2 years.

    Look no point interrogating me on this. She is a friend of my wife's. She has been going there for years and she said what she said.
    I have close friends who went and posted pics on Facebook. It seems people treated it as if because it was a stay cation all rules went out the window. Just saying I'm not surprised spike in limerick / clare numbers.


  • #2994
    road_high
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,888 ✭✭✭✭road_high


    froog wrote: »
    we've done great work genuinely. but there is an uptick and a cautious approach is needed. mocking and trolling people who are mostly worried about older or at risk relatives is the real disgrace. those people should be ashamed of themselves.

    No one is trolling them. If you feel that way then you have to take personal responsibility and not put them at risk. That means you too avoiding contact with people etc.


  • #2995
    road_high
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,888 ✭✭✭✭road_high


    niallo27 wrote: »
    Why didn't they just go back to the house they owned there instead of going home.

    These people never cease to amaze me.."worried" by crowds etc but yet they're there in the thick of it reporting back how awful and traumatic it all is :rolleyes:
    Like as if they should have priority access and spacing....


  • #2996
    wadacrack
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,172 ✭✭✭wadacrack


    MOR316 wrote: »
    So it's dangerous to let it run wild but also dangerous to suppress it? Is that what you're saying :confused:

    The current numbers are not sustainable. It will grow. You need essentially a Zero Covid approach.


  • #2997
    Quantum Erasure
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,704 ✭✭✭Quantum Erasure


    That's it!! I'm never eating dog food again.

    #BoycottIrishDogFoods


  • #2998
    Atlantic Dawn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,415 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    GDY151


    George Lee on RTE1 News now, he's a proper bloody doom merchant.


  • #2999
    Ficheall
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,038 ✭✭✭Ficheall


    Did they give any indication of how useful the app was in tracing the new clusters?


  • #3000
    Random sample
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,017 ✭✭✭Random sample


    ACitizenErased wrote: »
    Been reading a lot into the department of education's plan for re-opening schools and a lot of it is mumbo-jumbo. I believe they're going to open on time but I'm not sure if it's going to work.

    It seems to be based on a disease that lives on surfaces rather than an airborne infection.

    And very much leaves the onus on individual schools to sort things out aswell, which is fine in a way, as all schools are different, but some principals will interpret things differently to others, which will lead to problems.


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  • #3001
    stephenjmcd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,459 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    Ficheall wrote: »
    Did they give any indication of how useful the app was in tracing the new clusters?

    Nope said they didn't have that information but as of yestersday it was reported it had identified over 100 close contacts of confirmed cases


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