Covid 19 Part XX-26,644 in ROI (1,772 deaths) 6,064 in NI (556 deaths) (08/08)Read OP

Santy2015 · 30-07-2020 07:54PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

Can you PM me if you have a problem with me? As far as I know this thread isn't about me.

I don’t like seeing negativity and Citizen is right. Even if there is some negative news he’ll try and get the best out it. It’s probably stopping him and few, me included from going mad due to all the fear mongering going on by our media!!

Boggles · 30-07-2020 07:55PM

GeorgeBailey wrote: »

I know we're meant to be nothing but snarky about weddings on boards but did anyone happen to catch what the CMO said about them? Asking for someone, i.e me, who depends on weddings to pay the bills.

He feels sorry for people, but he didn't sound optimistic about them.

is_that_so · 30-07-2020 07:55PM

Arghus wrote: »

That's true, but this day last week Glynn said he was "uncertain but optimistic"

He got shunted into saying something by George Lee! All about tomorrow's level and those in the next week or so.

podgeandrodge · 30-07-2020 07:58PM

GeorgeBailey wrote: »

I know we're meant to be nothing but snarky about weddings on boards but did anyone happen to catch what the CMO said about them? Asking for someone, i.e me, who depends on weddings to pay the bills.

I have a bit of sympathy for this Zara one. She probably represents a number of people who have plans either already ruined or about to be in some way. It's not something that bothers most of us, it being a one off event for most, but there are probably a good few people out there hoping for some info or hope. And people in the industry as above poster who could do with some good news.

is_that_so · 30-07-2020 07:59PM

GeorgeBailey wrote: »

I know we're meant to be nothing but snarky about weddings on boards but did anyone happen to catch what the CMO said about them? Asking for someone, i.e me, who depends on weddings to pay the bills.

People are more snarky about Zara King constantly asking about them! I think what he said was his way of trying to be non-committal on what will/might happen on August 10. Holohan was always very much in control around that kind of language.

Gael23 · 30-07-2020 07:59PM

It appears that all these cases are somewhat linked which means that although it’s most unwelcome it’s not a huge cause for panic

seanb85 · 30-07-2020 07:59PM

Utopia Parkway wrote: »

In this case it looks like a group working in the same factory and many of them probably living together in the same house and more than likely sharing the same transport from their homes to the factory.

If the factory shut last Friday, we probably won't see the full extent of the cluster for a few weeks. It also remains to be seen if community transmission will increase in surrounding areas, I'm sure many of the workers have been out and about outside their workplace/home, may have used public transport, visited pubs, shops, gyms etc.

niallo27 · 30-07-2020 07:59PM

boetstark wrote: »

Not a bit surprised by todays figures. I spoke with an acquaintance who literally ran out of kilkee last week. She owns a house there and went to the golf club , had lunch and went straight home to limerick.
No social distancing , very few wearing masks and place packed with people.
18 cases today between limerick and Clare , I expect more.
Its annoying that the staycationers are vilifying people who go to a green list country. Cheaper and safer

Why didn't they just go back to the house they owned there instead of going home.

Boggles · 30-07-2020 08:01PM

You can have a wedding, but it has to be under 50 people - there is give and take in that.

Perfect excuse to trim the nonsense of who you have to invite to silly number weddings.

Should be looked at as a positive IMO.

What Username Guidelines · 30-07-2020 08:01PM

boetstark wrote: »

Not a bit surprised by todays figures. I spoke with an acquaintance who literally ran out of kilkee last week. She owns a house there and went to the golf club , had lunch and went straight home to limerick.
No social distancing , very few wearing masks and place packed with people.
18 cases today between limerick and Clare , I expect more.
Its annoying that the staycationers are vilifying people who go to a green list country. Cheaper and safer

I spent a week in Waterford a couple of weeks back and was 99% delighted with what I saw, it’s no wonder they’ve had such few cases. Masks, decent layouts of shops, hand sanitizers, etc. We did go into one cafe for coffee and it was a bit tight and quite busy, but overall impressive.

owlbethere · 30-07-2020 08:02PM

Widdensushi wrote: »

Lovely post, if there were more people like you we would be??????

I'm still playing it safe and limiting going out into public establishments and crowds. I can get online grocery slots very easily now so I don't need to go shopping anymore. So chances of any incident would probably be very slim. I'm certainly not going out of my way to find situations where people might be breaking the guidelines in the hope of compo. If I get sick and I believe negligence happened somewhere, I will go down the compo route.

Boggles · 30-07-2020 08:02PM

Gael23 wrote: »

It appears that all these cases are somewhat linked which means that although it’s most unwelcome it’s not a huge cause for panic

Really how is 11 cases in Clare linked to a dog meat factory in Kildare?

Did they confirm that?

owlbethere · 30-07-2020 08:03PM

Boggles wrote: »

You can have a wedding, but it has to be under 50 people - there is give and take in that.

Perfect excuse to trim the nonsense of who you have to invite to silly number weddings.

Should be looked at as a positive IMO.

It would be a fantastic time to get married. There was too much fuss around weddings here in Ireland.

Boggles · 30-07-2020 08:04PM

owlbethere wrote: »

It would be a fantastic time to get married. There was too much fuss around weddings here in Ireland.

Absolutely. They should bring it down to 30.

I was at wedding last year with 275 people.

He had 3 friends, I was one of them and she was far from Ms. Popular.

SEPT 23 1989 · 30-07-2020 08:04PM

Boggles wrote: »

You can have a wedding, but it has to be under 50 people - there is give and take in that.

Perfect excuse to trim the nonsense of who you have to invite to silly number weddings.

Should be looked at as a positive IMO.

It should be welcomed by couples getting married

lawrencesummers · 30-07-2020 08:07PM

I hope the employees of these meat factories that are consistently the epicenter of outbreaks take big legal cases against their employers and get well compensated for the obvious lack of controls their employers have implemented. Lots of workplaces continued through the lockdown and only meat factories have consistently allowed outbreaks to occur.

If it wasn’t for meat factories we could all be heading out for few pints tonight.

schmoo2k · 30-07-2020 08:08PM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

You'd question the work practices of the factory for this outbreak to occur.

Pubs are already open as restaurants, only difference would be no food.

There is going to be a huge difference between a pub V a pub setup to be a "restaurant"...

Widdensushi · 30-07-2020 08:08PM

owlbethere wrote: »

I'm still playing it safe and limiting going out into public establishments and crowds. I can get online grocery slots very easily now so I don't need to go shopping anymore. So chances of any incident would probably be very slim. I'm certainly not going out of my way to find situations where people might be breaking the guidelines in the hope of compo. If I get sick and I believe negligence happened somewhere, I will go down the compo route.

Safer just lock the door and stay home

ChelseaRentBoy · 30-07-2020 08:09PM

lawrencesummers wrote: »

I hope the employees of these meat factories that are consistently the epicenter of outbreaks take big legal cases against their employers and get well compensated for the obvious lack of controls their employers have implemented. Lots of workplaces continued through the lockdown and only meat factories have consistently allowed outbreaks to occur.

If it wasn’t for meat factories we could all be heading out for few pints tonight.

Or eating lettuce for dinner.

stephenjmcd · 30-07-2020 08:10PM

lawrencesummers wrote: »

If it wasn’t for meat factories we could all be heading out for few pints tonight.

Sat here having one now

Arghus · 30-07-2020 08:11PM

What Username Guidelines wrote: »

Have to say I’m leaving more negative on this news, great news they’re identifiable and they’re confident they can trace the majority of cases, but if they missed a couple or didn’t catch them for a few days, it’s 85 potential chances to flare up in private households where we know it likes to spread.

Thinking it through as a process, it would have taken a couple of cases to notice the cluster, which doesn’t happen in a matter of hours.

It’s not so much that this is gonna cause massive spread, but it underscores the vigilance needed if we can plod along at 20 cases per day and then suddenly see a rise. Even if we report single digits tomorrow, it shows potential.

I’m also confused by the confidence some posters have at where this spreads and doesn’t spread. No cases linked to pubs =\= it doesn’t spread there. Any of those 85 could have spread it easily in a pub. It likely takes time for this things to simmer, like the milk analogy posted earlier.

The 9 deaths last week explained as late reporting is an understandable explanation for sudden jump.

85 cases explained as clusters is better than 85 random cases, but I don’t think you can view it as a positive explanation.

I agree with a lot of this. Maybe I wouldn't feel quite as negative, I'd lean a bit more towards what Dr. Glynn was saying about being concerned - lol, last time I'll mention that word here tonight.

Just the part in bold: Yeah people seem very confident about that fact. But just because they don't know of any cases, doesn't mean there hasn't been any and there can't be any in the future.

There's definitely been cases in supermarkets amongst staff. Where I work people who were out awaiting tests or who have may have been positive were just not talked about and everything was kept very, very hush hush. Pure we can neither confirm or deny shyte.It wasn't in the businesse's interest to let it be known, even to it's own staff, whether there'd been cases or not. It was as dodge as fck - and they sure as hell weren't going to confirm it in public. So when I read about supermarket chains saying they've no confirmed cases amongst staff, I'm pretty damn sceptical about that.

GeorgeBailey · 30-07-2020 08:12PM

Boggles wrote: »

You can have a wedding, but it has to be under 50 people - there is give and take in that.

Perfect excuse to trim the nonsense of who you have to invite to silly number weddings.

Should be looked at as a positive IMO.

Having worked at my first wedding since March at the weekend I completely agree. Less than 50 people. Much more intimate and personal. Even the couple said they wouldn't change a thing. Unfortunately (for me anyway) not a lot of couples see the appeal.

Gael23 · 30-07-2020 08:14PM

Boggles wrote: »

Really how is 11 cases in Clare linked to a dog meat factory in Kildare?

Did they confirm that?

There not but the 11 cases in Clare are linked together. Not just 11 people randomly catching it

10000maniacs · 30-07-2020 08:14PM

85 cases. FFS
What are you doing lads? We need to go back to stage one and enforce quarantine at the airports.
Every weekend there was a street party in Ringsend for months. Put a stop to similar parties. Close pubs and cafe's too.

boetstark · 30-07-2020 08:14PM

niallo27 wrote: »

Why didn't they just go back to the house they owned there instead of going home.

She didn't feel comfortable going out and about in kilkee as she normally would.
If you were to stay in and cook might as well do it at home i guess

peasant · 30-07-2020 08:16PM

lawrencesummers wrote: »

I hope the employees of these meat factories that are consistently the epicenter of outbreaks take big legal cases against their employers and get well compensated for the obvious lack of controls their employers have implemented. Lots of workplaces continued through the lockdown and only meat factories have consistently allowed outbreaks to occur.

If it wasn’t for meat factories we could all be heading out for few pints tonight.

Just on a side note, Germany had similar (if bigger) problems with meat factories and abattoirs as well.

In consequence Germany now has legislated that only permanent workers may work in meat factories...no more sub-contractor shenannigans.

We should push for the same thing here.

schmoo2k · 30-07-2020 08:18PM

seanb85 wrote: »

If the factory shut last Friday, we probably won't see the full extent of the cluster for a few weeks. It also remains to be seen if community transmission will increase in surrounding areas, I'm sure many of the workers have been out and about outside their workplace/home, may have used public transport, visited pubs, shops, gyms etc.

While true - they do seem to have got a handle on it very quickly which will have really helped.

bluelamp · 30-07-2020 08:18PM

Utopia Parkway wrote: »

In this case it looks like a group working in the same factory and many of them probably living together in the same house and more than likely sharing the same transport from their homes to the factory.

They were avoiding being clear about the actual situation: it seems the meat factory in naas are employing the asylum seekers from the direct provision centres in Newbridge and Laoise.

Terrible for those people... never stood a chance, two of the riskiest scenarios.

I'd imagine that's the reason press release is saying to avoid a knee jerk reaction just yet, asylum seekers are fairly insulated from community.

normanoffside · 30-07-2020 08:21PM

lawrencesummers wrote: »

I hope the employees of these meat factories that are consistently the epicenter of outbreaks take big legal cases against their employers and get well compensated for the obvious lack of controls their employers have implemented. Lots of workplaces continued through the lockdown and only meat factories have consistently allowed outbreaks to occur.

It doesn't look like any of them are badly affected given that Hospital numbers are down to 5.
Maybe if one of them got really sick they might have a case

schmoo2k · 30-07-2020 08:21PM

lawrencesummers wrote: »

I hope the employees of these meat factories that are consistently the epicenter of outbreaks take big legal cases against their employers and get well compensated for the obvious lack of controls their employers have implemented. Lots of workplaces continued through the lockdown and only meat factories have consistently allowed outbreaks to occur.

If it wasn’t for meat factories we could all be heading out for few pints tonight.

What's the point if there aren't any cocktail sausages?

Covid 19 Part XX-26,644 in ROI (1,772 deaths) 6,064 in NI (556 deaths) (08/08)Read OP

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