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Covid 19 Part XX-26,644 in ROI (1,772 deaths) 6,064 in NI (556 deaths) (08/08)Read OP

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  • #2912
    ShineOn7
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,550 ✭✭✭ShineOn7


    Laura on Reddit Ireland's summary

    • New cases: 85
    • Total cases: 26,027
    • New deaths: 1
    • Denotified deaths: 2
    • Total deaths: 1,743

    Breakdown of cases today
    • Male: 53
    • Female: 32
    • Age: 68% are under 45 years of age
    • Kildare: 26
    • Dublin: 18
    • Clare: 11
    • Laois: 9
    • Limerick: 7
    • Meath: 4
    • Remainder spread across 7 different counties
    • 33 cases identified as they were close contacts of a confirmed case (39%)
    • 43 (42?) cases associated with outbreaks (50%)
    Cases as of midnight Tuesday 28th July
    • Total cases: 25,942 (+14)
    • Hospitalised: 3,350 (+1)
    • ICU: 438 (+0)
    • Healthcare workers: 8,406 (+5)
    • Clusters: 2,303 (+12)
    • Cases associated with clusters: 13,944 (+54)
    • Dublin: +1
    • Kildare: +2
    • Kilkenny: +1
    • Laois: +2
    • Limerick: +1
    • Sligo: +1
    • Westmeath: +1


  • #2913
    MOR316
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,255 ✭✭✭MOR316


    Boggles wrote: »
    Really?

    To me, they looked like a pair of lads who just got gut punched before they came out.

    In fairness, they always look like that.

    They look like lads who know the school bully is about to slap


  • #2914
    petes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,382 ✭✭✭petes


    Boggles wrote: »
    Really?

    To me, they looked like a pair of lads who just got gut punched before they came out.

    Also why does George Lee always sound like he has just heard about the global pandemic 5 minutes before he starts asking questions?

    Also 10 times more questions about pubs than schools.

    :rolleyes:

    If the poster had said they looked panicked you would have said they looked calm.


  • #2915
    MOR316
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,255 ✭✭✭MOR316


    Arghus wrote: »
    He did say positive things in the press conference, absolutely and Professor Nolan sounded even more positive. I take a degree of confidence from that.

    But the CMO did say that there was cause for concern, he said he was concerned. And rationally you'd have to be, at least to an extent.

    Okay, hopefully they got all the clusters and outbreaks etc, etc but at the same time today shows, clearly, how easily outbreaks can happen and how quickly things can potentially spread and how on your guard you have to be at all times.

    I acknowledge that Dr. Glynn said more positive things than negative things. He did. But he did say negative things. And while I appreciate your contributions on the thread Citizen you consistently downplay any potential negatives, to the extent that you're now in denial about those negatives.

    In fairness, Holohan and the rest of them never said, "not concerned"
    They always said there was concern to some degree.


  • #2916
    ACitizenErased
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,767 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    Arghus wrote: »
    He did say positive things in the press conference, absolutely and Professor Nolan sounded even more positive. I take a degree of confidence from that.

    But the CMO did say that there was cause for concern, he said he was concerned. And rationally you'd have to be, at least to an extent.

    Okay, hopefully they got all the clusters and outbreaks etc, etc but at the same time today shows, clearly, how easily outbreaks can happen and how quickly things can potentially spread and how on your guard you have to be at all times.

    I acknowledge that Dr. Glynn said more positive things than negative things. He did. But he did say negative things. And while I appreciate your contributions on the thread Citizen you consistently downplay any potential negatives, to the extent that you're now in denial about those negatives.
    I see you've chosen to ignore my worry about the positive tests increasing over the past two days, the factories still without proper precautions and the fact that we still have travel cases. I worry about things that actually matter.

    I'm a numbers guy, EVERYONE knows that. I am reacting based on the figures given and there is shock that I'm positive?


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  • #2917
    ShineOn7
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,550 ✭✭✭ShineOn7


    Arghus wrote: »
    And while I appreciate your contributions on the thread Citizen you consistently downplay any potential negatives, to the extent that you're now in denial about those negatives.


    100% this

    I appreciate your data Citizen, but you've blinders on more days than not


  • #2918
    owlbethere
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,329 ✭✭✭owlbethere


    Gruffalox wrote: »
    You are married to Paddygreen, aren't ya ;)

    LOL. No, I'm not married to paddygreen. Sueing establishments into compliance is the only way forward.


  • #2919
    ACitizenErased
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,767 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    ShineOn7 wrote: »
    100% this

    I appreciate your data Citizen, but you've blinders on some days more than not
    Can you PM me if you have a problem with me? As far as I know this thread isn't about me.


  • #2920
    Widdensushi
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,592 ✭✭✭Widdensushi


    owlbethere wrote: »
    +1 well said.

    Wait til the pubs open and construction workers will be going to the pubs come Friday evening. That's if they are not drinking every evening already. So that will be cases confirmed to pubs.


    If I was working in a place with loose compliance, I would be going down the compo route. I have a notebook and pen I carry with me everywhere, if I go to the shops, if I go out eating. I bring it with me. If there's any incident of people coughing or rule breaking I will be dating a page and writing it down. I will probably bring it to the attention of a manager or supervisor. If I get sick within 14 days of such an incident and I suspect an exposure was related to such an incident, I will be going down the compo route.

    Lovely post, if there were more people like you we would be??????


  • #2921
    Jim_Hodge
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,238 ✭✭✭✭Jim_Hodge


    owlbethere wrote: »
    +1 well said.

    Wait til the pubs open and construction workers will be going to the pubs come Friday evening. That's if they are not drinking every evening already. So that will be cases confirmed to pubs.


    If I was working in a place with loose compliance, I would be going down the compo route. I have a notebook and pen I carry with me everywhere, if I go to the shops, if I go out eating. I bring it with me. If there's any incident of people coughing or rule breaking I will be dating a page and writing it down. I will probably bring it to the attention of a manager or supervisor. If I get sick within 14 days of such an incident and I suspect an exposure was related to such an incident, I will be going down the compo route.

    My flabber has never been so gasted. Absurd behaviour, to say the least.


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  • #2922
    petes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,382 ✭✭✭petes


    Boggles wrote: »
    Really, because I express my opinion based on the opposite of what some random poster says?

    Cool story bro.

    If you have any more like them, maybe keep them to yourself, eh? Good Lad.

    If everyone agreed with you'd disagree with yourself.

    And eh, no, I won't keep them to myself. 'Cool story, bro', shows exactly the immaturity I'm talking about.


  • #2923
    ShineOn7
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,550 ✭✭✭ShineOn7


    ACitizenErased wrote: »
    Can you PM me if you have a problem with me? As far as I know this thread isn't about me.


    Are you going to ask the rest of the posters who think the same as me to PM you too?

    All we're saying is that you've lost objectivity, and has been mentioned, you take a passive aggressive approach to anyone who disagrees with you

    Anyhoo;

    Time for dinner


  • #2924
    ACitizenErased
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,767 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    Did anyone catch the hospital figures?


  • #2925
    ACitizenErased
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,767 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    ShineOn7 wrote: »
    Are you going to ask the rest of the posters who think the same as me to PM you too?

    All we're saying is that you've lost objectivity, and has been mentioned, you take a passive aggressive approach to anyone who disagrees with you

    Anyhoo;

    Time for dinner
    Who says I have to be objective? I'm not a media organisation. I'm not being paid.


    I'm off to the pub.


  • #2926
    Boggles
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42,566 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    petes wrote: »
    If everyone agreed with you'd disagree with yourself.

    And eh, no, I won't keep them to myself. 'Cool story, bro', shows exactly the immaturity I'm talking about.

    WTF? I have literally never noticed you before. :pac:

    Jesus Christ, have a good one anyway.


  • #2927
    B.A._Baracus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,242 ✭✭✭✭B.A._Baracus


    owlbethere wrote: »
    +1 well said.

    Wait til the pubs open and construction workers will be going to the pubs come Friday evening. That's if they are not drinking every evening already. So that will be cases confirmed to pubs.


    If I was working in a place with loose compliance, I would be going down the compo route. I have a notebook and pen I carry with me everywhere, if I go to the shops, if I go out eating. I bring it with me. If there's any incident of people coughing or rule breaking I will be dating a page and writing it down. I will probably bring it to the attention of a manager or supervisor. If I get sick within 14 days of such an incident and I suspect an exposure was related to such an incident, I will be going down the compo route.

    Seriously?
    Bet youre a curtain twitcher too haha.


  • #2928
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    PokeHerKing wrote: »
    There's absolutely no way of knowing that. It can take up to 14 days to become symptomatic and then you've got the asymptomatic cases.

    It's an invisible virus and we live in a world where you could come into contact with any number of untraceable contacts. The contract tracing has inherent limitations.

    I'm not trying to be positive or negative by the way, just pointing out the fallacy in your posts.
    Eh, that's what they said. I'm summarising it. Take up that fallacy thing with Glynn and co.


  • #2929
    Gruffalux
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,023 ✭✭✭Gruffalux


    owlbethere wrote: »
    LOL. No, I'm not married to paddygreen. Sueing establishments into compliance is the only way forward.

    Aww. I am usually great at match-making. He could lick your pencil tip :p


  • #2930
    bodhrandude
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,902 ✭✭✭✭bodhrandude


    Would've have been working down at Portlaw in Waterford this weekend at All Together Now festival, ah well, hopefully next year, fingers crossed.

    If you want to get into it, you got to get out of it. (Hawkwind 1982)



  • #2931
    What Username Guidelines
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,139 ✭✭✭What Username Guidelines


    Have to say I’m leaving more negative on this news, great news they’re identifiable and they’re confident they can trace the majority of cases, but if they missed a couple or didn’t catch them for a few days, it’s 85 potential chances to flare up in private households where we know it likes to spread.

    Thinking it through as a process, it would have taken a couple of cases to notice the cluster, which doesn’t happen in a matter of hours.

    It’s not so much that this is gonna cause massive spread, but it underscores the vigilance needed if we can plod along at 20 cases per day and then suddenly see a rise. Even if we report single digits tomorrow, it shows potential.

    I’m also confused by the confidence some posters have at where this spreads and doesn’t spread. No cases linked to pubs =\= it doesn’t spread there. Any of those 85 could have spread it easily in a pub. It likely takes time for this things to simmer, like the milk analogy posted earlier.

    The 9 deaths last week explained as late reporting is an understandable explanation for sudden jump.

    85 cases explained as clusters is better than 85 random cases, but I don’t think you can view it as a positive explanation.


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  • #2932
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    ACitizenErased wrote: »
    Did anyone catch the hospital figures?
    6, one in each of six hospitals! That came from Reid earlier.


  • #2933
    seanb85
    Closed Accounts Posts: 189 ✭✭seanb85


    There must be a concern that the distancing and prevention measures in workplaces aren't working if such large clusters are emerging, either the return to work protocols aren't being adhered to, or they are not working/are insufficient. Masks in all workplaces may need to be legislated for.


  • #2934
    D.Q
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,054 ✭✭✭D.Q


    bodhrandude wrote: »
    Would've have been working down at Portlaw in Waterford this weekend at All Together Now festival, ah well, hopefully next year, fingers crossed.

    Now that's real sadness.


  • #2935
    normanoffside
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,234 ✭✭✭✭normanoffside


    ACitizenErased wrote: »
    Did anyone catch the hospital figures?

    Down to 5 this evening according to Prof Nolan


  • #2936
    JRant
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,236 ✭✭✭✭JRant


    ShineOn7 wrote: »
    Private household clusters in that number range are still very bad news

    If we could get concrete numbers of how much of today's huge number is actually from factory and construction outbreaks, then we'll know where we stand

    Saying things like:



    is ridiculous

    There's only so much positive spin you can give something

    Citizen is one of the few realistic posters on this thread. Never goes OTT either way and always provides good data.

    "Well, yeah, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man"



  • #2937
    boetstark
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,020 ✭✭✭boetstark


    Not a bit surprised by todays figures. I spoke with an acquaintance who literally ran out of kilkee last week. She owns a house there and went to the golf club , had lunch and went straight home to limerick.
    No social distancing , very few wearing masks and place packed with people.
    18 cases today between limerick and Clare , I expect more.
    Its annoying that the staycationers are vilifying people who go to a green list country. Cheaper and safer


  • #2938
    Arghus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,257 ✭✭✭✭Arghus


    MOR316 wrote: »
    In fairness, Holohan and the rest of them never said, "not concerned"
    They always said there was concern to some degree.

    That's true, but this day last week Glynn said he was "uncertain but optimistic"


  • #2939
    weldoninhio
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,311 ✭✭✭✭weldoninhio


    owlbethere wrote: »
    +1 well said.

    Wait til the pubs open and construction workers will be going to the pubs come Friday evening. That's if they are not drinking every evening already. So that will be cases confirmed to pubs.


    If I was working in a place with loose compliance, I would be going down the compo route. I have a notebook and pen I carry with me everywhere, if I go to the shops, if I go out eating. I bring it with me. If there's any incident of people coughing or rule breaking I will be dating a page and writing it down. I will probably bring it to the attention of a manager or supervisor. If I get sick within 14 days of such an incident and I suspect an exposure was related to such an incident, I will be going down the compo route.

    Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.

    Sorry, are you serious?? How will your notebook and pen be able to detect where you got sick? Will it magically point out asymptomatic people?


  • #2940
    Utopia Parkway
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,029 ✭✭✭✭Utopia Parkway


    seanb85 wrote: »
    There must be a concern that the distancing and prevention measures in workplaces aren't working if such large clusters are emerging, either the return to work protocols aren't being adhered to, or they are not working/are insufficient. Masks in all workplaces may need to be legislated for.

    In this case it looks like a group working in the same factory and many of them probably living together in the same house and more than likely sharing the same transport from their homes to the factory.


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  • #2941
    GeorgeBailey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,187 ✭✭✭GeorgeBailey


    I know we're meant to be nothing but snarky about weddings on boards but did anyone happen to catch what the CMO said about them? Asking for someone, i.e me, who depends on weddings to pay the bills.


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