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Covid 19 Part XX-26,644 in ROI (1,772 deaths) 6,064 in NI (556 deaths) (08/08)Read OP

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,592 ✭✭✭Widdensushi


    Just seen that Russia has done 27 million tests, well done considering they were late to the game and Alot of their population would be very isolated


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 596 ✭✭✭majcos


    Do you know if/what hospitals are performing antibody tests routinely?

    I didn't think they were available through the public system yet.
    I don’t know if they are being performed routinely anywhere but antibody testing is or was happening in at least four hospitals.

    I know that they have been done in cases where patients’ swabs tested PCR negative but doctors had strong suspicion that swab result was a false negative. If it was clinical consistent case and subsequently antibody positive, then has been counted as a confirmed case. Some of the antibody testing is linked to research by infectious diseases departments. In other situation, it was led by microbiology department and infection control teams to facilitate transfer of patients from Covid to non Covid zones within hospital as an extra confirmation of a negative swab result.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,548 ✭✭✭Martina1991


    majcos wrote:
    I don’t know if they are being performed routinely anywhere but antibody testing is or was happening in at least four hospitals.
    Maybe only done by the request of a Consultant then.

    Definitely not available to GPs or NCHDs I would say.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,550 ✭✭✭ShineOn7


    A person on Reddit is claiming to work in a hospital and have been antibody tested. They said the positive antibody tests are being added to confirmed case numbers, just like in Spain. Anyone know anything about this?


    On the daily thread on Reddit Ireland?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 596 ✭✭✭majcos


    GAA needs to be stopped, every day there's clubs closing down due to cases
    Think they are closing down before even having a definite positive result which is reassuring that they are being cautious. Report today on a club in Donegal suspending activity while one of players waits for a result. Not a definite case. Some of the clubs that have previously suspended activity but the tested player has turned out to be negative.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,550 ✭✭✭ShineOn7


    Do posts on boards.ie factor into many of your life decisions?

    If fairness to Owl, you'd be surprised how much this Subforum can change someone's mood and thoughts on the situation

    "Just don't read it then" really isn't a suitable reply in this case. It's, generally speaking, a very good source of information on the Covid situation in Ireland

    But there's no doubting it can change your mood from "we're doing ok" to "fcuk, when will this end?" in a matter of seconds some days


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 596 ✭✭✭majcos


    Maybe only done by the request of a Consultant then.

    Definitely not available to GPs or NCHDs I would say.
    Yes. I would imagine it is limited like that but availability seems to be spreading even though validation still being debated. It’s not available publicly to GP patients and is limited to consultant approval in hospitals only as you say.

    As well as TMB, Trinity Clinic and Malahide Family Practice offering antibody testing for 90 euro and probably more places soon for those able and willing to pay for it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,148 ✭✭✭mountgomery burns


    majcos wrote: »
    Think they are closing down before even having a definite positive result which is reassuring that they are being cautious. Report today on a club in Donegal suspending activity while one of players waits for a result. Not a definite case. Some of the clubs that have previously suspended activity but the tested player has turned out to be negative.

    In Derry some of the clubs suspended activities due to an outbreak in the area without having any suspected cases I believe.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,148 ✭✭✭mountgomery burns


    Separate question, when did the social distancing guidelines relax to 1 metre? Saw a lot of signs recently that say keep at least one metre, ideally two. Was a big talking point for so long but that seems to have gone under the radar unless I missed something?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 596 ✭✭✭majcos


    In Derry some of the clubs suspended activities due to an outbreak in the area without having any suspected cases I believe.
    Wonder if that is in the Limavady karaoke party area. At least 37 cases linked to it so far.


    https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/health/coronavirus/coronavirus-37-test-positive-for-covid-following-karaoke-party-held-at-limavady-house-39398977.html


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 596 ✭✭✭majcos


    Separate question, when did the social distancing guidelines relax to 1 metre? Saw a lot of signs recently that say keep at least one metre, ideally two. Was a big talking point for so long but that seems to have gone under the radar unless I missed something?
    Close to Derry again? UK were talking about dropping to 1m plus.


  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 7,782 Mod ✭✭✭✭delly


    Jesus wept!
    Limavady Covid-19 spike linked to microphone passed around at house party karaoke session


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,812 ✭✭✭thelad95


    majcos wrote: »
    Think they are closing down before even having a definite positive result which is reassuring that they are being cautious. Report today on a club in Donegal suspending activity while one of players waits for a result. Not a definite case. Some of the clubs that have previously suspended activity but the tested player has turned out to be negative.

    The GAA is an amateur sport with professional notions. Players training and playing (with no social distancing) is a risk that does not need to be taken in my eyes.

    It's different for professional sports teams that are essentially kept in a bubble with no contact with anyone else expect their team mates and coaches. Many professional leagues have implemented regular testing of all involved. These are salaried players and there's wide ranging commercial obligations to be fulfilled. It's a business.

    The GAA involves amateurs who also have day jobs and as such likely have wide social circles and a large number of close contacts. Their chance of being infected is thereby higher and the uncontrolled environment that GAA activities are operating in compared to the "bubbles" seen in professional sports is way riskier.

    All this for the fulfilment of meaningless amateur competitions. Personally, I just don't understand why the GAA had to return, in the context of a global pandemic that is not going anywhere any time soon, I really think amateur close contact team sports should have been shelved.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 12,537 Mod ✭✭✭✭igCorcaigh


    So, on that topic of karaoke and microphones....

    Are fomites / touch surfaces still considered a major factor in the spread of this virus as opposed to droplets?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,050 ✭✭✭Polar101


    Take out the top 5 countries who are having a ****show and we’d have half the cases that currently exist worldwide. Not sure why some people still claim the world is ****ed when this fact exists.

    Because there are more new cases worldwide now than there were 1-3 months ago. I'm not a huge fan of these arguments where we can choose the suitable statistics in order to make the situation favourable to one's viewpoint.

    It's true we could remove USA, Brazil, Russia and select Latin American countries, and the statistics would look beautiful. But it's a worldwide pandemic that spread to every country (even Turkmenistan and North Korea, despite what they say) from one country, and the virus is still present in every country.

    The point is, even if we ignore the likes of USA and see how well we are doing, it doesn't really change anything. The pandemic is still ongoing. I personally believe that Ireland will manage until a vaccine arrives, and a lot of Europe will too, but we shouldn't be complacent about it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,329 ✭✭✭owlbethere


    Do posts on boards.ie factor into many of your life decisions?

    Yes. Yes they do.

    There was a poster here on boards.ie not so long ago. He was a doctor or a professor. He did the questions and answers thing on boards. In the early days of this pandemic, way back in February, he wrote a post with some general guidelines. I don't know if he was recommending posters to follow it if he was writing to tell the reader what he does to minimise picking up the virus.

    It was a list like
    Avoid public transport
    Avoid crowds
    Don't be around sick people, if you're out and see someone coughing, avoid,

    I started following his guidelines. It was well before our own hse and government implemented guidelines. We had some guidelines of washing hands and covering coughs but it was limited guidelines.

    That post from that boards user stood to me. I avoided crowds and public transport and kept away from sick people.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 12,537 Mod ✭✭✭✭igCorcaigh


    Agreed Polar.

    And we also have to take into account the questionable reporting across parts of the world.

    A large part of this pandemic could be hidden.
    We may never know the toll.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 596 ✭✭✭majcos


    thelad95 wrote: »
    The GAA is an amateur sport with professional notions. Players training and playing (with no social distancing) is a risk that does not need to be taken in my eyes.

    It's different for professional sports teams that are essentially kept in a bubble with no contact with anyone else expect their team mates and coaches. Many professional leagues have implemented regular testing of all involved. These are salaried players and there's wide ranging commercial obligations to be fulfilled. It's a business.

    The GAA involves amateurs who also have day jobs and as such likely have wide social circles and a large number of close contacts. Their chance of being infected is thereby higher and the uncontrolled environment that GAA activities are operating in compared to the "bubbles" seen in professional sports is way riskier.

    All this for the fulfilment of meaningless amateur competitions. Personally, I just don't understand why the GAA had to return, in the context of a global pandemic that is not going anywhere any time soon, I really think amateur close contact team sports should have been shelved.
    Wasn’t really thinking about whether they should be open but I just meant at least when they have been faced with the potential situation of having a case, that they have been sensible enough to call a halt while waiting for the test result rather than waiting for it to be positive before making that call.

    Agree that the GAA is vastly different than the NBA Disney World bubble.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,148 ✭✭✭mountgomery burns


    majcos wrote: »
    Close to Derry again? UK were talking about dropping to 1m plus.

    No both Dublin, indoors and outdoors I've seen it. Neither were restaraunt/pub settings either to be clear

    And they were official HSE banners


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,767 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    I’ve been back playing GAA for a few weeks now and I think it’s being very well handled tbh. Every club/division has covid officers and there’s hand sanitiser everywhere, in my club anyway at least.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,148 ✭✭✭mountgomery burns


    majcos wrote: »

    It is but only one of 10 clubs that have suspended activity have had a confirmed case in one of their members so I believe


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,592 ✭✭✭Widdensushi


    A person on Reddit is claiming to work in a hospital and have been antibody tested. They said the positive antibody tests are being added to confirmed case numbers, just like in Spain. Anyone know anything about this?

    You are a great poster with a lot of very valuable information, you need to take a break, life is not about reading forums, there are real people in your life that need your attention, not random strangers on forums


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,134 ✭✭✭caveat emptor


    Spain cases rising faster than elsewhere. Regional variations exist.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,839 ✭✭✭Always_Running


    majcos wrote: »
    Think they are closing down before even having a definite positive result which is reassuring that they are being cautious. Report today on a club in Donegal suspending activity while one of players waits for a result. Not a definite case. Some of the clubs that have previously suspended activity but the tested player has turned out to be negative.

    All going by the protocols and fair play to clubs being cautious.

    Between training, challenges and championship games GAA action has been back 5 weeks now and as far as I know no on field GAA activity has led to a positive case thus far in ROI.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,172 ✭✭✭wadacrack


    All going by the protocols and fair play to clubs being cautious.

    Between training, challenges and championship games GAA action has been back 5 weeks now and as far as I know no on field GAA activity has led to a positive case thus far in ROI.

    Outdoor transmission and sports won't be a main driver of this. Clearly it spreads far greater indoors. The risk is not 0% but the fact that Norwich had a player play a friendly against Tottenham with a player who was infected with Covid it did not lead to an infected case should give players some confidence that Outdoor sports are pretty safe. At the moment GAA clubs are handling it pretty well I think. Some clubs taking a cautious approach and suspending activity if a club member is even tested. The lack of distancing with people watching games and subs needs to get better.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,172 ✭✭✭wadacrack


    1/3 of Non hospitalized Covid cases are experiencing long term illness following the virus. Their could be cases of people who struggle with the virus for the rest of their lives.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s_fSz3y022o


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,389 ✭✭✭schmoo2k


    owlbethere wrote: »
    Yes. Yes they do.

    There was a poster here on boards.ie not so long ago. He was a doctor or a professor. He did the questions and answers thing on boards. In the early days of this pandemic, way back in February, he wrote a post with some general guidelines. I don't know if he was recommending posters to follow it if he was writing to tell the reader what he does to minimise picking up the virus.

    It was a list like
    Avoid public transport
    Avoid crowds
    Don't be around sick people, if you're out and see someone coughing, avoid,

    I started following his guidelines. It was well before our own hse and government implemented guidelines. We had some guidelines of washing hands and covering coughs but it was limited guidelines.

    That post from that boards user stood to me. I avoided crowds and public transport and kept away from sick people.

    Folks need to remember, what might appear to be obvious to most, is not necessarily obvious to everyone.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 473 ✭✭ChelseaRentBoy


    Take out the top 5 countries who are having a ****show and we’d have half the cases that currently exist worldwide. Not sure why some people still claim the world is ****ed when this fact exists.

    What a ridiculous argument.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,059 ✭✭✭kg703


    Just on the antibody testing, I would't be so sure its accurate anyway..... My sister in law was a confirmed case back in ... March I think. She paid privately for the antibody test there last month - doesnt have the antibodies apparently. So either:

    Her C19 test was not accurate (she had and still has lingering symptoms)
    Her antibody test is not accurate
    You can catch the virus again - within 3-4 months


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,329 ✭✭✭owlbethere


    It was reported in the news for months that animals can get this coronavirus. Its not new news. From someone I know, that news is only registering with her now because it was reported on English news and on English TV recently about an English cat getting the virus.

    The virus would be stamped out all over the world if there was some cheap TV maybe call it Health-Factor and get Simon Cowell to judge the population and tell them what to do to keep the virus under control.


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