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Covid 19 Part XX-26,644 in ROI (1,772 deaths) 6,064 in NI (556 deaths) (08/08)Read OP

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  • #2012
    [Deleted User]
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    caveat emptor wrote: »
    Yeah I did. Did you read what I "shared".
    i.e I'm sharing information as and when it becomes available.
    I'm trying to share credible information that may be coming down the line.
    What I'm not doing is saying it'll be grand.
    Or asking and answering a question.



    More severe infection doesn't sound great. You know people have to get sick before they die? It can take some time.


    https://twitter.com/aliostad/status/1283840062002692097?s=20

    My point is nothing has been seen that is out of the ordinary with what is seen with other viruses. If we start to see reports of widespread reinfections with little resistance to severe infections, then it may be time to worry


  • #2013
    owlbethere
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    ACitizenErased wrote: »
    Interesting point from Dr. Glynn in the press release that well over half of the cases today were confirmed close contacts. It seems we are picking up most if not all of close contacts based on that percentage. Really good.

    It also makes the number not as bad, its not as if they’re all untrackable cases

    I wasn't watching the press conference. Over half of today's cases are confirmed close contacts. It's good that these people are being caught before they go about and circulate with people. Are the rest of the cases community transmissions and not known how they got virus?


  • #2014
    weldoninhio
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    Conall Cernach wrote: »
    Who would hire someone knowing that they'd be off to their old job as soon as it reopens?

    A lot of people have no “old job” to go back to. Should we keep paying them €350 a week until Covid is gone?


  • #2015
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    owlbethere wrote: »
    Just catching up with todays news. 40 new cases. The cases are climbing and 40 is a lot.

    Cases are very stable


  • #2016
    [Deleted User]
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    John O.Groats wrote: »
    When one of the countries that is having a ****show is the USA and with flights to and from there still being allowed by many countries including Ireland then yeah I would suggest that the world does have a problem.

    US is more like 50 separate outbreaks than one single **** show as you say. The north east looks a lot like Italy now


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  • #2017
    ACitizenErased
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    owlbethere wrote: »
    I wasn't watching the press conference. Over half of today's cases are confirmed close contacts. It's good that these people are being caught before they go about and circulate with people. Are the rest of the cases community transmissions and not known how they got virus?
    You've got community cases, travel, nursing homes, healthcare workers etc making up the rest


  • #2018
    Level 42
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    owlbethere wrote: »
    Just catching up with todays news. 40 new cases. The cases are climbing and 40 is a lot.

    Manipulating the figures to suit the agenda that's all. Pointed out here yesterday that the figures yesterday were incorrect. Wear masks pubs won't open Aug 10th etc


  • #2019
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    owlbethere wrote: »
    The toaiseach is due to pass legislation tonight for anyone receiving the PUP must be genuinely seeking work.

    I can't believe this. Its a complete pack of balls. People receiving the pup were sent out of work by the government to reduce the spread of the virus. Many are still jot back to work like pubs and concerts and musicians. How are they supposed to be seeking work?

    It's legislation just to give some people the high horse to look down on people being unemployed during this pandemic. That's all it.

    Raises the question of how you can say this yet also prevent their employers from reopening? Really threading in muddy waters there...


  • #2020
    s1ippy
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    Conall Cernach wrote: »
    Who would hire someone knowing that they'd be off to their old job as soon as it reopens?
    My partner is put in a position now where their seasonally-affected work (commercial factory relying heavily on tourism) will be able to operate normally from September or October, coming up to Christmas. Obviously summer sales are going to be way down as there are no tourists, but people buy their products as gifts and the boss is after really revamping their online order system to compensate for having fewer suppliers.

    It's highly skilled work that they do, with metal and machines, and managing the online side of things and dealing with suppliers and customers. My partner is the only employee their boss has and they divide the work between them. There's just no demand at the moment, so no need for them both to be in work. But it will pick up in the colder months, because Christmas is always reliable even if the summer months haven't been amazing. That's always the case in every segment of gift retail, and they've made sure they cover themselves if suppliers aren't putting in huge orders now.

    So they're supposed to go and look for a job now if they want to receive PUP, knowing they'll be back to work in a month or two?? What about their boss, who needs them and can't easily replace the 15 years of experience that they have doing the job? Should they be going and asking their boss for a redundancy package?


  • #2021
    jam_mac_jam
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    s1ippy wrote: »
    My partner is put in a position now where their seasonally-affected work (commercial factory relying heavily on tourism) will be able to operate normally from September or October, coming up to Christmas. Obviously summer sales are going to be way down as there are no tourists, but people buy their products as gifts and the boss is after really revamping their online order system to compensate for having fewer suppliers.

    It's highly skilled work that he does with metal and machines, and managing the online side of things and dealing with suppliers and customers. My partner is the only employee their boss has and they divide the work between them. There's just no demand at the moment, so no need for them both to be in work. But it will pick up in the colder months, because Christmas is always reliable even if the summer months haven't been amazing. That's always the case in every segment of gift retail, and they've made sure they cover themselves if suppliers aren't putting in huge orders now.

    So they're supposed to go and look for a job now if they want to receive PUP, knowing they'll be back to work in a month or two?? What about their boss, who needs them and can't easily replace the 15 years of experience that they have doing the job? Should they be going and asking their boss for a redundancy package?

    Yes work at something else for a month or two and go back. Is that really such a crazy thing to suggest. Doesn't stop them going back.


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  • #2022
    Away With The Fairies
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    AdamD wrote: »
    Raises the question of how you can say this yet also prevent their employers from reopening? Really threading in muddy waters there...

    Maybe there's no plans to re-open pubs. It's an awful lot of people out of work.


  • #2023
    Gael23
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,153 ✭✭✭✭Gael23


    How do we know they are not holding back cases to make the Tuesday number lol big and give an excuse to continue delaying the reopening process?


  • #2024
    What Username Guidelines
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    HSE operations report out

    Hospitalised has gone up 3 to 13. Looks like Portiuncula had 3 admissions this evening.

    ICU remains at 6 total with 3 ventilated.

    Side note: Looks like the Mater is down to just 1 patient.


  • #2025
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    Level 42 wrote: »
    Manipulating the figures to suit the agenda that's all. Pointed out here yesterday that the figures yesterday were incorrect. Wear masks pubs won't open Aug 10th etc

    That’s bs. It’s far more likely some positives over the weekend are no processed or validated until Monday’s. If they were manipulating for an agenda surely they would make the peak occur on a Thursday or Friday.


  • #2026
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    Gael23 wrote: »
    How do we know they are not holding back cases to make the Tuesday number lol big and give an excuse to continue delaying the reopening process?

    Why Tuesday and not Thursday or friday?


  • #2027
    seanb85
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    owlbethere wrote: »
    I wasn't watching the press conference. Over half of today's cases are confirmed close contacts. It's good that these people are being caught before they go about and circulate with people. Are the rest of the cases community transmissions and not known how they got virus?

    32% in the last two weeks are community transmission, this is a little bit worrying as unknown sources of transmission create potential for exponential growth. It also means distancing, masks and restricting gatherings are still essential measures.


  • #2028
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    Deleted User wrote: »
    That’s bs. It’s far more likely some positives over the weekend are no processed or validated until Monday’s. If they were manipulating for an agenda surely they would make the peak occur on a Thursday or Friday.

    Which seems utterly ludicrous when a poster on boards can tell me on Sunday we've underreported but the HSE cannot?


  • #2029
    Level 42
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    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    That’s bs. It’s far more likely some positives over the weekend are no processed or validated until Monday’s. If they were manipulating for an agenda surely they would make the peak occur on a Thursday or Friday.

    Your wrong check the posts from yesterday here before they announced yesterday's figures. There's an agenda set and it will go on.


  • #2030
    igCorcaigh
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    I tend to favour ineptitude or complexity over conspiracy generally, so I think there are logistical reasons for the reporting delays, but I think they should make it far clearer that these delays are happening, along with an explanation why.

    They should also focus much more on the 7 day average rather than the daily case count, and the quality of journalism regarding this is very poor (possibly out of self-interest for the click bait merchants).


  • #2031
    ACitizenErased
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    What Username Guidelines wrote: »
    HSE operations report out

    Hospitalised has gone up 3 to 13. Looks like Portiuncula had 3 admissions this evening.

    ICU remains at 6 total with 3 ventilated.

    Side note: Looks like the Mater is down to just 1 patient.
    Portiuncula +3 (3)
    Tallaght -- (3)
    Mater -1 (1)
    Beaumont +1 (2)
    Naas -1 (0)
    Drogheda -- (1)
    Portlaoise +1 (2)
    Sligo -- (1)


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  • #2032
    ACitizenErased
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    seanb85 wrote: »
    32% in the last two weeks are community transmission, this is a little bit worrying as unknown sources of transmission create potential for exponential growth. It also means distancing, masks and restricting gatherings are still essential measures.
    Community transmission has not increased at all really in the past few weeks, the total overall is 32% this week vs 40% in June.


  • #2033
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    AdamD wrote: »
    Which seems utterly ludicrous when a poster on boards can tell me on Sunday we've underreported but the HSE cannot?

    They are posting the raw data. Positive tests one day minus the previous day. There may well have been some people tested multiple times. There have in fact been almost 4,000 more positive tests than cases. There is a poster on this site in the labs so may be able to ahead more light on it, but I would imagine there is a review process from when a positive result from a sample, likely only identified by a number, becomes a confirmed case. And it is also not surprising to see that some of these on a weekend slip until Monday.


  • #2034
    LuckyLloyd
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    ShineOn7 wrote: »
    The two most upvoted posts on the Reddit Ireland daily thread are bang on the money



    and

    It’s not really a 0.3% positivity rate is it though? 30k plus tests a week are scheduled tests of care home staff or those booked for medical tests / procedures. Only a subset of the 45k tests we’re carrying out each week are actually in play: i.e. referrals due to symptoms in the community or close contacts of confirmed cases.

    The “0.3% positivity rate” nonsense needs to stop.


  • #2035
    owlbethere
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    AdamD wrote: »
    Raises the question of how you can say this yet also prevent their employers from reopening? Really threading in muddy waters there...

    For sure.


  • #2036
    ACitizenErased
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,767 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    LuckyLloyd wrote: »
    It’s not really a 0.3% positivity rate is it though? 30k plus tests a week are scheduled tests of care home staff or those booked for medical tests / procedures. Only a subset of the 45k tests we’re carrying out each week are actually in play: i.e. referrals due to symptoms in the community or close contacts of confirmed cases.

    The “0.3% positivity rate” nonsense needs to stop.
    It is a 0.3% posivity rate though? There's no ifs/buts about it


  • #2037
    Duke of Url
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    Why are they not giving background of how the newly infected people are catching the virus so people can learn from it.


  • #2038
    owlbethere
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    seanb85 wrote: »
    32% in the last two weeks are community transmission, this is a little bit worrying as unknown sources of transmission create potential for exponential growth. It also means distancing, masks and restricting gatherings are still essential measures.

    Sh1t, sh1t, sh1t and sh1t. I was feeling fairly confident to book a night away this weekend. Now I'm getting nervous and getting some cold feet.


  • #2039
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    Level 42 wrote: »
    Your wrong check the posts from yesterday here before they announced yesterday's figures. There's an agenda set and it will go on.

    Why pick Tuesday?

    I am well aware of the numbers and they all tally fairly well over the week, however what is clear is they have modified the process for turning positive test results into confirmed cases following a weekend. Likely for administrative reason, or maybe even the increase in testing of close contacts. They will always prioritise the hospital cases and symptomatic over close contacts with no symptoms, and a few weeks back they weren’t getting tested in any widespread manner. Now they are, and we have this Tuesday backlog all of a sudden, and also data telling us 50 % of cases are identified close contacts.

    What is to be gained by having low numbers 6 days a week and a peak on a Tuesday if someone is trying to game the system?


  • #2040
    Martina1991
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    Deleted User wrote: »
    That’s bs. It’s far more likely some positives over the weekend are no processed or validated until Monday’s. If they were manipulating for an agenda surely they would make the peak occur on a Thursday or Friday.
    I doubt it's to do with the processing of swabs. That would increase the turnaround time for tests at the weekend. As far as I know, people are still getting texts at weekends if their test was negative.
    It seems administrative.
    AdamD wrote: »
    Which seems utterly ludicrous when a poster on boards can tell me on Sunday we've underreported but the HSE cannot?
    The HPSC announce the number of new cases, not the HSE.


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  • #2041
    hmmm
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    owlbethere wrote: »
    Sh1t, sh1t, sh1t and sh1t. I was feeling fairly confident to book a night away this weekend. Now I'm getting nervous and getting some cold feet.
    The risk is low, and is even lower if you take sensible precautions like social distancing, washing your hands, wear a mask when you're indoors and mixing with other people. It's not something to worry about - go for a nice walk in a forest park.


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