Covid 19 Part XX-26,644 in ROI (1,772 deaths) 6,064 in NI (556 deaths) (08/08)Read OP

ShineOn7 · 24-07-2020 08:48PM

majcos wrote: »

New cases notified to HPSC as of midnight

Friday May 28th to Thursday June 4th = 325
Friday June 5th to Thursday June 11th = 107
Friday June 12th to Thursday June 18th = 123
Friday June 19th to Thursday June 25th = 69
Friday June 26th to Thursday July 2nd = 91
Friday July 3rd to Thursday July 9th = 116
Friday July 10th to Thursday July 16th = 152
Friday July 17th to Thursday July 23rd 117

Did not account for denotifications as do not know to which dates these denotifications apply.

Thanks for working that out

Hmmm, we're doing good but not great once you see it laid out like that

Our weekly average is 10 cases higher than it was 6 weeks ago, and we haven't fully re-opened up yet

Assetbacked · 24-07-2020 08:56PM

ShineOn7 wrote: »

Thanks for working that out

Hmmm, we're not doing good but not great once you see it laid out like that

Our weekly average is 10 cases higher than it was 6 weeks ago, and we haven't fully re-opened up yet

6 weeks ago was the beginning of June, we had not even reopened anything properly at that stage. We're 2 stages beyond that.

Deeper Blue · 24-07-2020 09:00PM

Away With The Fairies wrote: »

And 1 out of 5 if them longer than 5 weeks. Sorry to sh!t on positivity parade.

There's no mention of 5 weeks in the link you posted

caveat emptor · 24-07-2020 09:11PM

What Username Guidelines wrote: »

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/tanaiste-leo-varadkar-says-there-may-be-a-third-and-a-fourth-wave-of-coronavirus-39395501.html

Headline: Leo says there may be a third and fourth wave of the coronavirus.

Story: there might be a second wave, the third wave is people dying as a consequence of the health service being interrupted and the fourth wave is people dying as a result of the economic fallout.

How many will just read the headline?

Thanks but that’s confusing terminology referring to second order and third order consequences as “waves” is not right in this context.

There should be no doubt that a wave in the context of a pandemic refers to a “wave of infection” whether measured by new cases or deaths.

The 3rd and 4th order effects can occur with any subsequent wave of infection.

Hopefully there are no subsequent waves of infections.

Boggles · 24-07-2020 09:13PM

What Username Guidelines wrote: »

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/tanaiste-leo-varadkar-says-there-may-be-a-third-and-a-fourth-wave-of-coronavirus-39395501.html

Headline: Leo says there may be a third and fourth wave of the coronavirus.

Story: there might be a second wave, the third wave is people dying as a consequence of the health service being interrupted and the fourth wave is people dying as a result of the economic fallout.

How many will just read the headline?

Why is Leo exclusively acting like he is in opposition and not at the front seat of the government?

timsey tiger · 24-07-2020 09:24PM

bb1234567 wrote: »

Lol I misread it. In the article it sounded like it was new hospitalisation that day by the way it's worded

'About 59,600 people were hospitalized with Covid-19 in the US on Wednesday -- roughly 300 short of the country's peak recorded in mid-April, according to the Covid Tracking Project.'

If it is the case then it is not a particularly shocking statistic.

Well if the hospitalised prognosis is the same as mid April expect the daily death toll to double over the next few weeks.

timsey tiger · 24-07-2020 09:26PM

ShineOn7 wrote: »

Thanks for working that out

Hmmm, we're not doing good but not great once you see it laid out like that

Our weekly average is 10 cases higher than it was 6 weeks ago, and we haven't fully re-opened up yet

Its not bad, considering how much more opened up we are and it doesn't seem to be rising, so not bad at all.

caveat emptor · 24-07-2020 09:28PM

caveat emptor wrote: »

I got a call off a person out of breath and didn’t know what to tell them as they aren’t registered with GP. Only in the country a couple of months.

I know you are not supposed to rock up in hospital.
Ambulance seems like only option at this stage on Friday.

I was worried for them as with covid and being over weight you might not realise oxygen rate could be depleted and you don’t even know.

Anyway 999 will deal with it.

Thanks to those who genuinely responded

Person got to see a doc at 8pm.
Got referred to and in hospital for CT scan and further checks.

Away With The Fairies · 24-07-2020 09:31PM

El Sueño wrote: »

There's no mention of 5 weeks in the link you posted

Accidentally wrote 5. 1 in 5 longer than the 2-3 weeks that we were all told about.

wadacrack · 24-07-2020 09:35PM

Positivity/denial bias leads to just more pain.

https://twitter.com/TheDailyShow/status/1286760816948080640

Deeper Blue · 24-07-2020 09:39PM

Away With The Fairies wrote: »

Accidentally wrote 5. 1 in 5 longer than the 2-3 weeks that we were all told about.

I'm glad, I was afraid I might have missed it :P

Rob A. Bank · 24-07-2020 09:54PM

ShyMets wrote: »

Or to flip the headline on its head. '4 in 5 young people return to their normal health after 2-3 weeks with the illness'

On the other hand the risk of serious illness from Covid 19 will be a multiple of the eventual death rate.

It's pretty logical to be afraid of getting a 'death's door' type of lung infection, even though you may eventually recover.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xT-zsrAjPqg

Ineedaname · 24-07-2020 09:58PM

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.07.21.20159178v1

New study from China. it followed a group of symptomatic patients over six months. It shows that while antibodies went through an intermediate contraction phase they did stabilise and retain high levels over the entirety of the observational period.

It suggests that other studies may have made the mistake of basing long term trends solely on the contraction phase.

Seems to bode well for long term immunity.

ACitizenErased · 24-07-2020 09:59PM

Confirmation: There have been cases confirmed in the past few weeks that aren't even from the last 6 weeks.
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Clare and Offaly have had confirmed cases in the past two weeks yet haven't had any new ones according to the CSO.

fritzelly · 24-07-2020 10:05PM

So last week they reported double the actual number of cases!

How the hell can they be having all these historic cases - making it look like the virus is spreading more than it is

gipi · 24-07-2020 10:06PM

Louth have had cases reported in recent weeks too (currently 6 days without a case) - on that chart there hasn't been a case since May?

Lots of zeroes and blanks on that chart - wonder if it's correct?

ACitizenErased · 24-07-2020 10:06PM

gipi wrote: »

Louth have had cases reported in recent weeks too (currently 6 days without a case) - on that chart there hasn't been a case since May?

Lots of zeroes and blanks on that chart - wonder if it's correct?

This is from the CSO so I'd say it has to be accurate, blanks = <5

Rob A. Bank · 24-07-2020 10:08PM

Intensive care admissions by those infected with COVID-19 have twice the corrected mortality of patients presenting with non-COVID-19 viral pneumonia.

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fritzelly · 24-07-2020 10:08PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

This is from the CSO so I'd say it has to be accurate, blanks = <5

How stupid

KrustyUCC · 24-07-2020 10:21PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

Confirmation: There have been cases confirmed in the past few weeks that aren't even from the last 6 weeks.

Clare and Offaly have had confirmed cases in the past two weeks yet haven't had any new ones according to the CSO.

Hmmm not good

Funny how they found these cases just before stage 4

majcos · 24-07-2020 10:24PM

ShineOn7 wrote: »

Thanks for working that out

Hmmm, we're doing good but not great once you see it laid out like that

Our weekly average is 10 cases higher than it was 6 weeks ago, and we haven't fully re-opened up yet

If I go back to April, the reduction in case numbers is dramatic. April had the following numbers

Friday April 3rd to Thursday April 9th = 3600
Friday April 10th to Thursday April 16th = 5891
Friday April 17th to Thursday April 23rd = 4154
Friday April 24th to Thursday April 30th = 2649

Slightly different reporting time frames over that period and delays in testing and results so cases notified in each week may not account for actual cases becoming symptomatic or diagnosed in that week but this still gives an idea of scale of cases now compared to three months ago.

Santy2015 · 24-07-2020 10:27PM

KrustyUCC wrote: »

Hmmm not good

Funny how they found these cases just before stage 4

Funny indeed.. it’s hard not to think that these were found/delayed so that we wouldn’t move into phase 4. Some days getting 3 cases etc but possible that those numbers were higher and held off until first week in July...
I sound like a conspiracy theorist

KrustyUCC · 24-07-2020 10:31PM

So do I lol

Santy2015 · 24-07-2020 10:40PM

I hope this goes viral(don’t mind the pun)
https://twitter.com/higginsdavidw/status/1286764265915940866?s=21

It needs to be explained why historical cases were added in the last two weeks.

Santy2015 · 24-07-2020 10:41PM

https://twitter.com/higginsdavidw/status/1286766950669049856?s=21

majcos · 24-07-2020 10:42PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

Confirmation: There have been cases confirmed in the past few weeks that aren't even from the last 6 weeks.

Clare and Offaly have had confirmed cases in the past two weeks yet haven't had any new ones according to the CSO.

This is happening due to ongoing data validation. A case that has originally been counted in Limerick statistics for example may be reassigned to Clare. It looks like a new case (plus one or an increase in number by one) in the daily statements from NPHET but it is not a newly diagnosed or newly reported case but ‘moved’ from one county to another.

Hospitals don’t necessarily follow county borders for their catchment areas and people can go to GPs in another county too so takes a while to figure out whichever county case belongs to.

Jim_Hodge · 24-07-2020 10:44PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

Confirmation: There have been cases confirmed in the past few weeks that aren't even from the last 6 weeks.

Clare and Offaly have had confirmed cases in the past two weeks yet haven't had any new ones according to the CSO.

If you had the figures behind the zeros you'd know better, As it stands it's pointless data with 0= <5.

Santy2015 · 24-07-2020 10:47PM

Operations update. Hospital figures very stable 10 people in hospital 5 in ICU 3 on ventilators
https://www.hse.ie/eng/services/news/newsfeatures/covid19-updates/covid19-daily-operations-update-2000-24-july-2020.pdf

caveat emptor · 24-07-2020 10:47PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

Confirmation: There have been cases confirmed in the past few weeks that aren't even from the last 6 weeks.

Clare and Offaly have had confirmed cases in the past two weeks yet haven't had any new ones according to the CSO.

Are you David w Higgins?

I got accused of being Eric feingl ding
And paddy cosgrave.

I’m not.

mountgomery burns · 24-07-2020 10:48PM

Jim_Hodge wrote: »

If you had the figures behind the zeros you'd know better, As it stands it's pointless data with 0= <5.

0=0

-=<5

No more pointless than a daily confirmed cases total that is not accurately reflecting the past 24 hours, yet is headline news everyday!

Covid 19 Part XX-26,644 in ROI (1,772 deaths) 6,064 in NI (556 deaths) (08/08)Read OP

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