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Covid 19 Part XX-26,644 in ROI (1,772 deaths) 6,064 in NI (556 deaths) (08/08)Read OP

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  • #782
    expectationlost
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    those killarney partiers really f'd it up for everyone else


  • #783
    Assetbacked
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,969 ✭✭✭Assetbacked


    expectationlost wrote: »
    those killarney partiers really f'd it up for everyone else

    If we had a stable government the past few months we would not have the level of restrictions we currently have. I think that is the reason things have moved so slow, perhaps understandable, but I do not think there are data-driven reasons, just a lack of a formed government.


  • #784
    Seamai
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,250 ✭✭✭Seamai


    Whitters22 wrote: »
    I believe Ingrid Miley said on the news yesterday that the threat of a second wave is dangling over us like the 'Sword of Damocles'.

    I thought she said "like a piñata"


  • #785
    Eod100
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,260 ✭✭✭✭Eod100


    It's not much but think this would be welcome. People would still need to self isolate unless coming from green list country either way. https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/visitors-may-be-required-to-take-covid-19-test-before-they-travel-1.4313016


  • #786
    expectationlost
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    Eod100 wrote: »
    It's not much but think this would be welcome. People would still need to self isolate unless coming from green list country either way. https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/visitors-may-be-required-to-take-covid-19-test-before-they-travel-1.4313016


    will this take as long as the green to come into effect


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  • #787
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Assetbacked wrote: »
    If we had a stable government the past few months we would not have the level of restrictions we currently have. I think that is the reason things have moved so slow, perhaps understandable, but I do not think there are data-driven reasons, just a lack of a formed government.
    Restrictions came from NPHET recommendations and they would have been the same or even more stringent under "stable" government.


  • #788
    ACitizenErased
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,767 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    Eod100 wrote: »
    It's not much but think this would be welcome. People would still need to self isolate unless coming from green list country either way. https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/visitors-may-be-required-to-take-covid-19-test-before-they-travel-1.4313016
    Instead of us testing... we're getting someone else to do it for us? How is that going to work? In most countries you can't get tested unless you have symptoms


  • #789
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    ACitizenErased wrote: »
    Instead of us testing... we're getting someone else to do it for us? How is that going to work? In most countries you can't get tested unless you have symptoms
    It sounds like kite flying for social media until someone spots how unworkable it is. The concern here is the minister in charge and he's not always inclined to be flexible nor to go for the most sensible option.


  • #790
    JJayoo
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    Is there any figure on the price per test carried out?


  • #791
    is_that_so
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    JJayoo wrote: »
    Is there any figure on the price per test carried out?
    A cost of about €200 end to end.


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  • #792
    Rob A. Bank
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,842 ✭✭✭Rob A. Bank


    Eod100 wrote: »
    I don't disagree with that but could still have imported cases from countries with similar risk level. I'd favour mandatory quarantine for travel from high risk areas but doesn't seem to be any will from government to implement

    I agree we could import cases from countries with a similar risk.

    But the USA had 69,116 new cases yesterday, Brazil had 58,080 new cases and India had 48,446 yesterday.

    The risk of importing the virus from those countries is clearly orders of magnitude greater than from countries with figures like ours (~20 new cases).

    The fact remains, we could halve the risk from imported cases by producing a red list for only three countries - USA, Brazil and India.


  • #793
    Polar101
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    is_that_so wrote: »
    It sounds like kite flying for social media until someone spots how unworkable it is. The concern here is the minister in charge and he's not always inclined to be flexible nor to go for the most sensible option.

    Yeah, so when someone shows up with a certificate from "OrangeMan Medical Inc" saying negative, they're welcome (if they self-isolate, which they won't). It's not like anyone is going to show up to the airport with proof that they've tested positive.

    So I don't really see this changing much, maybe a few people who tested positive will stay home instead.


  • #794
    majcos
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 596 ✭✭✭majcos


    ShineOn7 wrote: »
    Another day off for Brainie2

    Looking forward to the day we give you your pink slip, as I'm sure are you :)

    Citizen aka The Stat Brain: what are the week on week averages for the last 8 weeks?

    This week felt like a good one overall
    New cases notified to HPSC as of midnight

    Friday May 28th to Thursday June 4th = 325
    Friday June 5th to Thursday June 11th = 107
    Friday June 12th to Thursday June 18th = 123
    Friday June 19th to Thursday June 25th = 69
    Friday June 26th to Thursday July 2nd = 91
    Friday July 3rd to Thursday July 9th = 116
    Friday July 10th to Thursday July 16th = 152
    Friday July 17th to Thursday July 23rd 117

    Did not account for denotifications as do not know to which dates these denotifications apply.


  • #795
    [Deleted User]
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    Itssoeasy wrote: »
    and they won't go to waste.

    They literally will go to waste.


  • #796
    podgeandrodge
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    Is there any value to an antibody test now or have they proven to be of not much use?


  • #797
    Eod100
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    ACitizenErased wrote: »
    Instead of us testing... we're getting someone else to do it for us? How is that going to work? In most countries you can't get tested unless you have symptoms

    Other countries have requirement for tests. Heard GP being asked on radio about it while ago and HSE don't facilitate it alright (unless someone lied about symptoms presumably) but private companies do. Think it's fair enough from high risk countries at least.


  • #798
    podgeandrodge
    Site Banned Posts: 5,975 ✭✭✭podgeandrodge


    Always_Running wrote: »
    7 day average is down to 17 cases a day now. This day last week it was 22 cases per day average.

    Are you always running these calcuations?


  • #799
    Eod100
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,260 ✭✭✭✭Eod100


    expectationlost wrote: »
    will this take as long as the green to come into effect

    I've no idea tbh, even if it will come into effect. But given the online passenger form is only going online by 10th August. So doubt it will be out for a while if ever.


  • #800
    bb1234567
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    Rob A. Bank wrote: »
    I agree we could import cases from countries with a similar risk.

    But the USA had 69,116 new cases yesterday, Brazil had 58,080 new cases and India had 48,446 yesterday.

    The risk of importing the virus from those countries is clearly orders of magnitude greater than from countries with figures like ours (~20 new cases).

    The fact remains, we could halve the risk from imported cases by producing a red list for only three countries - USA, Brazil and India.

    No it wouldn't halve the risk because this theory relies on the idea that a nation's tested numbers in any way reflect the true scale of a pandemic. Mexico reports almost 1000 deaths every weekday and only what like a measily 7000 or 8000 or so new cases. It's crazy, they're probably missing at least 200,000 new infections daily that never are diagnosed. Just one example among many, though Mexico probably has the one of the lowest rates of testing in the world for a hotspot tbf


  • #801
    ACitizenErased
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    Play has resumed at Cork County and Cork Harlequins cricket clubs after a negative test


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  • #802
    Away With The Fairies
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,077 ✭✭✭Away With The Fairies


    New news today, 1 in 5 young people don't return to their normal health after 2-3 weeks with the illness.

    https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/69/wr/mm6930e1.htm?s_cid=mm6930e1_w&fbclid=IwAR2YzFXc11p2I6rOQPI2MGYN48eSjheGv2cpMRX97OeE9_zTAFys3vhqrqo


  • #803
    bb1234567
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    https://edition.cnn.com/2020/07/23/health/us-coronavirus-thursday/index.html

    60,000 Americans hospitalised with COVID yesterday.

    Again, for anyone who thinks this might be like flu(just because it seems to pop up still almost every day), about 450,000 Americans are hospitalsied in an entire 4-5 months flu season.

    https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/index.html


  • #804
    [Deleted User]
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    Away With The Fairies wrote: »
    New news today, 1 in 5 young people don't return to their normal health after 2-3 weeks with the illness.

    https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/69/wr/mm6930e1.htm?s_cid=mm6930e1_w&fbclid=IwAR2YzFXc11p2I6rOQPI2MGYN48eSjheGv2cpMRX97OeE9_zTAFys3vhqrqo

    Yawn!

    Who would have thought a sickness can make you a bit sick for 2 weeks?


  • #805
    ShyMets
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,469 ✭✭✭ShyMets


    Away With The Fairies wrote: »
    New news today, 1 in 5 young people don't return to their normal health after 2-3 weeks with the illness.

    https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/69/wr/mm6930e1.htm?s_cid=mm6930e1_w&fbclid=IwAR2YzFXc11p2I6rOQPI2MGYN48eSjheGv2cpMRX97OeE9_zTAFys3vhqrqo

    Or to flip the headline on its head. '4 in 5 young people return to their normal health after 2-3 weeks with the illness'


  • #806
    Deeper Blue
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    Away With The Fairies wrote: »
    New news today, 1 in 5 young people don't return to their normal health after 2-3 weeks with the illness.

    https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/69/wr/mm6930e1.htm?s_cid=mm6930e1_w&fbclid=IwAR2YzFXc11p2I6rOQPI2MGYN48eSjheGv2cpMRX97OeE9_zTAFys3vhqrqo

    Only 1 in 5? I'd have said that's quite good no? Plus 2-3 weeks is no time at all.


  • #807
    Bubbaclaus
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    bb1234567 wrote: »
    https://edition.cnn.com/2020/07/23/health/us-coronavirus-thursday/index.html

    60,000 Americans hospitalised with COVID yesterday alone.

    Again, for anyone who thinks this might be like flu(just because it seems to pop up still almost every day), about 450,000 Americans are hospitalsied in an entire 4-5 months flu season.

    https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/index.html

    Just for anyone that could misread that post, it is 60,000 currently in hospital with Covid, not 60,000 people being hospitalised yesterday.


  • #808
    What Username Guidelines
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    https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/tanaiste-leo-varadkar-says-there-may-be-a-third-and-a-fourth-wave-of-coronavirus-39395501.html

    Headline: Leo says there may be a third and fourth wave of the coronavirus.

    Story: there might be a second wave, the third wave is people dying as a consequence of the health service being interrupted and the fourth wave is people dying as a result of the economic fallout.

    How many will just read the headline?


  • #809
    Away With The Fairies
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    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    Yawn!

    Who would have thought a sickness can make you a bit sick for 2 weeks?

    And 1 out of 5 if them longer than 5 weeks. Sorry to sh!t on positivity parade.


  • #810
    Assetbacked
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,969 ✭✭✭Assetbacked


    is_that_so wrote: »
    Restrictions came from NPHET recommendations and they would have been the same or even more stringent under "stable" government.

    Source? I look at what has happened in continental Europe and their reopenings, including the UK, and ours does not make sense by comparison.

    I put it down to not having a government, in my opinion. Not a criticism, but an explanation. We are where we are right now, a good position, mask wearing is being taken on board unlike with the idiot American obese public, which means we will continue to be stable. Lockdown unlikely again consequently, we even have 60000 through the borders each week and it's not resulting in a second wave.

    I criticise the slowness but ultimately we are on Boards.ie and none of us should have any influence on actual policy, we all have our opinions and I am more towards the "open the pubs" style but it doesn't mean I'm more wrong or right than someone on the more Conservative reopening end of the spectrum. The mods and policies of Boards.ie mean we can object to or back up the government advice but in the realms of the reasonable due to the policies and moderation. I praise boards.ie in this regard and don't want to dwell on what has occurred as we are just opinionated online folk who essentially just need to keep doing what we are doing. Sometimes, posts become too strong and I am a bit guilty of trying to get personal out of frustration or whatever but it certainly isn't personal to posters and does not mean I will refuse to accept I may have been too strong or wrong! I will always admit I was too strong or wrong.


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  • #811
    bb1234567
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    Bubbaclaus wrote: »
    Just for anyone that could misread that post, it is 60,000 currently in hospital with Covid, not 60,000 people being hospitalised yesterday.

    Lol I misread it. In the article it sounded like it was new hospitalisation that day by the way it's worded

    'About 59,600 people were hospitalized with Covid-19 in the US on Wednesday -- roughly 300 short of the country's peak recorded in mid-April, according to the Covid Tracking Project.'

    If it is the case then it is not a particularly shocking statistic.


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