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Love/Hate (v2) [** Spoilers **]

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 91,386 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    This not on tonight?

    When does the wedding air now :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 58,825 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    I decided to watch on the player..

    Really enjoying this show. Thought was ok first time around. Even better now. It’s very interesting.

    Annoying part is Fran: at the start his character was great. Dark, rash, impulsive and fearless...

    Within an episode or two it’s the cringe coola boola sh1te and his tongue up Nidge’s ass. Came out of nowhere..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 148 ✭✭timfinnegan


    This is my favourite TV series of all time. It's an absolutely stunning production and has everything in it, gritty realism, great dialogue, superb acting, humour, fab soundtrack and very true to the sad stories of people who get involved in the game. There aren't any winners in the trade, only broken lives and heartache for those left behind.

    I've watched it twice now and I enjoyed the second viewing as much as the first. It's a cautionary tale to would be gangsters that there ain't no future in the game, only a cold slab or a life behind bars.

    Thanks to everyone involved in this timeless drama.


  • Posts: 18,089 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    walshb wrote: »
    .....

    Annoying part is Fran: at the start his character was great. Dark, rash, impulsive and fearless...

    Within an episode or two it’s the cringe coola boola sh1te and his tongue up Nidge’s ass. Came out of nowhere..

    Moving from importing cigarettes to dealing with importing class A drugs..... Different pond.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,415 ✭✭✭trashcan


    This is my favourite TV series of all time. It's an absolutely stunning production and has everything in it, gritty realism, great dialogue, superb acting, humour, fab soundtrack and very true to the sad stories of people who get involved in the game. There aren't any winners in the trade, only broken lives and heartache for those left behind.

    I've watched it twice now and I enjoyed the second viewing as much as the first. It's a cautionary tale to would be gangsters that there ain't no future in the game, only a cold slab or a life behind bars.

    Thanks to everyone involved in this timeless drama.

    If you'd said Irish series I'd have been with you all the way, but best ever ? Watch the Wire. I mean it's head and shoulders above anything else produced in this country, but it did I take time to find its feet. The characters of Darren and John Boy never convinced me either. It really came into its own when Nidge took centre stage.

    Just watched the scene tonight where Hughie shoots himself in the head. An iconic moment. But I feel that Brian Gleesons performance was so good that perhaps it was a waste of his character. He played the unhinged gurrier to perfection.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,280 ✭✭✭✭Galwayguy35


    I always thought Rob Sheehan was miscast in the role of Darren, he was too much of a pretty boy to be credible as a gangster.


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 36,107 Mod ✭✭✭✭pickarooney


    I always thought Rob Sheehan was miscast in the role of Darren, he was too much of a pretty boy to be credible as a gangster.

    I never understood this criticism.
    Nobody uses it against Idris Elba in the Wire


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,438 ✭✭✭✭MrStuffins


    I never understood this criticism.
    Nobody uses it against Idris Elba in the Wire

    Because Idris Elba wasn't miscast.

    I agree that Sheehan didn't really fit the role, but he did what he could with it. I think he got better the further the show went along.


  • Posts: 18,089 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I never understood this criticism.
    Nobody uses it against Idris Elba in the Wire

    6 foot 3 & 16 stone....... If you saw idris on any door he'd look credible.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,161 ✭✭✭✭Ash.J.Williams


    MrStuffins wrote: »
    Because Idris Elba wasn't miscast.

    I agree that Sheehan didn't really fit the role, but he did what he could with it. I think he got better the further the show went along.

    There’s lads over in the Gangland thread would disagree as they would hold Mago Gately in the same way as Robert Sheehan


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  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 36,107 Mod ✭✭✭✭pickarooney


    Augeo wrote: »
    6 foot 3 & 16 stone....... If you saw idris on any door he'd look credible.

    The point was about looks, not size.
    And gang membership, not bouncing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,046 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    My Virgin Horizon box didn't pick up the episode broadcast on Friday night. And when I check the schedule for next Friday, there's no sign of Love Hate at all.

    Any ideas what's going on there?


  • Posts: 18,089 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    The point was about looks, not size.
    And gang membership, not bouncing.

    What do gang members / hardened criminals look like?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 91,386 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    Monday the 6th of July at around 11pm has series 2 starting


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 148 ✭✭timfinnegan


    trashcan wrote: »
    If you'd said Irish series I'd have been with you all the way, but best ever ? Watch the Wire. I mean it's head and shoulders above anything else produced in this country, but it did I take time to find its feet. The characters of Darren and John Boy never convinced me either. It really came into its own when Nidge took centre stage.

    Just watched the scene tonight where Hughie shoots himself in the head. An iconic moment. But I feel that Brian Gleesons performance was so good that perhaps it was a waste of his character. He played the unhinged gurrier to perfection.

    I've seen The Wire and no doubt it's a great series, compulsive viewing. I couldn't get enough of the episodes when I first started watching and it was a fresh way of showing the game, from the different stratums of society involved. I felt it dipped a little in quality by the time the series got to the Polish dockers, but it's right up there for sure.

    I'd personally have The Sopranos ahead of it, which is unsurpassed by anything IMO. This is the benchmark for any drama, almost Everest like in the standard it consistently achieved. I always felt that even though it was a series focussing on the Mafia, the actual storylines could be parables for any large organisation. Of course it had everything and then some, musical score, dialogue etc...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,503 ✭✭✭✭Mad_maxx


    I always thought Rob Sheehan was miscast in the role of Darren, he was too much of a pretty boy to be credible as a gangster.

    + 100


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,503 ✭✭✭✭Mad_maxx


    trashcan wrote: »
    If you'd said Irish series I'd have been with you all the way, but best ever ? Watch the Wire. I mean it's head and shoulders above anything else produced in this country, but it did I take time to find its feet. The characters of Darren and John Boy never convinced me either. It really came into its own when Nidge took centre stage.

    Just watched the scene tonight where Hughie shoots himself in the head. An iconic moment. But I feel that Brian Gleesons performance was so good that perhaps it was a waste of his character. He played the unhinged gurrier to perfection.

    i had never seen that bit where he offs himself by mistake , i burst out laughing at the absurdity of it , i know he was off this head on coke all of the time but it was still redicolous , i didnt like the hughie character and it was redicolous that him and aiden gillen were brothers , he was annoying , brainless and such a loose cannon , you could do nothing for fear he would freak out , kind of guy who had to die


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,684 ✭✭✭dirkmeister


    Mad_maxx wrote: »
    i had never seen that bit where he offs himself by mistake , i burst out laughing at the absurdity of it , i know he was off this head on coke all of the time but it was still redicolous


    That very thing happened to one of the Collopys in Limerick.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,852 ✭✭✭SureYWouldntYa


    Mad_maxx wrote: »
    i didnt like the hughie character and it was redicolous that him and aiden gillen were brothers

    Half brothers iirc, and it was presented as a bit mad at least from John Boys POV on many occassions


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 91,386 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    The wedding aisle dance up was cringey but funny


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 91,386 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    I always thought Rob Sheehan was miscast in the role of Darren, he was too much of a pretty boy to be credible as a gangster.

    Most of them are all weak skinny pretty boys, who are hardy when drugged up with guns


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,787 ✭✭✭el diablo


    That very thing happened to one of the Collopys in Limerick.

    That's Limerick though.

    Orange pilled.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,731 ✭✭✭✭rob316


    I always thought Rob Sheehan was miscast in the role of Darren, he was too much of a pretty boy to be credible as a gangster.

    True, but its a TV show, you need characters to root for. If they were all Fran's and Nidges, the show wouldn't have been as good. More realistic sure, but it needed to appeal to an audience and Darren was a character you could root for.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,503 ✭✭✭✭Mad_maxx


    That very thing happened to one of the Collopys in Limerick.

    Pity it was only one


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 58,825 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    I always thought Rob Sheehan was miscast in the role of Darren, he was too much of a pretty boy to be credible as a gangster.

    His pretty boy looks weren't really the issue....

    His acting/portrayal was pretty poor....he did not come across at all consistent...and not at all gangsterish!

    Similar to Gillen, who for some fooked up reason seems to think he's Al Pacino or something; dreadful actor....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,046 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    I'm really enjoying it this time round. Series 1 and 2 were fairly low profile at the time, and didn't get mass attention until later. I'm getting so much humour this time, reminiscent of the Sopranos in ways. It was very well written.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,303 ✭✭✭C__MC


    John boy completely lost it
    How could he trust tommy of all people to tackle fran


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,046 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    Best line this week, from Nidge to Linda, as they're getting ready to bounce around:

    Linda: Do you want to have a shower together?
    Nidge: I've already had a shower today.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,316 ✭✭✭MrCostington


    Hi am just watching this for the first time on the RTE player, so am not going to read this thread for the answer due to spoilers.

    So watched last show is the second serious (John Boy's funeral etc).

    I got a bit distracted by a text so may have missed it, but how did Rosie know Darren 'clipped' Stumpy, and/or John Boy?

    Oh another question from the same episode. Why did Nidge warn off John Boy's finincial advisor guy from helping the daughter? Because he (Nidge) stole the money, worried about CAB, or something else?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,445 ✭✭✭✭Sardonicat


    Hi am just watching this for the first time on the RTE player, so am not going to read this thread for the answer due to spoilers.

    So watched last show is the second serious (John Boy's funeral etc).

    I got a bit distracted by a text so may have missed it, but how did Rosie know Darren 'clipped' Stumpy, and/or John Boy?

    Oh another question from the same episode. Why did Nidge warn off John Boy's finincial advisor guy from helping the daughter? Because he (Nidge) stole the money, worried about CAB, or something else?

    I think Rosie knew because she's not stupid. She knew all along just couldn't admit it to herself. Also, people talk.

    In answer to the second question, Nidge answered it himself. The gang made that money so a far as he was concerned it belonged to them -him, as John Boy's right hand man. And obviously he wouldn't want CAB snooping into it. They were already all over John Boy before he was killed.


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