Masks

rubadub · 21-07-2020 12:13AM

Galwayguy35 wrote: »

Are shops allowed do that when the leglisation hasn't been passed yet?

Some turn away people in pyjamas. If you turned up in a Borat mankini you might be refused too, though they might not be specifically in law.

People keep acting like there is something new about refusing people. I have been on several buses which stopped for ages for gardai to arrive to remove smokers or drunks.

Paddygreen wrote: »

I didn’t pay for Kung fu lessons for nothing.

"kung fu" is that you granny?!

Overheal · 21-07-2020 12:22AM

No: I don't care enough

Surely this should end the thread, if Donald Trump has even acquiesced to wearing one what is your valid excuse?

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1285299379746811915?s=20

Charles Babbage · 21-07-2020 01:17AM

No: I don't care enough

Perhaps Trump read the report from the University of California, San Francisco, says that masks can reduce the amount of virus that gets into someone’s system, meaning they do not get as badly sick.
The paper is due to be published in the Journal of Internal Medicine but was made available in advance by the researchers. Monica Gandhi, one of the study’s co-authors, who is associate division chief of the infectious diseases programme at San Francisco General Hospital, said: “You will get in a lower dose of virus if you wear a mask and are exposed to Covid-19 and are very likely to have mild or no symptoms.

Paddygreen · 21-07-2020 01:59AM

No: I will wait for the HSE to recommend

Miike wrote: »

I don't think anyone thinks hand sanitizer KEEPS hands clean. It sanitizes them once you use it, if you touch something you're no longer 'clean'. You sanitize your hands and then put the mask on, leaving it on. There is no need to be taking it off and putting it on like a whores knickers. To take it off, you sanitize your hands, remove the mask, sanitize again. I don't understand the body of your post to be honest.

I put on my mask before I leave the house along with putting on a new pair of blue gloves. When I return I remove my clothes in my decontamination tent, take off my blue gloves and use a strategically placed hook on the wall to remove my mask. Straight into the shower for a scrub a dub dub, then down to the decontamination tent with a litter picker to retrieve my clothes and mask to place them into the adjacent washing machine for a 90c wash. I’m cleaner than a snooker ball.

Tokyo · 21-07-2020 03:45AM

Paddygreen wrote: »

I put on my mask before I leave the house along with putting on a new pair of blue gloves. When I return I remove my clothes in my decontamination tent, take off my blue gloves and use a strategically placed hook on the wall to remove my mask. Straight into the shower for a scrub a dub dub, then down to the decontamination tent with a litter picker to retrieve my clothes and mask to place them into the adjacent washing machine for a 90c wash. I’m cleaner than a snooker ball.

Mod: Stop winding people up.

Rjd2 · 21-07-2020 04:31AM

Charles Babbage wrote: »

Perhaps Trump read the report from the University of California, San Francisco, says that masks can reduce the amount of virus that gets into someone’s system, meaning they do not get as badly sick.
.

More likely he finally realised his most important demographic seniors were abandoning him in the polls who are also the group most at risk when it comes to the virus and and the least he could do after last few months was to try and encourage mask wearing.

weldoninhio · 21-07-2020 08:23AM

No: I will wait for the HSE to recommend

Paddygreen wrote: »

I pitched this idea to one of my minority friends and he thought it was a great idea despite having a poor grasp of English- citizens rainbow mask patrol, masked confronters who give up a few hours a day to patrol for mask compliance. There are plenty of activists at a loose end since the climate emergency stopped getting the same coverage that could ensure mask compliance for the greater good.

Like a kind of mask stasi??

B.A._Baracus · 21-07-2020 08:38AM

Yes: to protect others

Some wind up merchants the last few pages on here :pac:

But am on Dublin Bus right now and most people wearing masks actually. Slowly being accepted by people that you have to.

Seanergy · 21-07-2020 10:10AM

Yes: valved

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Seanergy · 21-07-2020 10:13AM

Yes: valved

A good read in the Washington post about Peter Tsai, the inventor of N95 masks.

The retired inventor of N95 masks is back at work, mostly for free, to fight covid-19.

“If I can have this opportunity to help the community, then it will be a good memory for the rest of my life,” Tsai said. “I’m happy to do it.”

Elmer Blooker · 21-07-2020 12:12PM

B.A._Baracus wrote: »

Some wind up merchants the last few pages on here :pac:

But am on Dublin Bus right now and most people wearing masks actually. Slowly being accepted by people that you have to.

'accepted' ? People have been bullied and intimidated into wearing masks and heres the proof. In the supermarket on Saturday the majority were NOT wearing masks, today the majority WERE wearing masks.
Obviously people are under the impression that they will not be allowed into supermarkets without a mask such was the fear campaign from the media - I just walked in.
I find the psychology of this mask wearing very interesting, you would think that the human survival self preservation instinct would make people WANT to wear them and not be forced into wearing them.

odyssey06 · 21-07-2020 12:29PM

Elmer Blooker wrote: »

'accepted' ? People have been bullied and intimidated into wearing masks and heres the proof. In the supermarket on Saturday the majority were NOT wearing masks, today the majority WERE wearing masks.
Obviously people are under the impression that they will not be allowed into supermarkets without a mask such was the fear campaign from the media - I just walked in.
I find the psychology of this mask wearing very interesting, you would think that the human survival self preservation instinct would make people WANT to wear them and not be forced into wearing them.

You could say the same about smoking on buses... shouldn't human survival self-preservation have made people stop?
But no, we needed laws as well as information campaigns to bring the habit to an end in enclosed public spaces. Was that bullying and intimidation? Does it matter?
We needed them to stop inflicting their second-hand smoke on their fellow passengers. Doesn't matter what you call it.
And the second part is more relevant as you are being asked to wear a mask to protect others. It is not your mask that protects you directly.

Rather it is the mask that your fellow shopper wears that protects you - from their droplets.

And ps the instinct for self preservation wasn't enough for the kind of person who still thought they could drive home after a night of pints

Ben Done · 21-07-2020 12:47PM

Don't think I've posted in this thread before, but it's incredible that it has dragged on so long, with people seeing to politicise a simple public health measure, deny the science and put people's health in danger for some type of 'own the libs' victory.

In fact, it's not incredible, on reflection.
Not even surprising.

Any political thread on here that isn't heavily moderated has been infected with the same virus that has poisoned discussion and turned this Irish website into a carbon copy what you see on Twitter and Reddit etc - trolls and FUD-merchants, Useful Idiots amplifying disinformation and misinformation, straight from the Kremlin's play book.

It's reminiscent of the anti-vax movement, carries a similar risk to public health, and it has also made much of this website unreadable - anyone who has ventured into almost any Current Affairs thread will know that.

Thankfully, due to what must be incredibly tedious work on behalf of meaningful debate, the mods in the Politics forum call out this sh1te, and ban repeat offenders.

The trolls are not engaging in good faith, and you're wasting your time debating them, and in fact you're doing their bidding,
I haven't read every page of this thread, but every anti-mask post I've read has confirmed this.

Sconsey · 21-07-2020 12:54PM

No: other

Elmer Blooker wrote: »

'accepted' ? People have been bullied and intimidated into wearing masks and heres the proof. In the supermarket on Saturday the majority were NOT wearing masks, today the majority WERE wearing masks.
Obviously people are under the impression that they will not be allowed into supermarkets without a mask such was the fear campaign from the media - I just walked in.
I find the psychology of this mask wearing very interesting, you would think that the human survival self preservation instinct would make people WANT to wear them and not be forced into wearing them.

I think a lot of the psychology is there is not always a direct benefit to the wearer, masks are more about protecting those around you than protecting yourself. Selfish people can't seem to get their heads around the fact that it not all about them.

garv123 · 21-07-2020 01:34PM

Just went to a service station for lunch, at least 30 people in the shop. Only about 10 wearing masks. No enforcement yet?

is_that_so · 21-07-2020 01:42PM

No: other

garv123 wrote: »

Just went to a service station for lunch, at least 30 people in the shop. Only about 10 wearing masks. No enforcement yet?

No regulations to be enforced yet.

digzy · 21-07-2020 01:47PM

Can someone please suggest where I can buy comfy face coverings online please
I don’t want the ones that just have a little elastic around the ears.
Are kids under 7 expected to wear these too?

is_that_so · 21-07-2020 01:50PM

No: other

Sconsey wrote: »

I think a lot of the psychology is there is not always a direct benefit to the wearer, masks are more about protecting those around you than protecting yourself. Selfish people can't seem to get their heads around the fact that it not all about them.

That message doesn't work any more since it comes with a hefty fine and is now more a case of or else. Put your mask on or we'll fine you, is what other countries have done and that to me is a more honest and direct way to do it than this constant insipid fine-tuning of previous hashtags.

B.A._Baracus · 21-07-2020 02:03PM

Yes: to protect others

Elmer Blooker wrote: »

'accepted' ? People have been bullied and intimidated into wearing masks and heres the proof. In the supermarket on Saturday the majority were NOT wearing masks, today the majority WERE wearing masks.
Obviously people are under the impression that they will not be allowed into supermarkets without a mask such was the fear campaign from the media - I just walked in.
I find the psychology of this mask wearing very interesting, you would think that the human survival self preservation instinct would make people WANT to wear them and not be forced into wearing them.

I won't lie I read your reply in the voice and tone of:

:pac:

harr · 21-07-2020 02:36PM

So out and about the last few days the compliance seems good and it seems the younger people doing better , now granted some of the older people might have medical issues with wearing a mask.
My two local garages have nearly full compliance with one in particular making sure everyone is masked up .. the other is reminding people and most are then retrieving mask form car or pocket.
The bigger super value a few miles away only about half people wearing them and staff not wearing anything even on shop floor.
I think shopkeepers need to be more pro active in asking people To wear them.

wilkie2006 · 21-07-2020 02:38PM

Yes: to protect myself and others

Paddygreen wrote: »

I am proud to be a confronter. Today I confronted two antisocial types who were unmasked in a busy petrol station. I said “ you are not wearing a mask, masks are mandatory, you are not respecting people’s safe space, please obey the rules” it’s simple guys, if everyone confronted the antisocial potential spreader nodes for covid19 that would go a long way towards modifying their behavior.

What reaction did you get?

Wibbs · 21-07-2020 02:39PM

Yes: other

Sconsey wrote: »

I think a lot of the psychology is there is not always a direct benefit to the wearer, masks are more about protecting those around you than protecting yourself. Selfish people can't seem to get their heads around the fact that it not all about them.

That's some of it S, but I honestly think in more cases it's basically "I don't want to look silly wearing a mask/That's not how we do things here".

wilkie2006 · 21-07-2020 02:42PM

Yes: to protect myself and others

Galwayguy35 wrote: »

Are shops allowed do that when the leglisation hasn't been passed yet?

is_that_so wrote: »

No regulations to be enforced yet.

I thought it was law since yesterday? When is it becoming mandatory?

harr · 21-07-2020 02:49PM

wilkie2006 wrote: »

I thought it was law since yesterday? When is it becoming mandatory?

Mandatory since yesterday, currently working on legalisation. So that means you have to if asked to wear mask , but you can’t be fined or prosecuted yet.

is_that_so · 21-07-2020 03:01PM

No: other

wilkie2006 wrote: »

I thought it was law since yesterday? When is it becoming mandatory?

What they actually said was that the regulations for transport were now being extended to retail, with immediate effect, but they don't have the regulations for it, so technically it's not in force legally.

is_that_so · 21-07-2020 03:08PM

No: other

xhomelezz wrote: »

Yeah some logic there..

Well there's a lot of that type of of extreme logic floating about all over, up to people changing their clothes after shopping.

is_that_so · 21-07-2020 03:17PM

No: other

Paddygreen wrote: »

I am proud to be a confronter. Today I confronted two antisocial types who were unmasked in a busy petrol station. I said “ you are not wearing a mask, masks are mandatory, you are not respecting people’s safe space, please obey the rules” it’s simple guys, if everyone confronted the antisocial potential spreader nodes for covid19 that would go a long way towards modifying their behavior.

And in other news, two men have been arrested after a confrontation....

Elmer Blooker · 21-07-2020 03:33PM

Big crowds gathered at Walkinstown roundabout today to remember Big Jack on the day of his funeral, don't expect 'outrage' from RTE this evening as social distancing rules are ignored ....

SweetCaliber · 21-07-2020 06:39PM

Elmer Blooker wrote: »

Big crowds gathered at Walkinstown roundabout today to remember Big Jack on the day of his funeral, don't expect 'outrage' from RTE this evening as social distancing rules are ignored ....

Im a big fan of giving him a send off, but there was barely a mask in sight, plenty of cops and no social distancing and nothing being done about it. Don't understand the logic at all.

Overheal · 21-07-2020 07:02PM

No: I don't care enough

/facepalm

https://twitter.com/ProjectLincoln/status/1285617708067966979?s=20

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