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Anyone hazard a guess for when the gyms will re-open

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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    In Thailand fighters are not allowed run in the rain, for the same reason. getting cold can lead to stress on your immune system which doesn't cause but put you more at risk from a virus which otherwise wouldn't cause issues, NOW doing so as you're a bit more vulnerable. Plus hard training is stressful on your central nervous system, Sonia O Sullivan was an awful one for over training and getting sick come the day of competition apparently.

    In saying that, our bodies are like computers, constantly updating by collecting bacteria and viruses..if we keep too clean, that's just as bad apparently.
    Like another poster said, put a clean warm top on in the car or in the gym leaving..simples


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    GerryFog wrote: »
    i still can't book flyefit slots. I thought it was opening tomorrow?

    Is that Ben Dunne's. He's not opening until a vaccine is found.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,774 ✭✭✭✭Alf Veedersane


    Is that Ben Dunne's. He's not opening until a vaccine is found.

    No, Flyefit.

    From the FAQs:

    Online booking opens on MYFLYE on Sunday, 19th July.

    Log into your MYFLYE and select the Book a Gym Slot tab. You can book 1 x 75 minute ‘Gym Slot’ per day. Gym Slots can be booked 24 hours in advance. Gym Slots are 75 minutes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,673 ✭✭✭Man Vs ManUre


    rusty cole wrote: »
    In Thailand fighters are not allowed run in the rain, for the same reason. getting cold can lead to stress on your immune system which doesn't cause but put you more at risk from a virus which otherwise wouldn't cause issues, NOW doing so as you're a bit more vulnerable. Plus hard training is stressful on your central nervous system, Sonia O Sullivan was an awful one for over training and getting sick come the day of competition apparently.

    In saying that, our bodies are like computers, constantly updating by collecting bacteria and viruses..if we keep too clean, that's just as bad apparently.
    Like another poster said, put a clean warm top on in the car or in the gym leaving..simples

    Now I’m not sure why there is a need to fight the case for not being able to shower at the gym being bad, and how it will be an even bigger pain in the ass in winter if that is still the situation. But if it is, you will see people with much larger (small) gym bags being carried around inside and left to the side as they do treadmill, bike, machine etc. As they will be needing coat, extra clothes to put on leaving as you say.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Anyone know why some places seem to have steam rooms and jacuzzi's open but others don't?

    Pretty wreckless to have the like open. Have had bacterial pneumonia several times after using both. I certainly won't be entertaining further use of this germ proliferation environment.


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  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators Posts: 7,067 Mod ✭✭✭✭Sheep Shagger


    Steam rooms are a bit more risky in terms of a virus surviving on surfaces so they would need to be cleaned very regularly. Saunas are a higher temperature and usually wood surfaces so much safer.

    Jacuzzis should be ok but still need managing. Some probably think it's too much hassle to have them safely available

    Some might not really understand the risk so are safety first. That could well be down to a lack of guidance

    Yeah understand that, hard to use with a mask too!

    Thought someone earlier said their gym had them open so wondered why others had not. Anyway just glad to have the gym and pool open.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,673 ✭✭✭Man Vs ManUre


    Pretty wreckless to have the like open. Have had bacterial pneumonia several times after using both. I certainly won't be entertaining further use of this germ proliferation environment.

    As much as I am hoping for the showers to come back, I draw the line at sauna and steam room and would not use them now. Even before this virus, some people are just in a world of their own and think nothing to cough and snort in them. Finland has had low virus numbers and they are crazy for saunas, did they close down their public saunas?? Or is it mostly residential saunas there??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,774 ✭✭✭✭Alf Veedersane


    As much as I am hoping for the showers to come back, I draw the line at sauna and steam room and would not use them now. Even before this virus, some people are just in a world of their own and think nothing to cough and snort in them. Finland has had low virus numbers and they are crazy for saunas, did they close down their public saunas?? Or is it mostly residential saunas there??

    Saunas have mostly wooden (I.e. porous) surfaces and the temperature is higher so a less than hospitable environment for a virus.


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators Posts: 7,067 Mod ✭✭✭✭Sheep Shagger


    Is that Ben Dunne's. He's not opening until a vaccine is found.

    Jesus if that's true you'll be waiting till at least next year.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,774 ✭✭✭✭Alf Veedersane


    Bookings open for first 4 training slots in Flyefit tomorrow anyway.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,774 ✭✭✭✭Alf Veedersane


    Jesus if that's true you'll be waiting till at least next year.

    “I will not open my gyms because they are not safe to use at the moment and they won’t be safe to use until the Government or the medics find a solution, whether it is therapeutic or a vaccine.

    I may go bust but people’s lives matter to me. My strong view would be until there is a treatment or a vaccine it is not safe to use gyms or go into shopping centres or go into indoor buildings, I think we are playing with fire.”


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,982 ✭✭✭caviardreams


    Bookings open for first 4 training slots in Flyefit tomorrow anyway.

    I got a slot for tomorrow morning - at last! Hoping I can get a rack now!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,774 ✭✭✭✭Alf Veedersane


    I got a slot for tomorrow morning - at last! Hoping I can get a rack now!

    Yeah I'll be making sure to get there earlyish to gauge the rush for racks (assuming I get the later slot I want)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,298 ✭✭✭DareGod


    “I will not open my gyms because they are not safe to use at the moment and they won’t be safe to use until the Government or the medics find a solution, whether it is therapeutic or a vaccine.

    I may go bust but people’s lives matter to me. My strong view would be until there is a treatment or a vaccine it is not safe to use gyms or go into shopping centres or go into indoor buildings, I think we are playing with fire.”


    That's what the country needs, the "strong view" of one of the nation's most historically corrupt businessmen.
    “I will not open my gyms because they are not safe to use at the moment and they won’t be safe to use until the Government or the medics find a solution, whether it is therapeutic or a vaccine.

    I may go bust but people’s lives matter to me. My strong view would be until there is a treatment or a vaccine it is not safe to use gyms or go into shopping centres or go into indoor buildings, I think we are playing with fire.”

    And what does your scientific research show about outdoor buildings, Ben?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,398 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    That is true, but body temperature affects your immune system to fight off these viruses. Staying in a cold sweaty wet top, and I mean drenched in sweat as I do mostly long distance cardio in gym, even if only for 30mins after leaving gym, is not good for you, and will be worse in winter leading to chills and shivers.
    After sweating like crazy, you’re body temp is raised. You only feel cold as sweat is evaporating but the core temp is actually up. My granny used to say you’d catch pneumonia from wet clothes. Just old wives takes.

    There’s other reasons to shower soon after working out but catching a cold or flu isn’t one. Staph or other kind infections could be. Mainly only a risk from contact with others like in grappling. Probably a good idea to shower soon after a public steam room.
    rusty cole wrote: »
    In Thailand fighters are not allowed run in the rain, for the same reason. getting cold can lead to stress on your immune system which doesn't cause but put you more at risk from a virus which otherwise wouldn't cause issues, NOW doing so as you're a bit more vulnerable.
    The Thai’s are also very superstitious about stuff like that.
    It’s pretty warm in Thailand, and warmer during the wet season. You’d be colder during an Irish summer than running in the rain in Thailand.

    Although less likely to pick up a parasite in Ireland.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Mellor wrote: »
    After sweating like crazy, you’re body temp is raised. You only feel cold as sweat is evaporating but the core temp is actually up. My granny used to say you’d catch pneumonia from wet clothes. Just old wives takes.

    There’s other reasons to shower soon after working out but catching a cold or flu isn’t one. Staph or other kind infections could be. Mainly only a risk from contact with others like in grappling. Probably a good idea to shower soon after a public steam room.


    The Thai’s are also very superstitious about stuff like that.
    It’s pretty warm in Thailand, and warmer during the wet season. You’d be colder during an Irish summer than running in the rain in Thailand.

    Although less likely to pick up a parasite in Ireland.

    I know but there's a great chapter all about this in a book called "a fighters heart" sam sheridan goes for a light run in light rain and when he comes back he's whipped into a steaming bath and fed rice for energy. The fighters are so tightly wound that even a cool rain can get them sick.

    That's why athletes get sicker than some couch potatoes! they're like a finely tuned antennae so they pick up anything going more easily.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,702 ✭✭✭ittakestwo


    Gyms should turn off thier treadmills. Just have weights section open where users dont sweat as much. Cardio outside during the pandemic.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,468 ✭✭✭DylanJM


    ittakestwo wrote: »
    Gyms should turn off thier treadmills. Just have weights section open where users dont sweat as much. Cardio outside during the pandemic.


    And the reasoning behind this is....? Covid doesn't transmit through sweat.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,733 ✭✭✭jam_mac_jam


    ittakestwo wrote: »
    Gyms should turn off thier treadmills. Just have weights section open where users dont sweat as much. Cardio outside during the pandemic.

    You touch the weights much more with your hands so more risk I would have thought. Treadmills its just the buttons.

    Anyway your sweat mostly stays on yourself. Not like you are spraying it all over everyone.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,702 ✭✭✭ittakestwo


    But you can do cardio outside . You dont need to be in a gym. Given how numbers need to be reduced in gyms they should just turn of the treadmills. People generally dont have dumbbells and bars in thier homes so they need a gym for weights. It would be annoying if you cant get in to your gym because the quota has been met, and some are just there doing a treadmill when they could be outside.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,398 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    rusty cole wrote: »
    I know but there's a great chapter all about this in a book called "a fighters heart" sam sheridan goes for a light run in light rain and when he comes back he's whipped into a steaming bath and fed rice for energy. The fighters are so tightly wound that even a cool rain can get them sick.
    But cool rain can't make you sick. That's the point. You get sick from viruses, not the rain. A run like that wouldn't drop his body temp, if anything it reduces strain on his body as it doesn't have to work as hard to cool off.

    I've no doubt that happened to him in Thailand btw. But doesn't mean these any basis for it. Thai training is very traditional, not scientific. And there are other benefits to hot baths and extra food for a guy in fight camp.
    That's why athletes get sicker than some couch potatoes! they're like a finely tuned antennae so they pick up anything going more easily.
    What's are you basing that on?
    If they approach an overtrained state I'm sure they could get sick easily, but pretty sure athletes in general get sick less due to stronger immune systems vrs the unfit.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,240 ✭✭✭✭B.A._Baracus


    ittakestwo wrote: »
    Gyms should turn off thier treadmills. Just have weights section open where users dont sweat as much. Cardio outside during the pandemic.
    ittakestwo wrote: »
    But you can do cardio outside . You dont need to be in a gym. Given how numbers need to be reduced in gyms they should just turn of the treadmills. People generally dont have dumbbells and bars in thier homes so they need a gym for weights. It would be annoying if you cant get in to your gym because the quota has been met, and some are just there doing a treadmill when they could be outside.

    Thing is everyone uses the gym differently.
    If they stopped people from using all the cardio machines people would moan, speak out about why they should be paying for this yadda yadda. So they have to leave them on.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 361 ✭✭chancer007


    anyone there this morning? how was it?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 911 ✭✭✭FlubberJones


    Keen to hear how the first day went in any of the Flyfit gyms, I have to join a new gym and Flyfit is my closest. With Ben Dunne not opening for the next couple of months I simply have to move to another,


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,774 ✭✭✭✭Alf Veedersane


    ittakestwo wrote: »
    But you can do cardio outside . You dont need to be in a gym. Given how numbers need to be reduced in gyms they should just turn of the treadmills. People generally dont have dumbbells and bars in thier homes so they need a gym for weights. It would be annoying if you cant get in to your gym because the quota has been met, and some are just there doing a treadmill when they could be outside.

    A lot of people are more likely to do some cardio in a gym environment than they are to go for a walk. That's just how some people are wired. That's why there are always a few people using the treadmills and other cardio equipment.
    And they have every right to use the gym for the equipment that's there.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 993 ✭✭✭bigslick


    Got 7am slot for Flyefit Ranelagh today. Met at door by FF trainer who had the list of indiividuals signed up and ticked name off. Then contactless machine took temperature and away we went.

    Antibacterial sanitizer was provided (smelt strangely like tequila...) as well as anti bacterial spray for cleaning down racks, bars, weights etc after use which I saw most people doing.

    75 min slots seemed to work well. Packed at 7am but I found alot of people left around the 45 min mark which left alot of racks free.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,287 ✭✭✭givyjoe


    A lot of people are more likely to do some cardio in a gym environment than they are to go for a walk. That's just how some people are wired. That's why there are always a few people using the treadmills and other cardio equipment.
    And they have every right to use the gym for the equipment that's there.

    It's not about rights, it's about what works and doesn't work during a pandemic. Folks huffing and puffing, blowing aerosols all over the place (which they'll do far more of over a sustained period doing cardio) isn't ideal considering how the virus spreads. Masks should really be made mandatory at this point.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,774 ✭✭✭✭Alf Veedersane


    givyjoe wrote: »
    It's not about rights, it's about what works and doesn't work during a pandemic. Folks huffing and puffing, blowing aerosols all over the place (which they'll do far more of over a sustained period doing cardio) isn't ideal considering how the virus spreads. Masks should really be made mandatory at this point.

    They're separate points. Make them wear masks and allow access to machines.

    Plenty of people huffing and puffing in racks as well.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,287 ✭✭✭givyjoe


    They're separate points. Make them wear masks and allow access to machines.

    Plenty of people huffing and puffing in racks as well.

    Yes, but clearly no where near as much or as sustained. Racks are much more spread out due to their size. Masks and intense cardio don't mix too well unfortunately.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17 sheep26


    I think august a well


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