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Covid19 Part XIX-25,802 in ROI (1,753 deaths) 5,859 in NI (556 deaths) (21/07)Read OP

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  • #8612
    niallo27
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,142 ✭✭✭✭niallo27


    Danzy wrote: »
    When it is rising it shows a greater risk to us, that makes it newsworthy.

    Human nature is human nature.

    Fair enough.


  • #8613
    ShineOn7
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,550 ✭✭✭ShineOn7


    I'm keeping an eye on the UAE and what they're doing as I've a family member in Abu Dhabi

    https://www.khaleejtimes.com/coronavirus-pandemic/coronavirus-uae-reports-211-new-covid-19-cases-352-recoveries-1-death

    211 cases out of 47,000 tests which I've worked out as 0.45% positivity rate

    Given how well the UAE have reacted to this since March (at one stage you needed a permission slip to go shopping) and given that they've a positivity rate of 0.45%, I think Ireland's 0.3% is pretty excellent

    The thing is though, they're all but fully back open now. And, after a fresh spike, numbers are coming back down again without the need for another lockdown

    I do worry that, given how social the Irish are, if we can manage to get our numbers down again quickly if there's another spike


  • #8614
    Boggles
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42,959 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    ShineOn7 wrote: »
    I'm keeping an eye on the UAE and what they're doing as I've a family member in Abu Dhabi

    https://www.khaleejtimes.com/coronavirus-pandemic/coronavirus-uae-reports-211-new-covid-19-cases-352-recoveries-1-death

    211 cases out of 47,000 tests which I've worked out as 0.45% positivity rate

    Given how well the UAE have reacted to this since March (at one stage you needed a permission slip to go shopping) and given that they've a positivity rate of 0.45%, I think Ireland's 0.3% is pretty excellent

    The thing is though, they're all but fully back open now. And, after a fresh spike, numbers are coming back down again without the need for another lockdown

    I do worry that, given how social the Irish are, if we can manage to get our numbers down again quickly if there's another spike

    Fúcking Hell.

    4.5 million tests out of a population of less than 10 million.

    Has to be the most accurate data on the planet.


  • #8615
    gizmo23
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 185 ✭✭gizmo23


    ShineOn7 wrote: »
    I'm keeping an eye on the UAE and what they're doing as I've a family member in Abu Dhabi

    https://www.khaleejtimes.com/coronavirus-pandemic/coronavirus-uae-reports-211-new-covid-19-cases-352-recoveries-1-death

    211 cases out of 47,000 tests which I've worked out as 0.45% positivity rate

    Given how well the UAE have reacted to this since March (at one stage you needed a permission slip to go shopping) and given that they've a positivity rate of 0.45%, I think Ireland's 0.3% is pretty excellent

    The thing is though, they're all but fully back open now. And, after a fresh spike, numbers are coming back down again without the need for another lockdown

    I do worry that, given how social the Irish are, if we can manage to get our numbers down again quickly if there's another spike

    Tbh I think it's because of the irish people numbers are so low.... the old adage of it take 100 good things for one person to speak good about you but only take 1 bad thing for a 100 people to speak bad about you rings true....

    In my experience irish people by nature are compliment we moan and grumble but we do what's asked. Yes you have the 1% of idiot's but I have very very little doubt that when push comes to shove the irish people will do what's asked.

    The pictures on social media are a small minority and yes it sucks but unfortunately you will always have that... it's the same with pushing pubs opening to the 10th I have no doubt that's to avoid the bank holiday the problem is people who were going to act the c##t that weekend will do it a week or two later.


  • #8616
    charlie14
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,110 ✭✭✭✭charlie14


    Hego Damask wrote: »
    At what stage is the cure worse then the disease tho ?
    How many people will be homeless, starving, serious mental health issues, suicide rates will skyrocket...

    Sweden seem to have had the right idea, overall they are on a gradual decrease, and their death rate is way way less then the likes of Spain and Italy that had very strict lockdowns.


    Except it isn`t.
    Deaths per 100,000 in Italy are 58.01 and in Spain 60.54.
    Sweden is just below Italy at 54.67 and closing that gap.
    The other three Nordic countries who used lockdown and have more in common with Sweden. Denmark 10.51, Finland 5.94 and Norway 4.77


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  • #8617
    timsey tiger
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,599 ✭✭✭timsey tiger


    Danzy wrote: »
    When it is rising it shows a greater risk to us, that makes it newsworthy.

    Human nature is human nature.

    The mentioned it a lot as it dropped after the peak too. Mundane reality is they bring it up when it changes significantly up or down.


  • #8618
    timsey tiger
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,599 ✭✭✭timsey tiger


    Boggles wrote: »
    Fúcking Hell.

    4.5 million tests out of a population of less than 10 million.

    Has to be the most accurate data on the planet.

    You'd kind of think that that is a case of too much money and political considerations driving the testing and not actual scientific method.


  • #8619
    ShineOn7
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,550 ✭✭✭ShineOn7


    Boggles wrote: »
    Fúcking Hell.

    4.5 million tests out of a population of less than 10 million.

    Has to be the most accurate data on the planet.


    Where does that article say UAE have done 4.5 million tests? I can't see it

    They've said here though that they will test 2 million of their 10 million population over the next 8 weeks https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-emirates/uae-says-it-will-test-2-million-people-for-covid-19-as-cases-rise-idUSKBN2480M5


  • #8620
    Boggles
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42,959 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    timsey tiger wrote: »
    You'd kind of think that that is a case of too much money and political considerations driving the testing and not actual scientific method.

    :confused:

    Ah no, if you can test at that rate constantly that is the preferred scientific method.


  • #8621
    Boggles
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42,959 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    ShineOn7 wrote: »
    Where does that article say UAE have done 4.5 million tests? I can't see it

    Worldometer.


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  • #8622
    bodhrandude
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,080 ✭✭✭✭bodhrandude


    If things couldn't get any better, I know its the Mirror but FFS! We're apparently due a plague of flying ants in a fortnight.

    If you want to get into it, you got to get out of it. (Hawkwind 1982)



  • #8623
    Boggles
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42,959 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    bodhrandude wrote: »
    If things couldn't get any better, I know its the Mirror but FFS! We're apparently due a plague of flying ants in a fortnight.
    The insects take to the skies around this time every year for mating season in a phenomenon known as Flying Ant Day

    Absolutely no imagination but into naming that phenomenon.


  • #8624
    ShineOn7
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,550 ✭✭✭ShineOn7


    Boggles wrote: »
    Worldometer.


    Cool

    It's generally reliable?

    I thought I'd read mixed things on here about it a few months back


  • #8625
    Non solum non ambulabit
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,089 ✭✭✭Non solum non ambulabit


    bodhrandude wrote: »
    If things couldn't get any better, I know its the Mirror but FFS! We're apparently due a plague of flying ants in a fortnight.

    That feels like a UK story that has been adapted for the Irish Mirror.


  • #8626
    Strumms
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,497 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    Gruffalox wrote: »
    Last year 150 people died on Irish roads, including those in cars, plus pedestrians and cyclists.

    Yes correct. And 1753 (so far) have been killed by covid. About 92.5% more than killed on Irish roads in the entirety of last year... and, it’s only July.


  • #8627
    ShineOn7
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,550 ✭✭✭ShineOn7


    bodhrandude wrote: »
    If things couldn't get any better, I know its the Mirror but FFS! We're apparently due a plague of flying ants in a fortnight.


    That vid below with the oul lad and the caption "How to rid your house of flying ants" :pac:

    Have the media ever been more in full on Fear Porn mode in their history? 9/11 was maybe the closest

    They're starting to get hilarious, almost like parody websites


  • #8628
    ACitizenErased
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,857 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    Does anyone know what's going on in Portugal? They haven't had a day <100 since May...
    https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/portugal/


  • #8629
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 10,049 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    ShineOn7 wrote: »
    Thanks

    So we're at 20 on average a day now and were at just 8 cases a day three weeks ago

    Early signs of exponential growth?

    Isn't that how this bástard works? A slow creep up and slow doubling of numbers until there's a massive spike?

    Looks pretty linear, which to me indicates it’s well controlled


  • #8630
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 10,049 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    bb1234567 wrote: »
    https://www.jpost.com/health-science/israeli-doctor-reinfected-with-coronavirus-3-months-after-recovering-635550

    An Israeli Doctor experienced symptoms in April and tested positive, then recovered and tested negative in both May and June. They now have tested positive again in July after close contact with covid patients.The hospital reports two other cases of patients recovering and testing negative and then coming back to the hospital with symptoms and testing positive.

    Not worth getting too excited about yet, but something to keep an eye on, it may suggest that immunity only lasts a couple of months for certain individuals.

    With most illnesses there may always be a small number of people who recover but don’t develop or retain resistance.


  • #8631
    Beasty
    Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 78,499 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    Boggles wrote: »
    Absolutely no imagination but into naming that phenomenon.

    It's a FAD....


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  • #8632
    growleaves
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,049 ✭✭✭growleaves


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Looks pretty linear, which to me indicates it’s well controlled

    What about the flying ants though? They could be headed this way.


  • #8633
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 10,049 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Strumms wrote: »
    Yes correct. And 1753 (so far) have been killed by covid. About 92.5% more than killed on Irish roads in the entirety of last year... and, it’s only July.

    More like 1200% more


  • #8634
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 10,049 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    growleaves wrote: »
    What about the flying ants though? They could be headed this way.

    Flying ants who will breath in COVID droplets and spread it around the country


  • #8635
    Eod100
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,432 ✭✭✭✭Eod100


    Looking like green list will be delayed until later in the week so.

    https://twitter.com/SeanDefoe/status/1284945660383559680


  • #8636
    niallo27
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,142 ✭✭✭✭niallo27


    Anyone see all these Facebook pictures of the beach's in clare today, people looking for a reaction. The comments are a lot different from a month or so back. At least 50% are saying its outside, great to see people enjoying themselves, most are social distancing, calm the **** down. We were told to staycation but some people still have an issue with this.


  • #8637
    charlie14
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,110 ✭✭✭✭charlie14


    ShineOn7 wrote: »
    Cool

    It's generally reliable?

    I thought I'd read mixed things on here about it a few months back


    For new cases and total deaths it is very reliable.
    The daily cases can be off at times because they post the figure released by authorities on a particular day where some may be historical for previous days.


  • #8638
    ShineOn7
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,550 ✭✭✭ShineOn7


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Flying ants who will breath in COVID droplets and spread it around the country


    ... and ride Yore Ma when you're not looking


  • #8639
    JP Liz V1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 92,394 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    https://www.independent.ie/world-news/north-america/no-one-needs-to-die-from-covid-19-any-more-claims-american-doctor-39377803.html
    The combination of cortisone steroid, vitamins and anticoagulants is helping combat the two biggest dangers of the virus - inflammation and clotting - and the Math+ Protocol even managed to help a 92-year-old Covid-19 sufferer undergoing chemotherapy for colon cancer.

    "We learned so much in a few months," said Dr Varon, who has treated more than 200 coronavirus patients.

    "No one needs to die from coronavirus any more," he said.


  • #8640
    ShineOn7
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,550 ✭✭✭ShineOn7


    JP Liz V1 wrote: »
    https://www.independent.ie/world-news/north-america/no-one-needs-to-die-from-covid-19-any-more-claims-american-doctor-39377803.html


    Highly effective treatments will win this. Not a vaccine

    I firmly believe this


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  • #8641
    bb1234567
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,513 ✭✭✭bb1234567


    JP Liz V1 wrote: »
    https://www.independent.ie/world-news/north-america/no-one-needs-to-die-from-covid-19-any-more-claims-american-doctor-39377803.html

    I'll believe it when I see it being utilised by other doctors, other hospitals, and in other countries. Seen literally dozens of identical claims by international doctors in recent months about some wonder cure that for some reason is never implemented across the world,then complete silence and you never heard a word about it again. Which is odd and would be wasteful if it's as effective and foolproof as claimed, which makes me think they usually aren't!


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