Covid19 Part XIX-25,802 in ROI (1,753 deaths) 5,859 in NI (556 deaths) (21/07)Read OP

Rob A. Bank · 19-07-2020 05:36PM

Ineedaname wrote: »

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-020-2550-z

A recent study in Singapore that showed people infected by SARS in 2003 still possess virus specific T-cells. A full 17 years later.

Whether or not that would offer full immunity is debatable but they would definitely have some protection.

On the other hand, the immunity induced by the human coronaviruses which cause the common cold lasts less than a year on average.

Time is the only thing which will tell how long the immunity to Covid-19 lasts.

Bit cynical · 19-07-2020 05:37PM

Daily new cases generally rising in Ireland for the last 2.5 weeks so though from a very low level. This coincides with phase 3 reopening at the end of June. The recent guidelines on masks may curb this rise if people take heed.

podgeandrodge · 19-07-2020 05:44PM

Can they not breakdown the Community transmission a bit and tell people who is getting it from where? They know this now surely? Ot is it already published somewhere?

ACitizenErased · 19-07-2020 05:47PM

podgeandrodge wrote: »

Can they not breakdown the Community transmission a bit and tell people who is getting it from where? They know this now surely? Ot is it already published somewhere?

Community transmission = they dont know where they get it from

podgeandrodge · 19-07-2020 05:53PM

ok duh sorry yes! Not thinking. I guess I meant that they would have some ideas of the likely locations but perhaps not!

Apart from house parties and karoke microphones!

JP Liz V1 · 19-07-2020 05:55PM

podgeandrodge wrote: »

ok duh sorry yes! I guess I meant that they would have some ideas of the likely locations but perhaps not!

Apart from house parties and karoke microphones!

Is karaoke still a thing, probably yes more now in house parties

Strumms · 19-07-2020 06:08PM

Strazdas wrote: »

Some people are very claustrophobic and hate the feeling of anything covering their mouth. Their distress is real.

It will be very fûckin real if it’s an oxygen mask as opposed to a covid mask.

US2 · 19-07-2020 06:19PM

Strumms wrote: »

It will be very fûckin real if it’s an oxygen mask as opposed to a covid mask.

You do realise the tiny, tiny percentage of the population that needed an oxygen mask. Do you have this level of fear going for a walk or spin in your car or bike, because your more likely to end up on life support or dead doing that

Micky 32 · 19-07-2020 06:30PM

YellowBucket wrote: »

I'm always a bit iffy about Sunday reports. Let's hope this is a sharply downward trend over the next few days.

Well just compare results to previous Sundays from when it all began.

Danzy · 19-07-2020 06:31PM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

Worth nothing also the previous Sundays before weekend lag is mentioned. We'll only know if there is any lag once testing figures are released

https://twitter.com/gavreilly/status/1284887012500213762?s=19

Very true but at least they are lagging in the right direction.

YellowBucket · 19-07-2020 06:31PM

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

Is karaoke still a thing, probably yes more now in house parties

With the right setup - separate booths and a whole lot of cleaning, Karaoke could be extremely safe. It might not be much fun though.

Gruffalux · 19-07-2020 06:32PM

US2 wrote: »

You do realise the tiny, tiny percentage of the population that needed an oxygen mask. Do you have this level of fear going for a walk or spin in your car or bike, because your more likely to end up on life support or dead doing that

Last year 150 people died on Irish roads, including those in cars, plus pedestrians and cyclists.

ShineOn7 · 19-07-2020 06:32PM

Always_Running wrote: »

By my count 143 cases the last 7 days which works out as 20 cases a day. 2 less deaths than last week also.

Thanks for those stats

Does anyone know how this compares to last week and the week before/

I think weekly trends are what we should be looking at. Daily ones are too erratic

ShineOn7 · 19-07-2020 06:36PM

US2 wrote: »

You do realise the tiny, tiny percentage of the population that needed an oxygen mask.

What % of those in Ireland needed oxygen treatment?

What % of those in Ireland needed ventalation treatment?

niallo27 · 19-07-2020 06:36PM

Why no mention of this famous R number when the cases decrease in the media, it was the buzz word the start of the week and now have we just forgotten about it.

Jim_Hodge · 19-07-2020 06:38PM

ShineOn7 wrote: »

Thanks for those stats

Does anyone know how this compares to last week and the week before/

I think weekly trends are what we should be looking at. Daily ones are too erratic

7 day average :
12th July = 15
5th July = 13
28th June = 8

Micky 32 · 19-07-2020 06:40PM

niallo27 wrote: »

Why no mention of this famous R number when the cases decrease in the media, it was the buzz word the start of the week and now have we just forgotten about it.

I noticed on the news this eve after the 10 cases were revealed the focus was then put on the we’re all doomed over 14 million worldwide cases.

ShineOn7 · 19-07-2020 06:44PM

Jim_Hodge wrote: »

7 day average :
12th July = 15
5th July = 13
28th June = 8

Thanks

So we're at 20 on average a day now and were at just 8 cases a day three weeks ago

Early signs of exponential growth?

Isn't that how this bástard works? A slow creep up and slow doubling of numbers until there's a massive spike?

podgeandrodge · 19-07-2020 06:50PM

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

Is karaoke still a thing, probably yes more now in house parties

Must still be! Thought it was in Dublin, but actually up north:

https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/health/coronavirus/limavady-covid-19-spike-linked-to-microphone-passed-around-at-house-party-karaoke-session-39374670.html

wadacrack · 19-07-2020 06:50PM

niallo27 wrote: »

Why no mention of this famous R number when the cases decrease in the media, it was the buzz word the start of the week and now have we just forgotten about it.

The 7 day average is rising. It would'nt just take one day of low cases to lower it.

Ficheall · 19-07-2020 06:51PM

US2 wrote: »

Do you have this level of fear going for a walk or spin in your car or bike, because your more likely to end up on life support or dead doing that

Don't suppose you'd happen to have anything resembling some evidence to back that up, would you?

niallo27 · 19-07-2020 06:53PM

wadacrack wrote: »

The 7 day average is rising. It would'nt just take one day of low cases to lower it.

Why aren't they quoting it so, what is the figure if anyone has it. Of course the numbers are rising we came out of a major lockdown. They went from nearly none a day to almost none a day.

Jim_Hodge · 19-07-2020 06:53PM

niallo27 wrote: »

Why no mention of this famous R number when the cases decrease in the media, it was the buzz word the start of the week and now have we just forgotten about it.

They don't calculate and announce the R0 on a daily basis, that would be madness.

bb1234567 · 19-07-2020 06:57PM

https://www.jpost.com/health-science/israeli-doctor-reinfected-with-coronavirus-3-months-after-recovering-635550

An Israeli Doctor experienced symptoms in April and tested positive, then recovered and tested negative in both May and June. They now have tested positive again in July after close contact with covid patients.The hospital reports two other cases of patients recovering and testing negative and then coming back to the hospital with symptoms and testing positive.

Not worth getting too excited about yet, but something to keep an eye on, it may suggest that immunity only lasts a couple of months for certain individuals.

KathleenGrant · 19-07-2020 06:57PM

schmoo2k wrote: »

Male or Female friends out of curiosity?

Only one male Rest are female. One person actually said the words
"they'll be telling us to wear yellow stars on our coats yet"
Another great statement:
"My grandfather died in 1916 to guarantee me the freedom to chose"
I tried to tell her her grandfather was on the losing side in 1916 but she was having none of it.

timsey tiger · 19-07-2020 06:57PM

Jim_Hodge wrote: »

They don't calculate and announce the R0 on a daily basis, that would be madness.

I'm not sure the poster wanted an answer to that question, I think he is just venting a bit of frustration, mustn't have learned to do it when he was two.

timsey tiger · 19-07-2020 07:01PM

bb1234567 wrote: »

https://www.jpost.com/health-science/israeli-doctor-reinfected-with-coronavirus-3-months-after-recovering-635550

An Israeli Doctor experienced symptoms in April and tested positive, then recovered and tested negative in both May and June. They now have tested positive again in July after close contact with covid patients.The hospital reports two other cases of patients recovering and testing negative and then coming back to the hospital with symptoms and testing positive.

Not worth getting too excited about yet, but something to keep an eye on, it may suggest that immunity only lasts a couple of months for certain individuals.

Nothing all over the world for months and now three in one hospital. Only three possibilities I can see:

1. It's an error, most likely imo.

2. It's a lie, also likely.

3. New strain, unlikely.

bb1234567 · 19-07-2020 07:07PM

timsey tiger wrote: »

Nothing all over the world for months and now three in one hospital. Only three possibilities I can see:

1. It's an error, most likely imo.

2. It's a lie, also likely.

3. New strain, unlikely.

Well,I really can't say I know much about this but I will say in most palces in the world their outbreaks were very quickly stopped by lockdowns. So if reinfection may be a real thing, and thats a big if, Israel is probably one of the first places where we would see this occur seeing as it is one of just a few places worldwide which experienced widespread infection twice in two waves. So it's not that surprising it hasnt really been reported anywhere else yet.

Regardless I agree it's more than likely some kind of an error though the length of immunity is still unknown.

niallo27 · 19-07-2020 07:07PM

Jim_Hodge wrote: »

They don't calculate and announce the R0 on a daily basis, that would be madness.

They mentioned it last Monday, Tuesday and Wednesday. If the numbers were still increasing they would continue to guesstimate it.

Danzy · 19-07-2020 07:11PM

niallo27 wrote: »

They mentioned it last Monday, Tuesday and Wednesday. If the numbers were still increasing they would continue to guesstimate it.

When it is rising it shows a greater risk to us, that makes it newsworthy.

Human nature is human nature.

Covid19 Part XIX-25,802 in ROI (1,753 deaths) 5,859 in NI (556 deaths) (21/07)Read OP

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