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Relaxation of Restrictions, Part IV - **Read OP for Mod Warnings**

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  • #8372
    charlie14
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,651 ✭✭✭✭charlie14


    pgj2015 wrote: »
    it is already happening as far as I know.


    Then they would be very foolish if a restaurant licence issued by a district court is required and they do not have one. It could easily cost them their bar licence.


  • #8373
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 4,806 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Leo already making noises that pubs might not reopen on 10th August. Stand in CMO saying nightclubs won’t open before a vaccine.

    They better hope a better country produce a vaccine soon so.


  • #8374
    gral6
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 734 ✭✭✭gral6


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Leo already making noises that pubs might not reopen on 10th August. Stand in CMO saying nightclubs won’t open before a vaccine.

    They better hope a better country produce a vaccine soon so.


    Pubs will not open till at least 2021. Poor Irish people will have to suffer because of this spineless gov which has sacrificied their lives, jobs trying to eradicate the virus what is not possible.


  • #8375
    gral6
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 734 ✭✭✭gral6


    GazzaL wrote: »
    There's a complete lack of common sense in NPHET. .

    Put each of them on 203 euro a week. We'll see then what they think


  • #8376
    MickeyLeari
    Closed Accounts Posts: 917 ✭✭✭MickeyLeari


    gral6 wrote: »
    Put each of them on 203 euro a week. We'll see then what they think

    Agree and the rural TDs will not let this go.


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  • #8377
    BattleCorp
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,867 ✭✭✭✭BattleCorp


    is_that_so wrote: »
    So you'd be much happier if nothing was open? Guidelines came via NPHET, if they aren't an authority you're certainly not!

    Have another read of what I wrote because I certainly didn't say anything of the sort.

    I neither claimed to be an authority on the matter nor did I say that everywhere should be closed.

    I said the risk is the same if you are having a pint and a meal as it is for having a pint without a meal. There's fcukall difference between the level of risk when you do either of those things.

    And regarding the guidelines from NPHET, I can have an opinion without claiming to be an authority nor did I cast doubt on the qualifications of NPHET.

    They are clearly qualified to give advice but they also can be influenced by the Government. And if it's the same level of risk having a drink with a meal as it is having a drink without a meal, it's a logical conclusion to make that the decision to open one type of establishment (with food) and keep another similar type of establishment (without food) was made on economic grounds rather than on medical grounds.


  • #8378
    bettyoleary
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 400 ✭✭bettyoleary


    gral6 wrote: »
    Put each of them on 203 euro a week. We'll see then what they think
    What are you saying unless people wont risk their lives punish them? You better hope that that govt money stays


  • #8379
    Idbatterim
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,570 ✭✭✭✭Idbatterim


    TaurenDruid wrote: »
    You've just invented Wetherspoons.

    Yes , if they also plan on selling sub three euro pints...


  • #8380
    gral6
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 734 ✭✭✭gral6


    bettyoleary wrote: »
    What are you saying unless people wont risk their lives punish them? You better hope that that govt money stays


    You think EU is gonna give you food voucher forever ? :D
    Dream on...


  • #8381
    bettyoleary
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 400 ✭✭bettyoleary


    gral6 wrote: »
    You think EU is gonna give you food voucher forever ? :D
    Dream on...
    We dont need a food voucher we need to stop travel, pubs, enclosed spaces. We did alright with supermarkets, people doing distancing. No travel. Thats whats going to stop the spread


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  • #8382
    lukas8888
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 529 ✭✭✭lukas8888


    charlie14 wrote: »
    That will not work as far as I know.
    To operate as a restaurant a publican has to apply to the district court for and be granted a restaurant certificate.

    incorrect, no special license needed.


  • #8383
    Utopia Parkway
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,029 ✭✭✭✭Utopia Parkway


    bucketybuck wrote: »
    I think this is really apparent from a lot of the people you see discussing this online, its pretty obvious that there are a lot of people with the partner at home, their social life long settled down, working from home yet still smugly pontificating about how pubs aren't needed and that people should have no problem adhering to the governments latest horse****.

    They don't really care about it, they have met their partner, they have their kids, they are happy enough with a few mates calling round for a few cans every now and then. And they feel entitled to lecture young people who have absolutely none of that and who now have lost any avenue they once had for getting any of that.

    We are taking away the youths education, their social life, their job prospects, their hobbies and basically every other thing that they have going. And then some smug prick on the internet wants to lecture them for losing hope.

    There is a fair bit of that about alright.


  • #8384
    gral6
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 734 ✭✭✭gral6


    bettyoleary wrote: »
    We dont need a food voucher we need to stop travel, pubs, enclosed spaces. We did alright with supermarkets, people doing distancing. No travel. Thats whats going to stop the spread

    I'd say you need to sober up first and get some fresh air


  • #8385
    tobefrank321
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,527 ✭✭✭tobefrank321


    bucketybuck wrote: »
    I think this is really apparent from a lot of the people you see discussing this online, its pretty obvious that there are a lot of people with the partner at home, their social life long settled down, working from home yet still smugly pontificating about how pubs aren't needed and that people should have no problem adhering to the governments latest horse****.

    They don't really care about it, they have met their partner, they have their kids, they are happy enough with a few mates calling round for a few cans every now and then. And they feel entitled to lecture young people who have absolutely none of that and who now have lost any avenue they once had for getting any of that.

    We are taking away the youths education, their social life, their job prospects, their hobbies and basically every other thing that they have going. And then some smug prick on the internet wants to lecture them for losing hope.

    Fine. Open the pubs. Have house parties every night. Open up flights to and from red zones. No isolation for visitors either.

    And watch a general lockdown arrive in about a month and those same young people end up long term unemployed with no colleges open and no career prospects.

    Or, we could sacrifice our social lives but save the economy and jobs including for the young.

    At this stage its one or the other. It can't be both.


  • #8386
    ednwireland
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,742 ✭✭✭✭ednwireland


    tobefrank321 wrote: »
    Fine. Open the pubs. Have house parties every night. Open up flights to and from red zones. No isolation for visitors either.

    we are already doing those whats your point

    My weather

    https://www.ecowitt.net/home/share?authorize=96CT1F



  • #8387
    SNNUS
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 788 ✭✭✭SNNUS


    Bravo sir / madam,

    This post sums it up.



    bucketybuck wrote: »
    I think this is really apparent from a lot of the people you see discussing this online, its pretty obvious that there are a lot of people with the partner at home, their social life long settled down, working from home yet still smugly pontificating about how pubs aren't needed and that people should have no problem adhering to the governments latest horse****.

    They don't really care about it, they have met their partner, they have their kids, they are happy enough with a few mates calling round for a few cans every now and then. And they feel entitled to lecture young people who have absolutely none of that and who now have lost any avenue they once had for getting any of that.

    We are taking away the youths education, their social life, their job prospects, their hobbies and basically every other thing that they have going. And then some smug prick on the internet wants to lecture them for losing hope.


  • #8388
    LilyShame
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 144 ✭✭LilyShame


    Above is so true... Its **** for young ppl now.
    Pubs and clubs are a big part of being 25
    Blanket approach again...
    I thought we flattened the curve to give HSE time to prepare our health service! We have done that now. What's gone wrong with Hse preparation?


  • #8389
    Idbatterim
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,570 ✭✭✭✭Idbatterim


    LilyShame wrote: »
    Above is so true... Its **** for young ppl now.
    Pubs and clubs are a big part of being 25
    Blanket approach again...
    I thought we flattened the curve to give HSE time to prepare our health service! We have done that now. What's gone wrong with Hse preparation?

    The health service here has been a shambles for decades, what's a few months going to do ?


  • #8390
    road_high
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,888 ✭✭✭✭road_high


    is_that_so wrote: »
    They appointed NPHET and they do have the expertise and a good range of people in there. For most of this they have been very good but I don't think they have the ability nor the flexibility now to get past this waiting a full cycle. It was the way to go for a very long time but they were aware of rising cases last week, they should have taken a stance then.

    What are we doing now because it’s completely mixed up... I’d we are going for full eradication then so be it and shut the country does completely especially to foreign travel. With all the consequences those restrictions bring. Other than that we are pissing in the wind with this childish nonsense


  • #8391
    dalyboy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,491 ✭✭✭dalyboy


    bettyoleary wrote: »
    We dont need a food voucher we need to stop travel, pubs, enclosed spaces. We did alright with supermarkets, people doing distancing. No travel. Thats whats going to stop the spread

    Welcome to North Korea


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  • #8392
    pjohnson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,228 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


    tobefrank321 wrote: »
    Fine. Open the pubs. Have house parties every night. Open up flights to and from red zones. No isolation for visitors either.

    And watch a general lockdown arrive in about a month and those same young people end up long term unemployed with no colleges open and no career prospects.

    Or, we could sacrifice our social lives but save the economy and jobs including for the young.

    At this stage its one or the other. It can't be both.
    Hard to have much sympathy for any of the young thicko's. Doubt they'd be making it to college tbh.


  • #8393
    Hannibal36
    Closed Accounts Posts: 127 ✭✭Hannibal36


    pjohnson wrote: »
    Hard to have much sympathy for any of the young thicko's. Doubt they'd be making it to college tbh.

    This definitely seems to be the economic model the Government is following,sacrificing the younger generation to save a small number of elderly and sick.

    In Government you have to make the tough decisions for the greater good so i for one am glad to have a strong government looking out for us all.After all,the sick and elderly are our future and the countries future,we must prolong each and every one of them for as long as possible,no matter the cost to us all and the younger generations.


  • #8394
    pjohnson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,228 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


    Hannibal36 wrote: »
    This definitely seems to be the economic model the Government is following,sacrificing the younger generation to save a small number of elderly and sick.

    In Government you have to make the tough decisions for the greater good so i for one am glad to have a strong government looking out for us all.After all,the sick and elderly are our future and the countries future,we must prolong each and every one of them for as long as possible,no matter the cost to us all and the younger generations.

    Any of the "younger generation" smart enough to be going to house parties during a pandemic wouldnt be the type that'd be our future. Surely some youngsters must have intelligence.


  • #8395
    el Fenomeno
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,630 ✭✭✭el Fenomeno


    The biggest tragedy of 2020 is that we're now in a position where a Healy-Rae is speaking sense.

    What a year.


  • #8396
    FintanMcluskey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,654 ✭✭✭FintanMcluskey


    pjohnson wrote: »
    Hard to have much sympathy for any of the young thicko's. Doubt they'd be making it to college tbh.

    Your posting style is proving a point.

    Its rather amusing


  • #8397
    facehugger99
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,878 ✭✭✭facehugger99


    FintanMcluskey wrote: »
    Your posting style is proving a point.

    Its rather amusing

    He comes in to the thread for a low-level troll every morning - can pretty much set your watch by it.


  • #8398
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    road_high wrote: »
    What are we doing now because it’s completely mixed up... I’d we are going for full eradication then so be it and shut the country does completely especially to foreign travel. With all the consequences those restrictions bring. Other than that we are pissing in the wind with this childish nonsense
    I have been a supporter of NPHET and government approaches all the way through but I really don't think that wait and see for 3 weeks is the way to do things any more. It gives a false sense of hope and progress that is completely contingent on data three weeks into the future. I think the pub thing was a mess, not because they deferred it but because they saw a need to get to week 3 to respond to something that was already worrying last week. There wouldn't have been too much loss of face at all then and it looks decisive. I also think the drip feeding of information at this stage has outlived its usefulness. We really do need to see a plan and my own feeling at present is that the schools are not going to open.


  • #8399
    faceman
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 16,673 CMod ✭✭✭✭faceman


    All bets are off now on travel. This reeks of Charlie Haughey behaviour.

    Has MM not heard of Zoom?

    Has he self deemed his trip as essential?

    The optics of this are atrocious.

    This is pretty squarely sending the message quarantine is nonsense

    https://jrnl.ie/5152281


  • #8400
    daheff
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,043 ✭✭✭daheff


    faceman wrote: »
    All bets are off now on travel. This reeks of Charlie Haughey behaviour.

    Has MM not heard of Zoom?

    Has he self deemed his trip as essential?

    The optics of this are atrocious.

    This is pretty squarely sending the message quarantine is nonsense

    https://jrnl.ie/5152281

    It's his first time to meet as Taoiseach...so of course he wants to be there in person.


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  • #8401
    PowerToWait
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,790 ✭✭✭PowerToWait


    LilyShame wrote: »
    Above is so true... Its **** for young ppl now.
    Pubs and clubs are a big part of being 25
    Blanket approach again...

    I listened to a vox pop on RTE yesterday. Every young person on it was like, going to house pardies, like not huge like, but like, twenny or like thurdy people.


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