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Covid19 Part XIX-25,802 in ROI (1,753 deaths) 5,859 in NI (556 deaths) (21/07)Read OP

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  • #5612
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    mloc123 wrote: »
    If you have missed your daily dose of doom and gloom, read through the replies to this tweet...

    https://twitter.com/Ciaraioch/status/1282790721926438912?s=19

    I have never seen so many people scared to live their lives in a single place.

    These are the people that genuinely enjoyed lockdown, nutcases.


  • #5613
    froog
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,784 ✭✭✭froog


    robbiezero wrote: »
    Unreal.
    I feel almost back to normal now. Played hurling match sunday, had pints afterwards with team-mates, visiting family (with hugs etc), local opens next Monday.
    Is the level of fear in that thread really rational?

    Just curious but have you been following the news outside ireland at all?


  • #5614
    Plumbthedepths
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    wadacrack wrote: »
    Obviously they don't.

    I'm not so sure. Health care workers I can understand. People that have sat at home since March not so much.


  • #5615
    Plumbthedepths
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    froog wrote: »
    Just curious but have you been following the news outside ireland at all?

    What's that got to do with how a person in Ireland feels?


  • #5616
    froog
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,784 ✭✭✭froog


    Plumbthedepths wrote: »
    What's that got to do with how a person in Ireland feels?

    It's a global pandemic and the virus can spread across borders.


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  • #5617
    polesheep
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,950 ✭✭✭polesheep


    wadacrack wrote: »
    Obviously they don't. Alot of people are suffering from anxiety due to the pandemic especially people working in healthcare

    I know an awful lot of people working in healthcare, but I don't know of any suffering from anxiety due to Covid or otherwise. They're just getting on with their job and wishing they could go on holiday. Anxiety isn't normal and is not nearly as common as you suggest.


  • #5618
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    I just want to rewind 12 months and remember what it’s like to be looking forward to something. The staying at home is something I’ve been doing for years but I could put my dad into respite a few times a year and get a break from it all. I’m not even talking about going on holiday, I’m talking about being able to think about something else apart from my “job”.

    I don’t know when respite services will come back. Spare a thought for all those home carers out there.

    Sorry, I’m in a feel sorry for myself mood today.


  • #5619
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    Eod100 wrote: »
    Varadkar says mandatory quarantine not possible for legal and practical reasons. No detail on what they are though. https://www.newstalk.com/news/varadkar-mandatory-quarantine-turned-bit-disaster-australia-1045630?utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Twitter#Echobox=1594714920

    He is right. This will go on for months or years. The virus is suppressed and we should be open to certain countries without mandatory quarantine. We have to open up in a managed way sometime, and the COVID situation is realistically not going to get any better than this. If the suggestion is that we wait until next year, my question is why. What will be better next year?

    But I do believe that high risk travellers such as from the US should be banned, unless resident here, until they get their house in order

    And re. the UK, incoming travel by Brits is just something we will have to live with. Our situation, probably in the world, is unique in that the passport of our neighbour automatically gives residency rights with no additional residency card or other registration procedure necessary (even in schengen you have to register if moving country). So can’t stop British into Ireland or Irish into Britain, as cannot tell if they are resident or not without inferring this by looking at bank account statements or utility bills (and even then they might be in a partners name)


  • #5620
    Eod100
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,197 ✭✭✭✭Eod100


    Plumbthedepths wrote: »
    I'm not so sure. Health care workers I can understand. People that have sat at home since March not so much.

    Their fear is about returning to society. That implies they want to do so in the first place. People involved in mental health services here have said there will be issues for some. Some are resilient and can bounce back, some will think they're fine and have issues later on, others will have issues at the start. No response is wrong .


  • #5621
    Plumbthedepths
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    froog wrote: »
    It's a global pandemic and the virus can spread across borders.

    It already did spread here and we have managed to suppress it. So the poster beginning to feel normal is valid.


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  • #5622
    ronano
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,157 ✭✭✭ronano


    Strawberry Milkshake wrote: »
    I just want to rewind 12 months and remember what it’s like to be looking forward to something. The staying at home is something I’ve been doing for years but I could put my dad into respite a few times a year and get a break from it all. I’m not even talking about going on holiday, I’m talking about being able to think about something else apart from my “job”.

    I don’t know when respite services will come back. Spare a thought for all those home carers out there.

    Sorry, I’m in a feel sorry for myself mood today.

    You are not in a sorry mood, the job you do is difficult, stressful and all consuming. I hope respite services in your area start up again, hugs.


  • #5623
    caveat emptor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,134 ✭✭✭caveat emptor


    Deleted User wrote: »
    I think that there is a large part of the population that embrace it tbh

    And the reason that they lash out at the rest of us is that we are making it more difficult for them to wallow in it

    Edgy. I see we are back to commenting on commentators as opposed to the situation. Do You know who used to love doing that?
    Economic doom merchants threaten our future, says Bertie

    He said that people should not allow themselves to be convinced by the "nay-sayers" and "merchants of doom" that the Irish economy was in trouble or that the good times were over.

    https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/economic-doom-merchants-threaten-our-future-says-bertie-26301340.html


  • #5624
    stephenjmcd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,450 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    https://twitter.com/tancredipalmeri/status/1282961027588644866?s=19


  • #5625
    robbiezero
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,750 ✭✭✭robbiezero


    froog wrote: »
    Just curious but have you been following the news outside ireland at all?

    Yes. So what?


  • #5626
    MonkstownHoop
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,196 ✭✭✭MonkstownHoop


    AdamD wrote: »
    These are the people that genuinely enjoyed lockdown, nutcases.

    'my anxiety'


  • #5627
    the corpo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,813 ✭✭✭the corpo


    I think a problem, that is genuinely scary to some people, is how many places aren't in anyway taking social distancing seriously. Many are, but a significant amount aren't.

    Wife and I went to get some take out coffee from a coffee shop near the Phoenix park. The table arrangement didn't look any different from before, and place was heaving. Now, it's my understanding that if the tables couldn't be more than a metre apart you'd expect staff to be wearing protective gear. None were, of any description.

    Every table was full, all adults elbow to elbow, not a chance they were all from the same households. If you were anxious about a return to normality, how could that not freak you out and make you dive back under the covers? Everyone needs to be a lot more patient with each other.


  • #5628
    Boggles
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42,548 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    Report on the coming winter in the UK.

    https://acmedsci.ac.uk/file-download/51353957

    Basically prepare for the worst and hope for the best.


  • #5629
    Renjit
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 949 ✭✭✭Renjit


    I love breakfast and a pinch of positivity.


  • #5630
    prunudo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,123 ✭✭✭prunudo


    Can anyone fill me in on the cluster that they mentioned in Kerry yesterday. My family want to organise a weekend trip to Killarney soon and am uneasy about going. Its not that I'm super paranoid about the pandemic, just that I know its safer stay home where I have more control who I come into contact with.
    Maybe Im over reacting but its an unnecessary trip in my mind. Not sure the 'new norm' of socialising and holidaying is worth the trip.


  • #5631
    froog
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,784 ✭✭✭froog


    Plumbthedepths wrote: »
    It already did spread here and we have managed to suppress it. So the poster beginning to feel normal is valid.

    in the simplest possible terms - this thing is rampant across the world right now, it never really slowed down and it is getting worse and worse. until we have a vaccine it's going to be bad. what will make it worse for us here in ireland is people taking zero precautions right now and mocking those who do and are anxious. the tough guy stance some on here have is extremely immature and dangerous. it's what led to the carnage in the US and Brazil right now.

    enjoy the few weeks of freedom lad, really i mean that. I will too.


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  • #5632
    Dante7
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,543 ✭✭✭Dante7


    mloc123 wrote: »
    If you have missed your daily dose of doom and gloom, read through the replies to this tweet...

    https://twitter.com/Ciaraioch/status/1282790721926438912?s=19

    I have never seen so many people scared to live their lives in a single place.

    Pronouns in the bio. Anything they say can be dismissed for not being subjected to rigorous thinking.


  • #5633
    stephenjmcd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,450 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    prunudo wrote: »
    Can anyone fill me in on the cluster that they mentioned in Kerry yesterday. My family want to organise a weekend trip to Killarney soon and am uneasy about going. Its not that I'm super paranoid about the pandemic, just that I know its safer stay home where I have more control who I come into contact with.
    Maybe Im over reacting but its an unnecessary trip in my mind. Not sure the 'new norm' of socialising and holidaying is worth the trip.

    Was reported at the end of last week, cluster related to a house party and no evidence from public health that any socialising was done outside of the rented house.


  • #5634
    Eod100
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,197 ✭✭✭✭Eod100


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    He is right. This will go on for months or years. The virus is suppressed and we should be open to certain countries without mandatory quarantine. We have to open up in a managed way sometime, and the COVID situation is realistically not going to get any better than this. If the suggestion is that we wait until next year, my question is why. What will be better next year?

    But I do believe that high risk travellers such as from the US should be banned, unless resident here, until they get their house in order

    And re. the UK, incoming travel by Brits is just something we will have to live with. Our situation, probably in the world, is unique in that the passport of our neighbour automatically gives residency rights with no additional residency card or other registration procedure necessary (even in schengen you have to register if moving country). So can’t stop British into Ireland or Irish into Britain, as cannot tell if they are resident or not without inferring this by looking at bank account statements or utility bills (and even then they might be in a partners name)

    Issue is travel from high risk countries like US. Green list will be out Monday so no self isolation from there let. Grand travel inevitable from UK but not US without proper procedures.


  • #5635
    schmoo2k
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,389 ✭✭✭schmoo2k


    wadacrack wrote: »
    Obviously they don't. Alot of people are suffering from anxiety due to the pandemic especially people working in healthcare

    I don't think there were many in that thread working in healthcare to be fair - also not that many who would be in a high risk category even...


  • #5636
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    stephenjmcd wrote: »
    Was reported at the end of last week, cluster related to a house party and no evidence from public health that any socialising was done outside of the rented house.

    If that house hasn’t been rented out already, I’d say it is now the most hygienic holiday let in the country.

    I hope it is anyway


  • #5637
    robbiezero
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,750 ✭✭✭robbiezero


    froog wrote: »
    in the simplest possible terms - this thing is rampant across the world right now, it never really slowed down and it is getting worse and worse. until we have a vaccine it's going to be bad. what will make it worse for us here in ireland is people taking zero precautions right now and mocking those who do and are anxious. the tough guy stance some on here have is extremely immature and dangerous. it's what led to the carnage in the US and Brazil right now.

    enjoy the few weeks of freedom lad, really i mean that. I will too.

    You do understand that there is quite a large space between "zero precautions" and the level of anxiety in that thread. It doesn't have to be either/or.


  • #5638
    schmoo2k
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,389 ✭✭✭schmoo2k


    Eod100 wrote: »
    A lot of fear is irrational though.

    I am not sure irrational is fair - its what our media tells us to be...


  • #5639
    ixoy
    Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 18,045 Mod ✭✭✭✭ixoy


    froog wrote: »
    what will make it worse for us here in ireland is people taking zero precautions right now and mocking those who do and are anxious.
    Where are people mocking those who take precautions?


  • #5640
    the corpo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,813 ✭✭✭the corpo


    robbiezero wrote: »
    You do understand that there is quite a large space between "zero precautions" and the level of anxiety in that thread. It doesn't have to be either/or.

    It's depressingly easy to head anywhere and find evidence of 'zero precautions' though. Like I said above, most places are doing a great job, but enough aren't. Public compliance may be hard to police, but I'm not adverse to the idea of businesses being fined if they aren't implementing the guidelines.


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  • #5641
    wadacrack
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,172 ✭✭✭wadacrack


    polesheep wrote: »
    I know an awful lot of people working in healthcare, but I don't know of any suffering from anxiety due to Covid or otherwise. They're just getting on with their job and wishing they could go on holiday. Anxiety isn't normal and is not nearly as common as you suggest.

    I wouldn't make assumptions based on personal experience. Not saying its normal but it is common and was even before a pandemic. People with underlying conditions or past illness could be more susceptible. That's understandable to me.


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