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Covid19 Part XIX-25,802 in ROI (1,753 deaths) 5,859 in NI (556 deaths) (21/07)Read OP

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,161 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    Santy2015 wrote: »
    It’s getting on my tits now to be honest. House parties won’t stop they were happening anyway before Covid but at least will all pubs open, it’d be controlled, gives people the option and contact tracing easier. Maybe the pubs should make it a rule that the app be downloaded before entry? Obviously not all people have smartphones but not a bad way of helping them open. On the app I think all retail Workers should be made download it.

    Was thinking the other day you could easily have a system like clocking in to the bar using the COVID app - then if there was a case in a bar they could alert all people that were in the bar after them
    Dunno how realistic that would be tho...but easy than taking the contact details of everyone


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,458 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    wadacrack wrote: »

    And what has Montreal got to do with its only July do you think its going somewhere ??

    On Thursday it was stated no clusters with bars and restaurants up to then


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,458 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,550 ✭✭✭ShineOn7


    Dame Lane tonight


    "Not much here for the pearl clutchers to wet the bed over this weekend."



    That's because the bars likely got a Gardai bollocking after last weekend


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,047 ✭✭✭Polar101


    Dame Lane tonight

    Not sure if those four people are socially distancing.

    Anyway, looks like it was a one-off event, so no problem there.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,161 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    Bars all locked up by the looks of it - what bars were open last weekend?


  • Posts: 5,121 [Deleted User]


    ShineOn7 wrote: »
    That's because the bars likely got a Gardai bollocking after last weekend

    Many predicted that the first weekend would be crazy and then that it would all go quiet.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,533 ✭✭✭✭expectationlost


    don't think this is quite that bad but https://twitter.com/KarrieKehoe/status/1282031644480864256


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,550 ✭✭✭ShineOn7


    fritzelly wrote: »
    Bars all locked up by the looks of it - what bars were open last weekend?


    Weren't some of them serving takeaway pints?

    Berlin D2 on the same street was advertising a 24 hour re-opening party the week before with zero fcuks given. I'd imagine they were one of the culprits last Saturday night


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,533 ✭✭✭✭expectationlost


    Many predicted that the first weekend would be crazy and then that it would all go quiet.
    thers a difference between quiet and closed


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,134 ✭✭✭caveat emptor


    The level of cases we're seeing now are probably the same level that were here a week ago when we had single digit figures. The daily testing looks like it's doubled. So we're just finding more of it out there. It's not like we were finding all cases with 4000 daily tests. I'd guess we're finding a lot of asymptomatic people. Just look at the positivity rate. 12 cases out of 5000 tests is the same positivity rate as 24 cases out of 10000 tests. But when we see 24 cases in a day. Guess which figure is the one that is focused on more? It ain't the number of tests.

    Ah the Donald defence. Nice logic.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 466 ✭✭imfml


    thers a difference between quiet and closed

    Does it really matter if Soho is more than likely hopping and we are allowing the Brits in to tour the country?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,458 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    fritzelly wrote: »
    Bars all locked up by the looks of it - what bars were open last weekend?

    Only those serving food, any of the ones doing takeaway which some in the picture were, didn't open this weekend.

    There's also a heavy Garda presence in the area tonight making sure anywhere that is open is closed as per their licenced restaurant hours.

    It was also as many said the first weekend as everywhere that's opened has had a busy first week before calming right down


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 12,516 Mod ✭✭✭✭igCorcaigh


    Any thoughts on this reply?

    50% of people not susceptible plus another 30% already exposed = approaching herd immunity in UK?

    https://twitter.com/CatrionaColllns/status/1281733145851822080?s=19


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,183 ✭✭✭Neamhshuntasach


    Ah the Donald defence. Nice logic.


    What are ye on about? Would ye feel better if we only tested 4000 and reported 10 cases? You really think there were only 4 cases in the entire ****ing country on the day we reported them?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,584 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    don't think this is quite that bad but https://twitter.com/KarrieKehoe/status/1282031644480864256
    That doesn't look bad tbh.
    People in their own groups, door person doing their job at pyg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,225 ✭✭✭✭Eod100


    fritzelly wrote: »
    Bars all locked up by the looks of it - what bars were open last weekend?

    Yeah Dame Tavern, Mercantile and Stag's Head all look closed there. Now I'm curious were any of them even in open last weekend!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,458 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    don't think this is quite that bad but https://twitter.com/KarrieKehoe/status/1282031644480864256

    don't see any major issues there


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,161 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    igCorcaigh wrote: »
    Any thoughts on this reply?

    50% of people not susceptible plus another 30% already exposed = approaching herd immunity in UK?

    https://twitter.com/CatrionaColllns/status/1281733145851822080?s=19

    Sounds like that wacky Irish professor - whats her name?

    Anyway a random tweet with nothing backing it up


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,458 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    Eod100 wrote: »
    Yeah Dame Tavern, Mercantile and Stag's Head all look closed there. Now I'm curious were any of them even in open last weekend!

    Mercantile and Dame Tavern were doing takeaway before this weekend. Stags head was closed and has been all along


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,225 ✭✭✭✭Eod100


    igCorcaigh wrote: »
    Any thoughts on this reply?

    50% of people not susceptible plus another 30% already exposed = approaching herd immunity in UK?

    https://twitter.com/CatrionaColllns/status/1281733145851822080?s=19

    Sounds like absolute b*llocks I'm afraid


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,225 ✭✭✭✭Eod100


    Mercantile and Dame Tavern were doing takeaway before this weekend. Stags head was closed and has been all along

    Guess the Gardai may have shut it down or did themselves with fear of that happening. Proper order too tbf


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,766 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    The t-cell theory is possible but I doubt it's 50%. Wouldn't say it's anywhere close to that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,067 ✭✭✭✭Danzy


    Eod100 wrote: »
    Sounds like absolute b*llocks I'm afraid

    Not as much as may be.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,130 ✭✭✭✭Spanish Eyes


    Will all go back to normal ****e after the warnings for this weekend. The LVA or whatever they are called will do the necessary to ensure opening up on the 20th.

    And then it's biz as usual after that. Hey Ho.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,047 ✭✭✭Polar101


    igCorcaigh wrote: »
    Any thoughts on this reply?

    50% of people not susceptible plus another 30% already exposed = approaching herd immunity in UK?

    Well, my question would be: why would getting a cold/other viruses give immunity from this (novel) coronavirus? Wouldn't that be a bit like being immune to lung cancer if you've had breast cancer - which doesn't happen as far as I'm aware.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,130 ✭✭✭✭Spanish Eyes


    The ad block there spelt Shyte.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,584 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    Eod100 wrote: »
    Sounds like absolute b*llocks I'm afraid
    Completely made up dangerous rubbish from a Twitter account with the title "keep Ireland free"...ffs


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,584 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    Polar101 wrote: »
    Well, my question would be: why would getting a cold/other viruses give immunity from this (novel) coronavirus? Wouldn't that be a bit like being immune to lung cancer if you've had breast cancer - which doesn't happen as far as I'm aware.
    It wouldn't....it's utter b#llocks


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,139 ✭✭✭What Username Guidelines


    igCorcaigh wrote: »
    Any thoughts on this reply?

    50% of people not susceptible plus another 30% already exposed = approaching herd immunity in UK?

    https://twitter.com/CatrionaColllns/status/1281733145851822080?s=19

    I’ve been following the original tweeter (@fatemperor) for a bit as I’m trying to get as many perspectives as possible. I change my mind on how I feel about this whole thing every day tbh.

    He is retweeting analysis and his own analysis that seems at least interesting, general gist is that we’re seeing excess deaths but it’s following Farrs law of epidemics and is almost over, lockdown or no lockdown.

    Most countries have returned to normal levels of deaths by now, Croatia and Israel are seeing resurgence due to locking down early and reopening when large proportion were still susceptible.

    He’s certainly one of the more open posters on that side of the argument, crying out for people to analyse what he’s done and point out where he is wrong, whereas most others I had to stop following as they seemed to have ulterior motives and were just plain abusive to those asking questions.

    He’s done interesting analysis of deaths in the states and Sweden by date of death as opposed to date of report, showing a very similar curve to each other, whether the state had a hard lockdown/soft lockdown/etc.

    Having said that, I’m not sure how much of this is cognitive bias and how proportional my attention is to how much I’d like it to be true.


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