Masks

Tork · 08-07-2020 12:36PM

Yes: to protect others

I bet you're praying that this is more scaremongering, aren't you?

weldoninhio · 08-07-2020 12:38PM

No: I will wait for the HSE to recommend

ginoginelli wrote: »

Extremely disturbing news recently in ny times, irish times, and other news outlets about possible aersol transmission. This has been purported by many scientists since March I believe, but as par course in this pandemic, the WHO are only examining evidence now.

This is a gamechanger. If people have no choice but to be inside there must be no question about mandatory mask wearing indoors now. Everybody needs to get on board with this, and protect each other.

UV lighting, improved ventilation and imposing time limits should also be implemented.

The virus is gone buddy, give it up. The horse you're flogging is dead, the RSPCA is on its way.

08-07-2020 01:19PM

ginoginelli wrote: »

Extremely disturbing news recently in ny times, irish times, and other news outlets about possible aersol transmission. This has been purported by many scientists since March I believe, but as par course in this pandemic, the WHO are only examining evidence now.

This is a gamechanger. If people have no choice but to be inside there must be no question about mandatory mask wearing indoors now. Everybody needs to get on board with this, and protect each other.

UV lighting, improved ventilation and imposing time limits should also be implemented.

Does it change anything? The virus is the same as it has been for months, people have been using shops for months without it running riot.

ginoginelli · 08-07-2020 01:32PM

Yes: surgical

AdamD wrote: »

Does it change anything? The virus is the same as it has been for months, people have been using shops for months without it running riot.

My biggest concern is people returning offices. Most people are getting back to work now and are going to be stuck indoors over a long period - ideal conditions for virus transmission.

I want to make sure they are as protected as possible.

is_that_so · 08-07-2020 01:40PM

No: other

ginoginelli wrote: »

My biggest concern is people returning offices. Most people are getting back to work now and are going to be stuck indoors over a long period - ideal conditions for virus transmission.

I want to make sure they are as protected as possible.

Not all indoor locations are equal in risk. At the very lower end would be supermarkets and anywhere that has large spaces but moderately few people. There do seem to be lessons to be learnt on ventilation, particularly for offices. People will have to return and I know of both public and private offices where they have strategies in place or planned. As for the virus our own levels are ways down and it is a matter of using tools at our disposal to ensure it stays that way.

seamus · 08-07-2020 01:45PM

AdamD wrote: »

Does it change anything? The virus is the same as it has been for months, people have been using shops for months without it running riot.

It changes some guidance. Ultimately if it is airborne it means that "learning to live with it" is now the most likely way to move forward.

The guidance will likely indicate that there must be minimum standards of fresh air ventilation for buildings, or HEPA filters installed in any building using air conditioning.

Your office in an old Georgian building with a window that only opens half an inch and gets sweltering in the summer, will not be permitted if you have more than one employee. Social distancing or no social distancing.

amandstu · 08-07-2020 02:21PM

Can one reuse a mask if one leaves it in a safe place for a few days?

The masks I have seen have a limit on the number of times they can be washed.

The idea being to have several of them and to use them again after a week or so or whatever minimum time might apply.

railer201 · 08-07-2020 02:30PM

Yes: valved

weldoninhio wrote: »

The virus is gone buddy, give it up. The horse you're flogging is dead, the RSPCA is on its way.

Explain the 24 cases yesterday then if the virus has gone !

odyssey06 · 08-07-2020 02:38PM

amandstu wrote: »

Can one reuse a mask if one leaves it in a safe place for a few days?
The masks I have seen have a limit on the number of times they can be washed.
The idea being to have several of them and to use them again after a week or so or whatever minimum time might apply.

I think you need to leave them for > 72 hours and let them dry out.
Ideally in sunlight when we have it

amandstu · 08-07-2020 02:53PM

odyssey06 wrote: »

I think you need to leave them for > 72 hours and let them dry out.
Ideally in sunlight when we have it

So maybe let them dry out somewhere you don't frequent for 3 days and then take them out into the sunlight for (or just daylight?) for another hour or so?

Seanergy · 08-07-2020 02:57PM

Yes: valved

amandstu wrote: »

So maybe let them dry out somewhere you don't frequent for 3 days and then take them out into the sunlight for (or just daylight?) for another hour or so?

If it's a N95 go here: https://www.n95decon.orgA scientific consortium for data-driven study of N95 filtering facepiece respirator decontamination.

amandstu · 08-07-2020 03:08PM

Seanergy wrote: »

If it's a N95 go here: https://www.n95decon.orgA scientific consortium for data-driven study of N95 filtering facepiece respirator decontamination.

I thought we were being requested to avoid N59 masks so that the front line workers could have access to them .

They need them abroad too ,I would say.

I was just referring to non medical grade masks

odyssey06 · 08-07-2020 03:14PM

amandstu wrote: »

So maybe let them dry out somewhere you don't frequent for 3 days and then take them out into the sunlight for (or just daylight?) for another hour or so?

For the blue surgical masks, I put them into a breathable bag and leave for 72 hours. Don't leave it anywhere damp.
If it's a sunny day then put out on clothes line from a peg for a couple of hours after that to freshen them up. Means you can re-use a few times though after a while they will get battered so time for a new one then.

@Seanergy has linked some good info on the N95 respirator type ones should you already have one:
https://www.n95decon.org/faq

iamwhoiam · 08-07-2020 04:45PM

odyssey06 wrote: »

For the blue surgical masks, I put them into a breathable bag and leave for 72 hours. Don't leave it anywhere damp.
If it's a sunny day then put out on clothes line from a peg for a couple of hours after that to freshen them up. Means you can re-use a few times though after a while they will get battered so time for a new one then.

@Seanergy has linked some good info on the N95 respirator type ones should you already have one:
https://www.n95decon.org/faq

Can i ask what you use as a breathable bag . I was keeping ours in a ziplock bag but they smell in it .

Away With The Fairies · 08-07-2020 04:49PM

Yes: valved

iamwhoiam wrote: »

Can i ask what you use as a breathable bag . I was keeping ours in a ziplock bag but they smell in it .

Paper bag

iamwhoiam · 08-07-2020 04:53PM

Away With The Fairies wrote: »

Paper bag

Ok thanks . Will have to hunt for one they are not easy to come across . Chemists often have them for meds

Away With The Fairies · 08-07-2020 04:55PM

Yes: valved

iamwhoiam wrote: »

Ok thanks . Will have to hunt for one they are not easy to come across . Chemists often have them for meds

I found paper sandwich bags in SuperValu. The health food shops might sell them as well, it sounds like something they would sell.

CalamariFritti · 08-07-2020 05:31PM

Tork wrote: »

I bet you're praying that this is more scaremongering, aren't you?

Erm, aren't you too? Isn't everyone? Or are you actually hoping this gets worse?

What a weird question...

Tork · 08-07-2020 05:53PM

Yes: to protect others

Why do you think I want this to get worse?

Elmer Blooker · 08-07-2020 05:56PM

Tork wrote: »

I bet you're praying that this is more scaremongering, aren't you?

MORE scaremongering!
A Freudian slip if ever I saw one.

the corpo · 08-07-2020 06:01PM

Yes: valved

Covid-19 might die after 72 hours, but other germs and bacteria may not. This was one of the gov's initital fears and reluctance to endorse masks, that people wouldn't use thm properly and *other* diseases would come into play. Disposable masks should be disposed of, and not reused.

Plenty of cheap reusable cotton ones that are perfect for everyday use available, and you just throw them in the wash.

CalamariFritti · 08-07-2020 06:12PM

Elmer Blooker wrote: »

MORE scaremongering!
A Freudian slip if ever I saw one.

Not only the more bit but also the first time I got a real whiff of someone hoping for bad news. One can only guess why. Only reason I could think of is feeling vindicated - 'see, I told ye!'.

Anyway, I'll give him the benefit of the doubt and we call it a brainfart. But Tork should definitely sit down and have a chat with himself about his motivation in this debate.

amandstu · 08-07-2020 06:19PM

the corpo wrote: »

Covid-19 might die after 72 hours, but other germs and bacteria may not. This was one of the gov's initital fears and reluctance to endorse masks, that people wouldn't use thm properly and *other* diseases would come into play. Disposable masks should be disposed of, and not reused.

Plenty of cheap reusable cotton ones that are perfect for everyday use available, and you just throw them in the wash.

If you wash them I don't think they work out that much cheaper (the one I bought said to wash them no more than 5 times)

But I take your point about "other germs and bacteria " .

Can you buy more robust and effective masks that can be washed more than 5 times?

xhomelezz · 08-07-2020 06:23PM

Yes: valved

This thread is about masks guys. There's few posters here clearly with zero interest in masks, so why don't you take your little fights somewhere else. It's annoying to go through good few useless posts a day

Tork · 08-07-2020 06:43PM

Yes: to protect others

So what sort of masks are you wearing these days? Disposable? Reusable? Home made?

CalamariFritti · 08-07-2020 06:47PM

Didn’t realise this was a masks appreciation thread. I’ll leave you to it so.

Boggles · 08-07-2020 06:50PM

CalamariFritti wrote: »

Didn’t realise this was a masks appreciation thread. I’ll leave you to it so.

Thank fúck.

08-07-2020 06:53PM

Vietnam yesterday.

That is what a society with what must have been 90%-100% mask usage two and a half months ago looks like now. They're really not that scary. Wear them for a while to help and then stop wearing them. I'll never understand the issue people have with them.

fr336 · 08-07-2020 06:58PM

Yes: surgical

CalamariFritti wrote: »

Didn’t realise this was a masks appreciation thread. I’ll leave you to it so.

As the OP, no it's not. All discussion welcome. Unlike the main Covid thread.

dePeatrick · 08-07-2020 07:03PM

Yes: surgical

Tork wrote: »

So what sort of masks are you wearing these days? Disposable? Reusable? Home made?

Am using disposable surgical masks, not everywhere, check shop and see how busy/spacing etc so end up using them about 50% of the time. Try to pick off peak times for shopping.

Would have no problem with them being made mandatory, would welcome it.

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