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Is it just me or have SF vanished?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,670 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Mortelaro wrote: »
    Nope
    Nothing wrong with Vradakar in the park,

    This is the blind spot of the fan.

    It is just as easy to make the case that varadkar running around drinking cans in the park, shopping for clothes, eating out is responsible for people letting their guard down in Temple bar (they were just doing waht Leo thought it was alright to do).

    But of course not if you deny, and keep denying. :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,203 ✭✭✭✭hmmm


    But I agree with her. She shouldn't. Because asking for that is the 'political gamemanship part of this' The shamless bit.
    It's not political gamesmanship, it's politics. If SF want to position themselves as the party which thinks coronavirus is something which is not a big deal, and public health regulations can be ignored, that's fine and represents a genuine political position. But they can't then turn around and accuse governments of not treating the risk seriously, or not doing enough to combat the virus - that's hypocrisy, and if you are in politics that will be pointed out.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,431 ✭✭✭Mortelaro


    This is the blind spot of the fan.

    It is just as easy to make the case that varadkar running around drinking cans in the park, shopping for clothes, eating out is responsible for people letting their guard down in Temple bar (they were just doing waht Leo thought it was alright to do).

    But of course not if you deny, and keep denying. :)

    Vradakar didn't break any laws in the park
    Even the photos did not show what was in the cans,if that's what you are scratching the barrel for
    How many more times are you going to go on with this misnomer?
    Friends in groups of 4 were allowed outdoors and Vradakar lived in Farmleigh at the time

    Meanwhile in Belfast, MoN's definition of the NI rules is have some man have his arm around her taking a selfie

    You just don't care anymore Francis,all posting subterfuge ditched at this stage


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,013 ✭✭✭✭James Brown


    Bonniedog wrote: »
    Shinners have now spent ten years running the north with the DUP.

    Some folk might consider them to be a "tad right wing."

    As they would the British Tories whose policies the Shinners have been implementing :)

    I don't see the relation to the Sun?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,670 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Mortelaro wrote: »
    Vradakar didn't break any laws in the park
    Even the photos did not show what was in the cans,if that's what you are scratching the barrel for
    How many more times are you going to go on with this misnomer?
    Friends in groups of 4 were allowed outdoors and Vradakar lived in Farmleigh at the time

    Meanwhile in Belfast, MoN's definition of the NI rules is have some man have his arm around her taking a selfie

    You just don't care anymore Francis,all posting subterfuge ditched at this stage

    Which she has said was the wrong thing to do.
    Nobody said Varadkar broke the law, the conversation was around the signals he was sending after having being seen several times being loose with the regs.

    You keep trying to change what people are actual;ly saying to something you can deny.
    You are a gas debater, like some others here, doing that. Change what a poster says then lambast them for sying it. :)


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,431 ✭✭✭Mortelaro


    Which she has said was the wrong thing to do.
    Nobody said Varadkar broke the law, the conversation was around the signals he was sending after having being seen several times being loose with the regs.
    Your made up 'several times' and your incredible outrage that he spent time in the park with 2 friends and his partner you mean
    Get up the yard,I believe is the appropriate reaction to that
    You keep trying to change what people are actual;ly saying to something you can deny.
    You are a gas debater, like some others here, doing that. Change what a poster says then lambast them for sying it. :)

    Deflect Deflect Deflect and make up some more nonsense about Vradakar setting a bad example shopping or meeting friends,both of which must be grave sins
    Meanwhile in Belfast...actual flouting by people in the public eye who want to run the country
    Yeah gas alright


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,670 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Mortelaro wrote: »
    Your made up 'several times' and your incredible outrage that he spent time in the park with 2 friends and his partner you mean
    Get up the yard,I believe is the appropriate reaction to that



    Deflect Deflect Deflect and make up some more nonsense about Vradakar setting a bad example shopping or meeting friends,both of which must be grave sins
    Meanwhile in Belfast...actual flouting by people in the public eye who want to run the country
    Yeah gas alright

    Again the hypocrisy.. .we have seen the regs flouted everywhere.
    Until the PSNI say otherwise the Belfast event was no worse than some others...and still in denial as to what the issue with Varadkar was. The example he was setting.

    Alright for some to do.. grave crime agin humanity for the Shinners
    To be expected tbh.

    I criticised them all btw. No denying.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,313 ✭✭✭✭markodaly


    https://www.rte.ie/news/2020/0707/1151774-politics-sinn-fein-paddy-holohan/
    The party has requested all its members in the Dublin South West Constituency not to hold any meetings or to engage in political activity there until further notice

    The first split of many.

    SF core support are made up of people like Paddy Holohan, it's just their leadership don't realise it yet.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,431 ✭✭✭Mortelaro


    Again the hypocrisy.. .we have seen the regs flouted everywhere.
    Until the PSNI say otherwise the Belfast event was no worse than some others...and still in denial as to what the issue with Varadkar was. The example he was setting.

    Alright for some to do.. grave crime agin humanity for the Shinners
    To be expected tbh.

    I criticised them all btw. No denying.

    I fully support Vradakar meeting his friends in the park,no denial of that
    Most people do,your problem with it is made up and ridiculous

    Regarding the Belfast funeral, it was overkill, broke regulations in a high profile way and did not have the coordination of the PSNI despite SF saying it did
    Yet you're comparing it to small funerals countrywide for the 3rd or 4th time now in a fit of whataboutery thats frankly insulting to relatives that were unable to sit in a church for their loved ones funerals or get to a graveyard
    Party before society
    Party before health
    Party before bereaved


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,670 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Mortelaro wrote: »
    I fully support Vradakar meeting his friends in the park,no denial of that
    Most people do,your problem with it is made up and ridiculous

    We know you fully support Varadkar full stop.

    Regarding the Belfast funeral, it was overkill, broke regulations in a high profile way and did not have the coordination of the PSNI despite SF saying it did
    Yet you're comparing it to small funerals countrywide for the 3rd or 4th time now in a fit of whataboutery thats frankly insulting to relatives that were unable to sit in a church for their loved ones funerals or get to a graveyard
    Party before society
    Party before health
    Party before bereaved

    The PSNI statement shows you to be exaggerating AGAIN. At any time if the arrangements were not satisfactory in terms of stewarding etc they had the power to stop it. They didn't, so the 'plans' were adequate.
    Superintendent Melanie Jones said: "We were made aware of the plans for today's funeral and have engaged with the celebrant and service organisers to highlight both the public health advice and risks around Covid-19, and the requirement for those attending to adhere to social distancing.

    "We had assurances that those attending would observe the health guidelines and that marshals would be in place to encourage those lining the cortege route to observe social distancing.

    So we will await to see what the outcome of below will be -
    "We will now review footage gathered during the funeral and will consider any suspected breaches of the Health Protection (Coronavirus Restrictions) Regulations NI 2020."


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,781 ✭✭✭✭maccored


    markodaly wrote: »
    https://www.rte.ie/news/2020/0707/1151774-politics-sinn-fein-paddy-holohan/



    The first split of many.

    SF core support are made up of people like Paddy Holohan, it's just their leadership don't realise it yet.

    ye's are wile funny with the anti shinnerisms and the sheer effort a lot of you seem to put in to go googling. these threads are hilarious reading.

    roll on another 20 years of SF hoovering up the vote so more SF threads by people who 'dont like them' are here to be read and laughed at. Keep up the good work!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,431 ✭✭✭Mortelaro


    I'm fully behind anyone meeting their friends including Leo within regulations

    T he PSNI Made aware of plans ?
    In other words were told!
    No discussion

    Thats very different to what Mary Lou told RTÉ "it was meticulously planned with the PSNI"

    So was Mary Lou lying to RTÉ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,055 ✭✭✭JohnnyFlash


    It's not like SF have many councillors. That's the thing about SF. They definitely used social media to maximum effect during the election, and got the 'hop of the ball' on the day. But they have almost no party structures down the country, and when they do, it's a bunch of fat lads like the sort you saw in Belfast the last day. Think cheap cider, rollies, going to Wolfe Tones gigs, working as a bouncer, maybe a few tattoos they got in their 50's.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,670 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Mortelaro wrote: »
    In other words were told!
    No discussion
    /QUOTE]

    Away you go on the fantasy again. The PSNI statement again:



    We were made aware of the plans for today's funeral and have engaged with the celebrant and service organisers to highlight both the public health advice and risks around Covid-19, and the requirement for those attending to adhere to social distancing.

    "We had assurances that those attending would observe the health guidelines and that marshals would be in place to encourage those lining the cortege route to observe social distancing.

    I.m fully behind people going to the funerals of their friends by the way. I think it a peculiar and kind of sick ask the Executive is making here, to ask somebody to apologise for going to a funeral.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,670 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    It's not like SF have many councillors. That's the thing about SF. They definitely used social media to maximum effect during the election, and got the 'hop of the ball' on the day. But they have almost no party structures down the country, and when they do, it's a bunch of fat lads like the sort you saw in Belfast the last day. Think cheap cider, rollies, going to Wolfe Tones gigs, working as a bouncer, maybe a few tattoos they got in their 50's.

    Driving home after with gay abandon?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,055 ✭✭✭JohnnyFlash


    Driving home after with gay abandon?


    Not sure what you are getting at here, Francie.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,670 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Not sure what you are getting at here, Francie.

    You weren't tuned into see the calibre of person we have as Ministers about half an hour ago?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,431 ✭✭✭Mortelaro


    Driving home after with gay abandon?

    Speaking of which, SF have according to RTE accepted Cowens apology and left it at that
    Another side effect of the Belfast sit ye aisan,they are looking for magnamity it seems on the apology front
    Enough said


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,431 ✭✭✭Mortelaro


    Nobody said Varadkar broke the law, the conversation was around the signals he was sending after having being seen several times being loose with the regs.
    All made up


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,013 ✭✭✭✭James Brown


    It's not like SF have many councillors. That's the thing about SF. They definitely used social media to maximum effect during the election, and got the 'hop of the ball' on the day. But they have almost no party structures down the country, and when they do, it's a bunch of fat lads like the sort you saw in Belfast the last day. Think cheap cider, rollies, going to Wolfe Tones gigs, working as a bouncer, maybe a few tattoos they got in their 50's.

    What's wrong with using social media? They spent a lot less than FG. Maybe SF can give FG tips on how to better use their money?
    There's a lot about how shady and nefarious the social media platforms are, they are not going anywhere, most use them.
    'They don't have a structure down the country....and when they do' :rolleyes:
    There you go again. Insulting people for not voting or supporting the same team as you is pretty poor.
    Going by the articles I posted it's claimed FG is made up of racists and landlords. I know better than that.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,670 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Mortelaro wrote: »
    Speaking of which, SF have according to RTE accepted Cowens apology and left it at that
    Another side effect of the Belfast sit ye aisan,they are looking for magnamity it seems on the apology front
    Enough said

    Or maybe they just accepted his apology. Get them lads out from under the bed Mort.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,431 ✭✭✭Mortelaro


    Or maybe they just accepted his apology. Get them lads out from under the bed Mort.

    I might go easy on theory if you stop inventing stuff about Vradakar being loose on regulations
    Deal?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,670 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Mortelaro wrote: »
    I might go easy on theory if you stop inventing stuff about Vradakar being loose on regulations
    Deal?

    Varadker on a number of occasions was accused of being lax or even breaking the, at the time, stricter regs.

    It is a matter of your opinion and mine whether he did. Mine is, that the PR op in the warehouse were photographers can be seen breaking the social distancing requirements that he was lax in allowing that happen to get a publicity shot. He was again in the hospital photo ops.
    He didn't show great leadership in the Park in my opinion nor since, running around like a calf let out to grass getting photos taken.

    My opinion...you'll just have to accept it. By the way, see the recurrent theme above? An addiction to the limelight and PR.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,310 ✭✭✭Pkiernan


    How does SF correlate love for Ireland with todays IRA washing of green diesel and its resultant toxic sludge?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,852 ✭✭✭✭blanch152


    Does everyone agree that O’Neill should issue a full and forthright apology to her assembly colleagues on behalf of the SF party?

    I think so. This is a would that will continue to fester unless it is cauterised.

    Absolutely 100% agree with this.

    We have seen Billy Kelliher apologise, and that was that. Now, his actions didn't result in funerals for ordinary people being cancelled.

    Some of the excuses put out here have been pathetic to say the least. One of the most ridiculous ones peddled was that Sinn Fein weren't responsible for cancelling the nine funerals - that it was the Council that did it.

    So IRA plant a bomb in a pub, phone in a bomb warning, pub owner clears pub and closes down for the night. When a punter complains about losing out on his nightly pint, IRA say it was the pub owners fault!!! Same thing here, if the SF carry-on with the double funeral for Bobby hadn't taken place, then the other funerals would not have been cancelled.

    Instead of weasly words, we need proper full apologies.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,431 ✭✭✭Mortelaro


    Varadker on a number of occasions was accused of being lax or even breaking the, at the time, stricter regs.

    It is a matter of your opinion and mine whether he did. Mine is, that the PR op in the warehouse were photographers can be seen breaking the social distancing requirements that he was lax in allowing that happen to get a publicity shot. you're He was again in the hospital photo ops.
    That barrel scraping was debunked
    It takes level 11 obsession to ignore the debunking
    At this stage my opinion is there's 3 or 4 people writing these posts and when one clocks off they don't bother checking back to see what the other has wrote
    He didn't show great leadership in the Park in my opinion nor since, running around like a calf let out to grass getting photos taken.

    My opinion...you'll just have to accept it. By the way, see the recurrent theme above? An addiction to the limelight and PR.

    'Leadership in the park' L o fucking L,4 friends cannot sit out and meet up like human beings just because one is Tsoiseach?

    Pull the other one


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,670 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    blanch152 wrote: »
    Absolutely 100% agree with this.

    We have seen Billy Kelliher apologise, and that was that. Now, his actions didn't result in funerals for ordinary people being cancelled.

    Some of the excuses put out here have been pathetic to say the least. One of the most ridiculous ones peddled was that Sinn Fein weren't responsible for cancelling the nine funerals - that it was the Council that did it.

    So IRA plant a bomb in a pub, phone in a bomb warning, pub owner clears pub and closes down for the night. When a punter complains about losing out on his nightly pint, IRA say it was the pub owners fault!!! Same thing here, if the SF carry-on with the double funeral for Bobby hadn't taken place, then the other funerals would not have been cancelled.

    Instead of weasly words, we need proper full apologies.

    'Standard procedure for high profile funerals' is the term they used.

    But the RA etc etc.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,852 ✭✭✭✭blanch152


    'Standard procedure for high profile funerals' is the term they used.

    But the RA etc etc.

    Anyone who organises or attends a high profile funeral during Covid-19 is in breach of the regulations.

    Unfortunately for those poor nine families, the clear breach of the regulations by Sinn Fein meant that their funerals had to be cancelled.

    It is a complete disgrace, and the lack of shame is nauseating.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,670 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Mortelaro wrote: »
    That barrel scraping wS debunked
    It takes level 11 obsession to ignore the debunking
    At this stage my opinion is there's 3 or 4 people writing these posts and when one clocks off they don't bother checking back to see what the other has wrote
    Debunked by someone who is here defending FG and Varadkar to the hilt? Are you having a laugh?
    'Leadership in the park' L o fucking L,4 friends cannot sit out and meet up like human beings just because one is Tsoiseach?

    Pull the other one

    Your opinion differs to mine and others who criticised him. Get over it.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,852 ✭✭✭✭blanch152


    Debunked by someone who is here defending FG and Varadkar to the hilt? Are you having a laugh?



    Your opinion differs to mine and others who criticised him. Get over it.


    You are only criticising him to deflect from the antics of Sinn Fein.


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