Mortelaro wrote: » Nope Nothing wrong with Vradakar in the park,
FrancieBrady wrote: » But I agree with her. She shouldn't. Because asking for that is the 'political gamemanship part of this' The shamless bit.
FrancieBrady wrote: » This is the blind spot of the fan. It is just as easy to make the case that varadkar running around drinking cans in the park, shopping for clothes, eating out is responsible for people letting their guard down in Temple bar (they were just doing waht Leo thought it was alright to do). But of course not if you deny, and keep denying.
Bonniedog wrote: » Shinners have now spent ten years running the north with the DUP. Some folk might consider them to be a "tad right wing." As they would the British Tories whose policies the Shinners have been implementing
Mortelaro wrote: » Vradakar didn't break any laws in the park Even the photos did not show what was in the cans,if that's what you are scratching the barrel for How many more times are you going to go on with this misnomer? Friends in groups of 4 were allowed outdoors and Vradakar lived in Farmleigh at the time Meanwhile in Belfast, MoN's definition of the NI rules is have some man have his arm around her taking a selfie You just don't care anymore Francis,all posting subterfuge ditched at this stage
FrancieBrady wrote: » Which she has said was the wrong thing to do. Nobody said Varadkar broke the law, the conversation was around the signals he was sending after having being seen several times being loose with the regs.
You keep trying to change what people are actual;ly saying to something you can deny. You are a gas debater, like some others here, doing that. Change what a poster says then lambast them for sying it.
Mortelaro wrote: » Your made up 'several times' and your incredible outrage that he spent time in the park with 2 friends and his partner you mean Get up the yard,I believe is the appropriate reaction to that Deflect Deflect Deflect and make up some more nonsense about Vradakar setting a bad example shopping or meeting friends,both of which must be grave sins Meanwhile in Belfast...actual flouting by people in the public eye who want to run the country Yeah gas alright
The party has requested all its members in the Dublin South West Constituency not to hold any meetings or to engage in political activity there until further notice
FrancieBrady wrote: » Again the hypocrisy.. .we have seen the regs flouted everywhere. Until the PSNI say otherwise the Belfast event was no worse than some others...and still in denial as to what the issue with Varadkar was. The example he was setting. Alright for some to do.. grave crime agin humanity for the Shinners To be expected tbh. I criticised them all btw. No denying.
Mortelaro wrote: » I fully support Vradakar meeting his friends in the park,no denial of that Most people do,your problem with it is made up and ridiculous
Regarding the Belfast funeral, it was overkill, broke regulations in a high profile way and did not have the coordination of the PSNI despite SF saying it did Yet you're comparing it to small funerals countrywide for the 3rd or 4th time now in a fit of whataboutery thats frankly insulting to relatives that were unable to sit in a church for their loved ones funerals or get to a graveyard Party before society Party before health Party before bereaved
Superintendent Melanie Jones said: "We were made aware of the plans for today's funeral and have engaged with the celebrant and service organisers to highlight both the public health advice and risks around Covid-19, and the requirement for those attending to adhere to social distancing. "We had assurances that those attending would observe the health guidelines and that marshals would be in place to encourage those lining the cortege route to observe social distancing.
"We will now review footage gathered during the funeral and will consider any suspected breaches of the Health Protection (Coronavirus Restrictions) Regulations NI 2020."
markodaly wrote: » https://www.rte.ie/news/2020/0707/1151774-politics-sinn-fein-paddy-holohan/ The first split of many. SF core support are made up of people like Paddy Holohan, it's just their leadership don't realise it yet.
Mortelaro wrote: » In other words were told! No discussion /QUOTE] Away you go on the fantasy again. The PSNI statement again: We were made aware of the plans for today's funeral and have engaged with the celebrant and service organisers to highlight both the public health advice and risks around Covid-19, and the requirement for those attending to adhere to social distancing. "We had assurances that those attending would observe the health guidelines and that marshals would be in place to encourage those lining the cortege route to observe social distancing. I.m fully behind people going to the funerals of their friends by the way. I think it a peculiar and kind of sick ask the Executive is making here, to ask somebody to apologise for going to a funeral.
We were made aware of the plans for today's funeral and have engaged with the celebrant and service organisers to highlight both the public health advice and risks around Covid-19, and the requirement for those attending to adhere to social distancing. "We had assurances that those attending would observe the health guidelines and that marshals would be in place to encourage those lining the cortege route to observe social distancing.
JohnnyFlash wrote: » It's not like SF have many councillors. That's the thing about SF. They definitely used social media to maximum effect during the election, and got the 'hop of the ball' on the day. But they have almost no party structures down the country, and when they do, it's a bunch of fat lads like the sort you saw in Belfast the last day. Think cheap cider, rollies, going to Wolfe Tones gigs, working as a bouncer, maybe a few tattoos they got in their 50's.
FrancieBrady wrote: » Driving home after with gay abandon?
JohnnyFlash wrote: » Not sure what you are getting at here, Francie.
FrancieBrady wrote: » Nobody said Varadkar broke the law, the conversation was around the signals he was sending after having being seen several times being loose with the regs.
Mortelaro wrote: » Speaking of which, SF have according to RTE accepted Cowens apology and left it at that Another side effect of the Belfast sit ye aisan,they are looking for magnamity it seems on the apology front Enough said
FrancieBrady wrote: » Or maybe they just accepted his apology. Get them lads out from under the bed Mort.
Mortelaro wrote: » I might go easy on theory if you stop inventing stuff about Vradakar being loose on regulations Deal?
JohnnyFlash wrote: » Does everyone agree that O’Neill should issue a full and forthright apology to her assembly colleagues on behalf of the SF party? I think so. This is a would that will continue to fester unless it is cauterised.
FrancieBrady wrote: » Varadker on a number of occasions was accused of being lax or even breaking the, at the time, stricter regs. It is a matter of your opinion and mine whether he did. Mine is, that the PR op in the warehouse were photographers can be seen breaking the social distancing requirements that he was lax in allowing that happen to get a publicity shot. you're He was again in the hospital photo ops.
He didn't show great leadership in the Park in my opinion nor since, running around like a calf let out to grass getting photos taken. My opinion...you'll just have to accept it. By the way, see the recurrent theme above? An addiction to the limelight and PR.
blanch152 wrote: » Absolutely 100% agree with this. We have seen Billy Kelliher apologise, and that was that. Now, his actions didn't result in funerals for ordinary people being cancelled. Some of the excuses put out here have been pathetic to say the least. One of the most ridiculous ones peddled was that Sinn Fein weren't responsible for cancelling the nine funerals - that it was the Council that did it. So IRA plant a bomb in a pub, phone in a bomb warning, pub owner clears pub and closes down for the night. When a punter complains about losing out on his nightly pint, IRA say it was the pub owners fault!!! Same thing here, if the SF carry-on with the double funeral for Bobby hadn't taken place, then the other funerals would not have been cancelled. Instead of weasly words, we need proper full apologies.
FrancieBrady wrote: » 'Standard procedure for high profile funerals' is the term they used. But the RA etc etc.
Mortelaro wrote: » That barrel scraping wS debunked It takes level 11 obsession to ignore the debunking At this stage my opinion is there's 3 or 4 people writing these posts and when one clocks off they don't bother checking back to see what the other has wrote
'Leadership in the park' L o fucking L,4 friends cannot sit out and meet up like human beings just because one is Tsoiseach? Pull the other one
FrancieBrady wrote: » Debunked by someone who is here defending FG and Varadkar to the hilt? Are you having a laugh? Your opinion differs to mine and others who criticised him. Get over it.
