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Covid19 Part XIX-25,802 in ROI (1,753 deaths) 5,859 in NI (556 deaths) (21/07)Read OP

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  • #1652
    owlbethere
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,329 ✭✭✭owlbethere


    I would be first in line to get the vaccine.


  • #1653
    fritzelly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,178 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    ACitizenErased wrote: »
    The Oxford vaccine was in production way before the pandemic started. They've been in production since January, a full month before the pandemic was declared.

    Still no one can yet say it is 100% safe - human trials have only started recently
    If I was in a vulnerable group I would probably chance it - as it is now I'm not in a risk group so will wait.
    Only last November I got my first flu jab - and only because it's been so long since I've had it I thought the dice are gonna roll against me soon.


  • #1654
    tom1ie
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,142 ✭✭✭✭tom1ie


    What Username Guidelines wrote: »
    Still not sure myself, but probably. I certainly won’t be offered it first but I am very interested to see how this will play out.

    When we were climbing up the wave, with 300+ cases per day, it dawned on me that there was never gonna be a watershed day when we all wake up and they say “you’re grand, back to normal life, covid is gone” until we get a vaccine.

    But, even when/if there is a vaccine, there still won’t be that day. Maybe there’ll be a time when they announce herd immunity has been reached via vaccine/infection. Who knows? I do wonder how previous flu pandemics “ended”, like the ‘58 and ‘68 pandemics. I know we didn’t shut down for those and there were vaccines produced, but at what point will most just feel comfortable about going about their everyday pre-covid lives again? Even with Swine flu they produced a vaccine very quickly, but I didn’t get it and there was no talk of the entire population needing it.

    Personally I’m getting far more comfortable about most things, but it hits home when I’m second guessing seeing parents and parents-in-law.

    Very good post. I’d be thinking along similar lines.


  • #1655
    tom1ie
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,142 ✭✭✭✭tom1ie


    s1ippy wrote: »
    Unfortunately he got confused about the "temperature gun".

    Very funny post I was going to pm you how funny that was but though better of it .............


  • #1656
    cnocbui
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,193 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    ACitizenErased wrote: »
    If I could take one of the vaccines in trials rn from Oxford or Moderna I would. Regular flu vaccine side effects.

    And then you got narcolepsy, and you were so close too.


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  • #1657
    DebDynamite
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,734 ✭✭✭DebDynamite


    ACitizenErased wrote: »
    The Oxford vaccine was in production way before the pandemic started. They've been in production since January, a full month before the pandemic was declared.

    What was the original reason they were working it?


  • #1658
    cnocbui
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,193 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    fritzelly wrote: »
    Isn't that Texas governor the one that basically said old people don't mind dying for the cause?

    Well that's 80% of the US Senate and 40% of Congress gone and the President. Anyone want an election?

    I shouldn't tease myself with such outrageous, wishful thinking, sniff.


  • #1659
    bb1234567
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,513 ✭✭✭bb1234567


    It's insane in Dublin city centre tonight- Dame Lane, Dame court, Wicklow Street, St William St etc. People absolutely spilling out of bars, entire lanes and roads black with crowds out drinking and partying. I could barely get my bike through Dame Court the crowd was so densely packed. Looks like St Patricks day or Pride. Gardai were around but nothing they could do really, can't enforce anything when it's thousands of people doing it


  • #1660
    Plumbthedepths
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    bb1234567 wrote: »
    It's insane in Dublin city centre tonight. People absolutely spilling out of bars, entire lanes and roads black with crowds out drinking and partying. Looks like St Patricks day or Pride. Gardai were around but nothing they could do really, can't enforce anything when it's thousands of people doing it
    This is why it was suggested that there would only be localised restrictions if there were spikes. The whole country cannot be locked down again because of the behaviour of people in Dublin or wherever. We can't afford to lock the state down again anyway.


  • #1661
    s1ippy
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,980 ✭✭✭s1ippy


    tom1ie wrote: »
    Very funny post I was going to pm you how funny that was but though better of it .............
    You should be busy writing your plan to reopen the schools seeing as it's so straightforward.


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  • #1662
    Santy2015
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,065 ✭✭✭Santy2015


    Absolutely nothing online in terms of pictures and only that one 7 second video of dame street. Type in Dublin into Twitter and that is the video doing the rounds..


  • #1663
    fritzelly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,178 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    bb1234567 wrote: »
    It's insane in Dublin city centre tonight- Dame Lane, Dame court, Wicklow Street, St William St etc. People absolutely spilling out of bars, entire lanes and roads black with crowds out drinking and partying. I could barely get my bike through Dame Court the crowd was so densely packed. Looks like St Patricks day or Pride. Gardai were around but nothing they could do really, can't enforce anything when it's thousands of people doing it

    Really? Looking at Temple Bar its dead


  • #1664
    stephenjmcd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,461 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    bb1234567 wrote: »
    It's insane in Dublin city centre tonight- Dame Lane, Dame court, Wicklow Street, St William St etc. People absolutely spilling out of bars, entire lanes and roads black with crowds out drinking and partying. I could barely get my bike through Dame Court the crowd was so densely packed. Looks like St Patricks day or Pride. Gardai were around but nothing they could do really, can't enforce anything when it's thousands of people doing it

    Dame Lane etc has been busy all day with people in the street. In the bars operating as restaurants the measures are in place. Issue seems to be walk ups being refused as places at capacity, these then getting take away pints and hanging around Dame Lane area.

    There's nothing the Gardaí can actually do about the people in the street.


  • #1665
    tom1ie
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,142 ✭✭✭✭tom1ie


    Plumbthedepths wrote: »
    This is why it was suggested that there would only be localised restrictions if there were spikes. The whole country cannot be locked down again because of the behaviour of people in Dublin or wherever. We can't afford to lock the state down again anyway.

    Agreed but how much National economic output do you lose by locking down Dublin.
    I would imagine it’s a large slice of the pie.
    So frustrating that this is happening but it was obvious this would happen to everyone on here.
    Numbers are low so we might get away with it but again with US and UK tourists coming over, Dublin City centre is an absolute breeding ground.
    And I mean for covid!


  • #1666
    tom1ie
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,142 ✭✭✭✭tom1ie


    s1ippy wrote: »
    You should be busy writing your plan to reopen the schools seeing as it's so straightforward.

    Grand. Let’s keep the conversation to forums instead of PM’s shall we.


  • #1667
    stephenjmcd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,461 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    fritzelly wrote: »
    Really? Looking at Temple Bar its dead

    Most places are shutting up about 10pm at the moment so it'll be quiet enough around. The issue is earlier this evening walk ups not getting in, seems to be more around the Dame Street area than anywhere else


  • #1668
    ShineOn7
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,550 ✭✭✭ShineOn7


    stephenjmcd wrote: »
    There's nothing the Gardaí can actually do about the people in the street.


    Surely there's a loophole there? Causing a disturbance to locals etc

    If a Guard wants a reason with pubs they can find one. It just sounds like they're not arsed


  • #1669
    tom1ie
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,142 ✭✭✭✭tom1ie


    stephenjmcd wrote: »
    Most places are shutting up about 10pm at the moment so it'll be quiet enough around. The issue is earlier this evening walk ups not getting in, seems to be more around the Dame Street area than anywhere else

    So there’s still a lot of people mixing is there?


  • #1670
    Plumbthedepths
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    tom1ie wrote: »
    Agreed but how much National economic output do you lose by locking down Dublin.
    I would imagine it’s a large slice of the pie.
    So frustrating that this is happening but it was obvious this would happen to everyone on here.
    Numbers are low so we might get away with it but again with US and UK tourists coming over, Dublin City centre is an absolute breeding ground.
    And I mean for covid!

    You're correct substantial amount but once you go outside Dublin people don't live on top of one another.
    Longest queue I've experienced throughout this crisis was less than 5 minutes. The joy of a rural existence with a choice of three reasonable sized towns in a 10 mile radius.


  • #1671
    Charles Babbage
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,537 ✭✭✭Charles Babbage


    gabeeg wrote: »
    Seems very odd that a body like HIQA would use data from a privately owned website to inform something like this.

    It says a lot about Irish death reporting. Doctors should be required to report deaths for statistical purposes even if the reporting for legal purposes is delayed.

    I also wonder about comparing 2020 with 2019. People are more and more likely to use the Internet every year, but in 2020 with people not bring allowed attend funerals the condolence book on RIP.ie became even important.

    Lastly, if one third of Covid stats had a serious illness that is much much more than the proportion of people with Covid. So we allowed ill people get Covid more then everyone else, which is a bad job.


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  • #1672
    stephenjmcd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,461 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    tom1ie wrote: »
    So there’s still a lot of people mixing is there?

    I was in town earlier, people are in their groups but given the size of Dame Lane and the area around there, there isn't much space.

    From mates working in there its cleared out in the last hour when places started shutting up as usual, PYG is open but closing in the next hour.


  • #1673
    JJayoo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,869 ✭✭✭JJayoo


    podgeandrodge wrote: »
    Did he tell if you he himself got checked?

    Since he arrived back he has been out visiting friends/family, I refused to see him as some family members would be in the vunerable group.

    Florida-Sligo -galway-kerry-dub- Galway
    World tour


  • #1674
    ShineOn7
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,550 ✭✭✭ShineOn7


    Wave 92 Incoming!1!

    https://twitter.com/BarryWhyte85/status/1279523136413761544

    Oh well. At least they're outdoors

    If we survive this and our wide open Airports to tourists without a spike then we must be made up of special stuff

    Let's see where this all leads in 2 to 3 weeks

    I'm personally, slowly, creeping back up to April/May levels of concern


  • #1675
    Polar101
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,050 ✭✭✭Polar101


    cnocbui wrote: »
    And then you got narcolepsy, and you were so close too.

    But you would have got a free 5G chip from Bill Gates, so your mobile bills will go down. At least I assume that's going to be included, and why wouldn't it be since we know the likely side effects already?:rolleyes:


  • #1676
    bb1234567
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,513 ✭✭✭bb1234567


    fritzelly wrote: »
    Really? Looking at Temple Bar its dead

    It was very much concentrated on the lanes around Dame Street and South William Street, but yeh super busy

    ShineOn posted a vid up above^
    Really was busiest I've seen it other than on festival days like Pride or Paddys Day!


  • #1677
    Eod100
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,257 ✭✭✭✭Eod100


    ShineOn7 wrote: »
    Wave 92 Incoming!1!

    https://twitter.com/BarryWhyte85/status/1279523136413761544

    Oh well. At least they're outdoors

    If we survive this and our wide open Airports to tourists without a spike then we must be made up of special stuff

    Let's see where this all leads in 2 to 3 weeks

    Are pubs just serving anyone that comes in then once they drink outside? Madness tbh


  • #1678
    stephenjmcd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,461 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    Eod100 wrote: »
    Are pubs just serving anyone that comes in then once they drink outside? Madness tbh

    Non food pubs have been serving takeaway pints for the last week weeks and have kept doing it this week.


  • #1679
    tom1ie
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,142 ✭✭✭✭tom1ie


    ShineOn7 wrote: »
    Wave 92 Incoming!1!

    https://twitter.com/BarryWhyte85/status/1279523136413761544

    Oh well. At least they're outdoors

    If we survive this and our wide open Airports to tourists without a spike then we must be made up of special stuff

    Let's see where this all leads in 2 to 3 weeks

    I'm personally creeping back up to April/May levels of concern

    Ah ffs!
    Beaches in the uk and idiots in Florida and Texas spring to mind.
    Hope this doesn’t flare up.
    Why take the fcuking risk?!


  • #1680
    fr336
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,179 ✭✭✭✭fr336


    To be fair everything worked out well the last time people were irresponsible and got shoulder to shoulder in a crowd of strangers


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  • #1681
    ACitizenErased
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,767 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    fritzelly wrote: »
    Still no one can yet say it is 100% safe - human trials have only started recently
    If I was in a vulnerable group I would probably chance it - as it is now I'm not in a risk group so will wait.
    Only last November I got my first flu jab - and only because it's been so long since I've had it I thought the dice are gonna roll against me soon.

    Oxford trials are in phase 3, the very last phase of human trials. They didn’t just start.


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