Covid19 Part XIX-25,802 in ROI (1,753 deaths) 5,859 in NI (556 deaths) (21/07)Read OP

Jim_Hodge wrote: »

Italy reports 79 as serious/critical.

Yes ,indeed. Higher numbers in Spain but still one percent of their total are seriously ill.

Be right back wrote: »

Yes ,indeed. Higher numbers in Spain but still one percent of their total are seriously ill.

I'm sorry, must be missing something but how is 79 1% of 15000?

ShineOn7 wrote: »

Hasn't the Winter/Summer/weather thing been completely discounted as to having an effect on the virus?

For example, Australia are in their Winter and no surges there

No, it certainly hasn't. Not according to the CDC which has warned about the seasonal implications of spread and is preparing on the basis of a late Autumn surge.

What's going on in the southern hemisphere needs to get much greater attention.

Australia is closed off and very sparsely populated yet they are still seeing outbreaks.

Elsewhere is in really bad shape at the moment. South America and South Africa are riddled with this since the end of their Autumn.

Irish Aris wrote: »

also maybe because they are in the middle of winter?

Winter in Africa is relative.

Be right back wrote: »

I said numbers just under 15k, at 14,884. According to the Worldometer anyway.!

79 is half a percent

CMO: "We are fighting two wars - one is the virus, and the other war is stupidity; there is a lot of people out there really... I don't know how those people are alive"

ACitizenErased wrote: »

79 is half a percent

Better again! It's good to see that Italy aren't doing too badly compared to a few months ago.

Just heard on rye news students in USA (Didn’t catch the state) are throwing COVID party’s. They invite a person that has c19 to a house party and then they “reward” the person who has caught it at the next house party.

What. The. ****.
I really hope that’s fake news.

tom1ie wrote: »

Just heard on rye news students in USA (Didn’t catch the state) are throwing COVID party’s. They invite a person that has c19 to a house party and then they “reward” the person who has caught it at the next house party.

What. The. ****.
I really hope that’s fake news.

That urban myth is circulating since New York was at it's peak. The state gets changed depending on the numbers every week.

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

In the US, Arizona reports less than 9% ICU beds capacity remains which is only 156, but they will probably have some overflow capacity. Texas is already diverting patients to overflow facilities.

The rise in ER admissions in Arizona is striking in the last couple of days, the big epicenter by a long shot is Pheonix...



The big message here from across these states is how quickly this escalates, it can't be hammered home enough and that's in the middle of summer.

If that was winter and in tandem with flu season then...

I just want to point out having been in these states a few times that their demographics and ours are very different. There are a huge amount of very poor, unhealthy and morbidly obese people living in these regions, particularly Texas where it wasn’t unusual to see people using mobiles around supermarkets doing a shop instead of walking.
Coupled with this, Texas has only just introduced social distancing recently, and had bars and nightclubs open. As a matter of fact, anytime I see the States on the news, I see very little effort at social distancing or any control measures. All I see are some masks (some of which are on chins) and that’s about it.
These states also didn’t get a wave 1 which I note you also didn’t point out. This is their first wave.
So to conclude, parts of the US are now experiencing their first wave of Covid, they put in place very little if any restrictions, and have a different demographic to us re health and well-being. Context is key.

CruelSummer wrote: »

I just want to point out having been in these states a few times that their demographics and ours are very different. There are a huge amount of very poor, unhealthy and morbidly obese people living in these regions, particularly Texas where it wasn’t unusual to see people using mobiles around supermarkets doing a shop instead of walking.
Coupled with this, Texas has only just introduced social distancing recently, and had bars and nightclubs open. As a matter of fact, anytime I see the States on the news, I see very little effort at social distancing or any control measures. All I see are some masks (some of which are on chins) and that’s about it.
These states also didn’t get a wave 1 which I note you also didn’t point out. This is their first wave.
So to conclude, parts of the US are now experiencing their first wave of Covid, they put in place very little if any restrictions, and have a different demographic to us re health and well-being. Context is key.

The context you want to give is key you mean?

CruelSummer wrote: »

I don’t agree. Why are we continuing social distancing indefinitely and at what cost? If there are hardly any cases of Covid in Ireland for months, why are we still making a mess of society by implementing this nonsense?
No one asked us voters if we agreed with it, and if it was a good idea long term considering the damage it will do.

I'll take my context from someone who doesn't think continued social distancing is making a mess of society.

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

Context and naunce are deliberately omitted by the poster you responded to. He has an agenda which has been obvious for weeks now.

Firstly, I don't have an agenda.

Secondly, perhaps you might consider more time on posts rather than posters? :rolleyes:

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

My reply was in relation to the lack of context your posts provide , as was pointed out to you by no less than 3 other posters here today. Two of whom have been consistent with their posting behaviour providing context to what they post whether of a negative or positive nature.
You clearly do have an agenda and it's hilarious to see you deny it.

That's just a lie though about context. You just don't like the content. If you have a problem with my posts just use the ignore button.

You complain yet still read them.

You would be better off attending to individual posts instead of their authors in my humble opinion.

Rob A. Bank wrote: »

Following their initial anti mandatory mask stance, our experts seem to be waiting for bulletproof scientific evidence for mask use in stemming the spread of the virus.

However this is not possible without conducting Auschwitz style immoral and unethical studies, where you spray covid on a few people in masked and unmasked groups and see what happens.

A good recent summation of the rational and science behind universal mask use from the University of California. The evidence is becoming overwhelming.

"What may have finally convinced the CDC to change its guidance in favor of masks were rising disease prevalence and a clearer understanding that both pre-symptomatic and asymptomatic transmission are possible – even common. Studies have found that viral load peaks in the days before symptoms begin and that speaking is enough to expel virus-carrying droplets.

“I think the biggest thing with COVID now that shapes all of this guidance on masks is that we can’t tell who’s infected,” said Chin-Hong. “You can’t look in a crowd and say, oh, that person should wear mask. There’s a lot of asymptomatic infection, so everybody has to wear a mask.”"

Apparently it’s what drives the success of contract tracing in South Korea. If someone tests positive, they can very easily find their contacts at home, workplace, etc. But would not be able to trace who they sat next on a bus for their commute. They’re confident that if everyone wears masks in public and on transport, etc., that their tracing is very effective.