Covid19 Part XVIII-25,473 in ROI(1,736 deaths) 5,760 in NI (551 deaths)(30/06)Read OP

drunkmonkey · 28-06-2020 05:23PM

Gael23 wrote: »

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/politics/coronavirus-holohan-beyond-nervous-about-increase-in-overseas-travel-1.4289641
We don’t all earn €175k to pay Irish hotel prices

If you can't afford a holiday here on the island you can't afford a foreign one either. There's accomodation within everyones budget.

fritzelly · 28-06-2020 05:29PM

drunkmonkey wrote: »

If you can't afford a holiday here on the island you can't afford a foreign one either. There's accomodation within everyones budget.

Yeah if you don't mind staying in an hostel

28-06-2020 05:32PM

drunkmonkey wrote: »

If you can't afford a holiday here on the island you can't afford a foreign one either. There's accomodation within everyones budget.

That is just not true. For like for like accommodation, the value and quality elsewhere is Europe is in a different league

fritzelly · 28-06-2020 05:34PM

I always try to book apartments when on holiday (abroad)

Dingle - 2k for the week

I could book 2 weeks away in the Carribean for that AI

WhiteMemento9 · 28-06-2020 05:40PM

fritzelly wrote: »

I always try to book apartments when on holiday (abroad)

I could book 2 weeks away in the Carribean for that AI

Why did you choose the most expensive one on the list of four? This one is 679.

Even at that I don't think choosing an area with only 4 apartments listed on the site is generally a good gauge of what is available in terms of value in Ireland. It is almost like you are trying to come up with facts to suit an agenda. You wouldn't do that?

DebDynamite · 28-06-2020 05:42PM

Polar101 wrote: »

Things changed quickly from "let's open the economy and help Irish businesses by holidaying in Ireland" to "let's support the aviation industry, Ireland is a rip-off".

When I go on holidays, I don't pretend it's for the greater good.

Unfortunately, by supporting the aviation industry, we could also be making other industries suffer. Bringing back international travel is a huge risk. Our biggest tourist markets are the US and the UK, but do we really want them over here? Without them, the amount of tourists from the rest of Europe will probably be minimal and won’t be worth opening the floodgates for, for fear of going back into (albeit hopefully) localised lockdown. Surely the majority of us can see that living in some sort of semblance of normality in this country for the next few months and keeping things open is worth it for the sake of a weekend/10 days somewhere in Europe, or the bit of business we’ll get from European tourists. Tourism is dead for this year. I don’t even know anyone who’s planning on flying this year.

tom1ie · 28-06-2020 05:48PM

DebDynamite wrote: »

Unfortunately, by supporting the aviation industry, we could also be making other industries suffer. Bringing back international travel is a huge risk. Our biggest tourist markets are the US and the UK, but do we really want them over here? Without them, the amount of tourists from the rest of Europe will probably be minimal and won’t be worth opening the floodgates for, for fear of going back into (albeit) localised lockdown. Surely the majority of us can see that living in some sort of semblance of normality in this country for the next few months and keeping things open is worth it for the sake of a weekend/10 days somewhere in Europe, or the bit of business we’ll get from European tourists. Tourism is dead for this year. I don’t even know anyone who’s planning on flying this year.

Couldn’t agree more.
There really is some people in Ireland who think of no one but themselves.
Forgoe your 10 days abroad for the sake of keeping the virus levels low in Ireland ffs.

fritzelly · 28-06-2020 05:52PM

WhiteMemento9 wrote: »

Why did you choose the most expensive one on the list of four? This one is 679.

Even at that I don't think choosing an area with only 4 apartments listed on the site is generally a good gauge of what is available in terms of value in Ireland. It is almost like you are trying to come up with facts to suit an agenda. You wouldn't do that?

Not bad - not all that great if you don't drive but nice apartment - in Malaga I pay about 500 for a penthouse apartment, minutes from the beach 10 minutes by train from the airport and almost guaranteed sun

Point of the post was even with nobody booking they are still charging inordinate amounts. The Yanks may pay those kind of figures but they aren't coming this yer

Marty Bird · 28-06-2020 05:52PM

drunkmonkey wrote: »

If you can't afford a holiday here on the island you can't afford a foreign one either. There's accomodation within everyones budget.

It’s not just the high prices here for accommodation add in the high cost to eat out and drink.

Micky 32 · 28-06-2020 05:54PM

tom1ie wrote: »

Forgoe your 10 days abroad for the sake of keeping the virus levels low in Ireland ffs.

The virus isn’t going anywhere and no guarantee of a vaccine. So i’m curious , how many years do you have in mind we should forgoe for? 10/20/30 years?

stephenjmcd · 28-06-2020 05:59PM

Micky 32 wrote: »

The virus isn’t going anywhere and no guarantee of a vaccine. So i’m curious , how many years do you have in mind to forgoe? 10/20/30 years?

Or if people have the money they could do both if they so wished. Now not everyone can or will be able to do that.

I'm doing 2 nights down in Galway early July and later in the summer end of August / start of September 7 nights in Lanzarote. Both will probably end up costing the same though. Got the flights for €140, the apartment for €250 each. Galway was €450 for 2 nights.

Looking forward to both.

drunkmonkey · 28-06-2020 06:08PM

Marty Bird wrote: »

It’s not just the high prices here for accommodation add in the high cost to eat out and drink.

Come on now nobody has been in a pub or restraunt for months they can afford a week or two here if they were saving for holidays.

stephenjmcd · 28-06-2020 06:11PM

drunkmonkey wrote: »

Come on now nobody has been in a pub or restraunt for months they can afford a week or two here if they were saving for holidays.

Ah come off it there's not many people/families that could afford to stay in Ireland for 2 weeks now. Firstly the cost of accommodation and then the cost of everything else that goes with it, eating out, activities etc.

If you're getting a house and prepared to cook etc then yes it brings the cost down but a 2 week holiday in Ireland isn't that affordable in general.

Just because pubs and restaurants were closed doesn't mean people saved more money. Most people I know put the money into doing up their homes during lockdown, they didn't keep it for a 2 week Irish holiday

Plumbthedepths · 28-06-2020 06:11PM

drunkmonkey wrote: »

If you can't afford a holiday here on the island you can't afford a foreign one either. There's accomodation within everyones budget.

Stupid comment tbh. I went on holiday to Italy last year with my wife. Car hire, flights and accommodation total cost for 10 days was €900.
I have looked at some so called deals here in Ireland, €350 for 2 days. I will be on a flight as soon as no non essential travel advice is lifted.

Newtown90 · 28-06-2020 06:13PM

fritzelly wrote: »

I always try to book apartments when on holiday (abroad)

Dingle - 2k for the week

I could book 2 weeks away in the Carribean for that AI

Book something within your budget and stop bashing..

Lots of businesses have additional running costs, loans to pay back, people to pay to clean and maintain - they all have to families and mouths to feed...

If you can't afford it then don't bother looking at it, plenty can afford it and they'll book it without a blink of an eye lid.

fritzelly · 28-06-2020 06:14PM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

There's not many people that could afford to stay in Ireland for 2 weeks now. Firstly the cost of accommodation and then the cost of everything else that goes with it, eating out etc.

If you're getting a house and prepared to cook etc then yes it brings the cost down but a 2 week holiday in Ireland isn't that affordable in general

And who goes away to cook and wash up every day - not my idea of an holiday

ShineOn7 · 28-06-2020 06:14PM

Renjit wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=433b5RJ9BME

I got as far as the third person on that video

Speaking the very obvious, but America is completely and utterly fúcked

tom1ie · 28-06-2020 06:15PM

Micky 32 wrote: »

The virus isn’t going anywhere and no guarantee of a vaccine. So i’m curious , how many years do you have in mind we should forgoe for? 10/20/30 years?

As long as it takes.
We will hopefully have a vaccine soon to get us to 60-70% immunity. That will take care of the virus as long as immunity can be gained.

A holiday abroad is a luxury.
Protecting a vulnerable person is a necessity.

stephenjmcd · 28-06-2020 06:16PM

fritzelly wrote: »

And who goes away to cook and wash up every day - not my idea of an holiday

nor mine, while its handy to rent a house for a few days somewhere and it would bring the cost of the trip down,, the simple point is a 2 week holiday as the poster was suggesting in Ireland isn't affordable really.

drunkmonkey · 28-06-2020 06:17PM

Newtown90 wrote: »

Book something within your budget and stop bashing..

Exactly. When in Rome Lisdoonvarna...

tom1ie · 28-06-2020 06:17PM

fritzelly wrote: »

And who goes away to cook and wash up every day - not my idea of an holiday

So Instead of you having to cook and wash up, means you are willing to travel to a country where you have a higher risk of catching c19 and bringing it back to Ireland where you could potentially pass it on to someone vulnerable.
Have I got that right?

J Mysterio · 28-06-2020 06:17PM

fritzelly wrote: »

I always try to book apartments when on holiday (abroad)

Dingle - 2k for the week

I could book 2 weeks away in the Carribean for that AI

Most aren't 2k though, are they? You can get them in and around 700 for a week, per your link, no problem.

You are quoting the most expensive, which are rated 'exceptional'.

Honestly, im going to have to unfollow this thread. People are told better not to go on holiday for one summer and they all react like spoilt brats. Infuriating.

stephenjmcd · 28-06-2020 06:19PM

J Mysterio wrote: »

Most aren't 2k though, are they? You can get them in and around 700 for a week, per your link, no problem.

You are quoting the most expensive, which are rated 'exceptional'.

Honestly, im going to have to unfollow this thread. People are told better not to go on holiday for one summer and they all react like spoilt brats. Infuriating.

Or they react like people who are going to lose all the money on flights and accommodation that they've paid for if they don't go. Thats hardly spoilt now is it ?? The flight goes and the accommodation is open then your screwed, no money back.

2 sides of it really. Some people can't afford to lose the money. There's plenty examples on other threads here. Its go or lose the lot, that's the decision some are faced with

Micky 32 · 28-06-2020 06:20PM

tom1ie wrote: »

As long as it takes.
.

I thought as much

Well i have family abroad that’s the main reason i travel and it’s the longest i haven’t seen them in 15 years. I’ll give it a miss for the rest of this year but vaccine or not i will be chancing next year without a doubt while taking the obvious precautions as much as i can.

WhiteMemento9 · 28-06-2020 06:22PM

fritzelly wrote: »

Not bad - not all that great if you don't drive but nice apartment - in Malaga I pay about 500 for a penthouse apartment, minutes from the beach 10 minutes by train from the airport and almost guaranteed sun

Point of the post was even with nobody booking they are still charging inordinate amounts. The Yanks may pay those kind of figures but they aren't coming this yer

The world has changed though for the time being. Comparing them doesn't make sense. We all have things we used to do that we would love were possible right now but considering the real plight of so many people in this country struggling to just get by then making the best where we can is the least people can do who are fortunate enough now to be in that kind of situation.

fritzelly · 28-06-2020 06:24PM

tom1ie wrote: »

So Instead of you having to cook and wash up, means you are willing to travel to a country where you have a higher risk of catching c19 and bringing it back to Ireland where you could potentially pass it on to someone vulnerable.
Have I got that right?

There is a one in 2+ million chance of currently catching it in the e.g. Malaga area - just about as much chance of catching it in Ireland

WhiteMemento9 · 28-06-2020 06:25PM

J Mysterio wrote: »

Honestly, im going to have to unfollow this thread. People are told better not to go on holiday for one summer and they all react like spoilt brats. Infuriating.

Are people this insulated in there own bubble that they think talking about the value they used to get in a penthouse apartment compared to what they can get here is something they think of as a real problem. If someone talked to me in real life in the kind of way about these problems during what the country is currently facing I would walk away thinking that person must be one of the most self involved, narrastist I have ever met.

fritzelly · 28-06-2020 06:27PM

J Mysterio wrote: »

Most aren't 2k though, are they? You can get them in and around 700 for a week, per your link, no problem.

You are quoting the most expensive, which are rated 'exceptional'.

Honestly, im going to have to unfollow this thread. People are told better not to go on holiday for one summer and they all react like spoilt brats. Infuriating.

The majority are 700 minimum, 1000+ is more the norm
I go away on holiday to stay somewhere nice not live in a shack

(p.s. won't be going back to Dingle any time soon anyway - one of the most overpriced places in Ireland)

ACitizenErased · 28-06-2020 06:28PM

I’m all for international travel but not sure why people are concerned about the airlines here - they’ve shown very little care for people over the last few weeks. Horror stories on the internet about different airlines threatening customers with no refunds and forcing people to fly. I’ve no sympathy for the companies.

ShineOn7 · 28-06-2020 06:34PM

WoollyRedHat wrote: »

'An analysis of three Covid-19 outbreaks: how they happened and how they can be avoided'

https://english.elpais.com/spanish_news/2020-06-17/an-analysis-of-three-covid-19-outbreaks-how-they-happened-and-how-they-can-be-avoided.html

Great link and very easy to follow with the clear diagrams

Covid19 Part XVIII-25,473 in ROI(1,736 deaths) 5,760 in NI (551 deaths)(30/06)Read OP

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