Covid19 Part XVIII-25,473 in ROI(1,736 deaths) 5,760 in NI (551 deaths)(30/06)Read OP

ShineOn7 wrote: »

And yet I heard an expert on the radio this week say it was the other way around, that washing hands was more important than masks. Can't remember which expert or station as the talk shows seem to have a fair few of them doing the rounds

So, for me anyway, the best and most sensible policy is to do both

Your expert isn't as expert as you think.

Record cases in the US for the 3rd day in a row - 40,173.
And that’s what exponential growth looks like.

ACitizenErased wrote: »

Record cases in the US for the 3rd day in a row - 40,173.
And that’s what exponential growth looks like.

CDC said yesterday that they now believe that the true number of infections in the US is more like 23 million. So really it seems that the number of daily new cases detected is pretty irrelevant really. Its clearly been spreading unnoticed for a while to get to that level and for every one case they confirm, there are 10 cases that aren't tested at all.

Away With The Fairies wrote: »

The sister was away on holidays, came back with a flu. Pretty sure there's no such thing as contagious hayfever.

Maybe this might be good enough for you, this can affect every organ in the body. Can also cause eye issues, if you remember Mary Lou talking about her experience on the late late show. This disease has so many different symptoms. But I forgot, boards knows best.

https://www.aol.com/article/news/2020/06/26/scientists-just-beginning-to-understand-the-many-health-problems-caused-by-covid-19/24537809/?fbclid=IwAR1Hv7fL_-8Pri3vyOuhsiw8vp3x_ntdydCcD_T1s97c0tC9mTuHejZRcDo&guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly9tLmZhY2Vib29rLmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAM75UVEMnxLPXrXJ-ZKAiw0ENZQ0alst2SOKQAJDiQAli3mEqR2fqKb5eZL4dzgz9MFQh4E-t-JWQBFpSlZsVHSvuodq6zZCpuE1duTSleWUvP3GXab7ws8NJJxXuCknFR4ooWYKDZ6f5z1Bopdf2aOKqbDrXTjqgGWpXSJcZ_jX

I say if you had 50 Siblings, there’d be something wrong with every single one of them. You’re like a wet sponge that needs a good drenching out.

Light at the end of the tunnel ?

Far-UVC Light Safely Kills Airborne Coronaviruses

Conventional germicidal UVC light (254 nm wavelength) can be used to disinfect unoccupied spaces such as empty hospital rooms or empty subway cars, but direct exposure to these conventional UV lamps is not possible in occupied public spaces, as this could be a health hazard to skin and eyes.

To continuously and safely disinfect occupied indoor areas, researchers at Columbia University Irving Medical Center have been investigating far-UVC light (222 nm wavelength). Far-UVC light cannot penetrate the tear layer of the eye or the outer dead-cell layer of skin and so it cannot reach or damage living cells in the body.

The researchers had previously shown that far-UVC light can safely kill airborne influenza viruses and more recently seasonal coronaviruses. These viruses are structurally similar to the SARS-CoV-2 virus that causes COVID-19. In a separate ongoing study, the researchers are testing the efficacy of far-UVC light against airborne SARS-CoV-2. Preliminary data suggest that far-UVC light is just as effective at killing SARS-CoV-2.

“Because it’s safe to use in occupied spaces like hospitals, buses, planes, trains, train stations, schools, restaurants, offices, theaters, gyms, and anywhere that people gather indoors, far-UVC light could be used in combination with other measures, like wearing face masks and washing hands, to limit the transmission of SARS-CoV-2 and other viruses.”

Press release :- https://www.cuimc.columbia.edu/news/far-uvc-light-safely-kills-airborne-coronaviruses

Published report in Nature :- https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-020-67211-2

cnocbui wrote: »

If I give you a fiver, would you quit with the optimism? I'ts selfish people like you who are the problem and will prevent us reaching 0.

That's an absurd comment. And I'm not sure you meant optimism, although I am confident about the future. What did I say or do that was selfish? I've been more or less cocooned at home for months and haven't even hugged my grandchildren. When in a shop (once a week at most) I wear a mask.
I simply pointed out that a test positivity rate of 0 is improbable, as the virus is not eliminated and will not be eliminated until we have a vaccine.

So, keep your insults for those that may deserve them.

Rob A. Bank wrote: »

Light at the end of the tunnel ?

Far-UVC Light Safely Kills Airborne Coronaviruses

Conventional germicidal UVC light (254 nm wavelength) can be used to disinfect unoccupied spaces such as empty hospital rooms or empty subway cars, but direct exposure to these conventional UV lamps is not possible in occupied public spaces, as this could be a health hazard to skin and eyes.

To continuously and safely disinfect occupied indoor areas, researchers at Columbia University Irving Medical Center have been investigating far-UVC light (222 nm wavelength). Far-UVC light cannot penetrate the tear layer of the eye or the outer dead-cell layer of skin and so it cannot reach or damage living cells in the body.

The researchers had previously shown that far-UVC light can safely kill airborne influenza viruses and more recently seasonal coronaviruses. These viruses are structurally similar to the SARS-CoV-2 virus that causes COVID-19. In a separate ongoing study, the researchers are testing the efficacy of far-UVC light against airborne SARS-CoV-2. Preliminary data suggest that far-UVC light is just as effective at killing SARS-CoV-2.

“Because it’s safe to use in occupied spaces like hospitals, buses, planes, trains, train stations, schools, restaurants, offices, theaters, gyms, and anywhere that people gather indoors, far-UVC light could be used in combination with other measures, like wearing face masks and washing hands, to limit the transmission of SARS-CoV-2 and other viruses.”

Press release :- https://www.cuimc.columbia.edu/news/far-uvc-light-safely-kills-airborne-coronaviruses

Published report in Nature :- https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-020-67211-2

Yeah, this has been known for quite a while. There are already some normal UV solutions out there. One thing about this form is that you do not want to anywhere near it or it'll mess with your cells as well in a very bad way. It is a preferable option to something like distancing and face masks, which we cannot do forever.

Away With The Fairies wrote: »

The sister was away on holidays, came back with a flu. Pretty sure there's no such thing as contagious hayfever.

Maybe this might be good enough for you, this can affect every organ in the body. Can also cause eye issues, if you remember Mary Lou talking about her experience on the late late show. This disease has so many different symptoms. But I forgot, boards knows best.

One would imagine there is a genetic component in your sister's ability to attract disease. We have one of those too just as there others who could stand up to being flattened by a train. I wouldn't be too quick to take a swing at the users here, it includes you too!

kippy wrote: »

No, people are idiots. Myself included.
If you start with that perspective, then five them the opportunity to prove you wrong.

Clearly anyone who uses the logic outlined in that specific video to argue against wearing a face mask is an idiot.
So you refute this?
There are lots of people who don't think like me.

I didn't watch the video because I don't have an awful lot of interest in what she might have to say. At a guess she's very angry and angry people often do not make much sense but I don't have any interest in making sweeping judgements about the person herself. The mask wearing is a choice in our situation save in specific circumstances. I respect that.

kippy wrote: »

They are all idiots, using the logic that they are using.
I don't really care one way or another about mask wearing but the spreading of the logic in that video could and no doubt does influence what others do.
So again, I wouldn't hang my hat on defending the idiots in that video specifically if I were you.

I am defending her right to have that opinion, I really don't share that militancy they have in the US towards masks. As for video, this is the danger of it, it can set out what the message it chooses. From personal experience during this it can also be consumed unthinkingly by people, who are otherwise smart in their lives.

Just watched a segment on Sky News about Britain negotiating air bridges.

They seem to be of the impression that countries are rushing to let in British holiday makers and that it's the British government who will decide around the world who is blessed with their tourists.

Not once mentioned that any country might say no. You'd almost think other countries had no choice in the matter.

is_that_so wrote: »

Yeah, this has been known for quite a while. There are already some normal UV solutions out there. One thing about this form is that you do not want to anywhere near it or it'll mess with your cells as well in a very bad way. It is a preferable option to something like distancing and face masks, which we cannot do forever.

Far UV-C is fine. It wont mess with your cells.
https://www.cuimc.columbia.edu/news/far-uvc-light-safely-kills-airborne-coronaviruses