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Covid19 Part XVIII-25,473 in ROI(1,736 deaths) 5,760 in NI (551 deaths)(30/06)Read OP

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  • #8132
    mandrake04
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,435 ✭✭✭mandrake04


    fritzelly wrote: »
    Have you a link to that because it's BS (Prof O'Neill is never one to change his mind depending on what is happening)

    Simple example - we get jabs for common stuff like measles, it never has a chance to infect us but guess what - it gives us immunity for life

    I won't even go in to the other studies showing the common cold gives us antibodies to fight off coronavirus

    found it

    https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/highlights-from-the-pat-kenny-show/id698050979?i=1000479659903

    fritzelly wrote: »
    Were you listening to him at the start when he said nothing to worry about, we're all grand in Ireland - laughing away at the suggestion we might have a problem?

    Guy is a fool who for some reason gets paraded around the various TV/Radio shows for some ungodly reason and never brought to task about anything he has said in the past (and when I say past I'm talking about only weeks ago)

    He is a jovial character but I think he just overly simplifies stuff for people like yourself, he is definitely no dope Prof of Immunology at Trinity... where as on this subject you are nothing really in comparison...really insignificant.


  • #8133
    MerlinSouthDub
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 1,632 ✭✭✭MerlinSouthDub


    Confirmed cases in hospital is showing as 24 at 8 a.m this morning - see here:

    https://covid19ireland-geohive.hub.arcgis.com/


  • #8134
    owlbethere
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,329 ✭✭✭owlbethere


    is_that_so wrote: »
    I'm sure the same was said about you when you were of that cohort, though maybe in less graphic terms! People need some release from this and it's better they are out in hot sunshine doing it.

    We're in the middle of a global pandemic where meeting in large crowds is a huge risk factor for picking up this infection.

    If people want a release from all this, what's wrong with picking up a book?
    Or taking a walk in nature?
    Or getting crafty and perhaps paint a picture or write their own music or picking up any other hobby.

    There's nothing wrong with meeting in a small group where you know people and keeping some distance apart from other people that are not in your household.


    The video that was shared, that's a problem in that there's many youngsters there and they might be living at home with parents and perhaps younger siblings and other family members so their families are at risk. Did they seek permission from their parents or did they lie to go out lie that? If parents are unaware, there could be a problem in a few weeks because of being unaware of a possible covid19 exposure.

    Also not very great considering the point where we are not at opening up, moving about more, more people becoming relaxed with hygiene guidelines. The covid19 could kick off again here. I hope not.


  • #8135
    cnocbui
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,342 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    Onesea wrote: »
    5000 per day! Wow. So many must have it.

    The US will be one of the first countries to achieve herd immunity. A family in Texas had a surprise birthday party and now 18 of them are infected. https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/health/health-problems/coronavirus-us-texan-familys-surprise-party-infects-18-guests/news-story/029726d1f8f5ab39810133d7d3dd5a84


  • #8136
    Boggles
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42,959 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    hmmm wrote: »
    There have been several big contracts already signed for vaccines. Astra Zeneca alone is planning on 1.4 billion doses minimum, similarly Moderna/Lanza 1 billion (minimum), J&J probably another billion or two then you have Pfizer, Sanofi, Innovio etc. That's also not counting what the Chinese will do with their vaccines, I expect them to produce billions of doses also.

    I'll be first in line for the vaccine when it's available to me, both for me personally and for my community. If other people don't want to get it, that moves me up the line - happy days. Will probably book a holiday abroad for the week after :) The Oxford/Astra Zeneca vaccine in particular is based on existing technology already used in vaccines provided by them, as are some of the others such as J&J, Sanofi etc.

    Yep, they are all aspirations at the moment, but even by their extremely ambitious timeline distribution to countries will reach the end of quarter 1 and into quarter 2 of next year.

    Alas, none of those vaccines have been proven to be

    A. Effective
    B. Safe
    C. None have approval.

    But even if they are distribution and administering the vaccine will take like I said most of next year. With the end of next year and most of 2022 to prove their effectiveness.

    The York Times did a great question and answer piece a couple of weeks ago.

    Can a Vaccine for Covid-19 Be Developed in Record Time?

    Longish read, but worth it.

    Sanofi are an interesting company, they seem to be taking the more slow approach, and as know from previous vaccines and drugs, rarely does the first ones ever go on to be the most effective and widely used.


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  • #8137
    ixoy
    Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 18,062 Mod ✭✭✭✭ixoy


    owlbethere wrote: »
    If people want a release from all this, what's wrong with picking up a book?
    Or taking a walk in nature?
    Or getting crafty and perhaps paint a picture or write their own music or picking up any other hobby.
    Because they're solo activities and a lot of people would much prefer more social activities and wouldn't find those interesting. I enjoy solo hobbies but I recognise many do not.
    There's nothing wrong with meeting in a small group where you know people and keeping some distance apart from other people that are not in your household.
    In theory yes, but in practice people are social creatures and I think a more viable option is people meeting in small groups who won't, realistically, be social distancing.
    The restaurants and pubs are a good example - do you honestly really think everyone at a table is really going to be from the same household? Of course they aren't, which is why right now we've got a limit on the table numbers which is a compromise.


  • #8138
    Non solum non ambulabit
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,089 ✭✭✭Non solum non ambulabit


    MerlinSouthDub wrote: »
    Confirmed cases in hospital is showing as 24 at 8 a.m this morning - see here:

    https://covid19ireland-geohive.hub.arcgis.com/

    Wow. 24 people. I defy anyone to spin that negatively.


  • #8139
    petes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,382 ✭✭✭petes


    Non solum non ambulabit wrote: »
    Wow. 24 people. I defy anyone to spin that negatively.

    Pity it's not 23 :pac:


  • #8140
    KrustyUCC
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,109 ✭✭✭KrustyUCC


    Non solum non ambulabit wrote: »
    Wow. 24 people. I defy anyone to spin that negatively.

    24 too many?

    It's a brilliant number in comparison to what we had

    Really positive and hopefully it will keep decreasing


  • #8141
    Seven Septs
    Closed Accounts Posts: 145 ✭✭Seven Septs


    See that the UKMO hints of possible thunderstorms in the Midlands and North Midlands this afternoon.

    No July 1983, 25 July 1985, 29 June 1986, 29 July 1991, 25 August 2000 type storm for the south midlands last night.


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  • #8142
    drunkmonkey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,328 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    KrustyUCC wrote: »
    24 too many?

    It's a brilliant number in comparison to what we had

    Really positive and hopefully it will keep decreasing

    Is it decreasing as the dead people are freeing up beds, we've had a few deaths nearly every day.


  • #8143
    Cork Boy 53
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,829 ✭✭✭Cork Boy 53


    Seven Septs wrote: »
    See that the UKMO hints of possible thunderstorms in the Midlands and North Midlands this afternoon.

    No July 1983, 25 July 1985, 29 June 1986, 29 July 1991, 25 August 2000 type storm for the south midlands last night.

    Looks like you`re in the wrong forum. This isn`t the weather forum.


  • #8144
    Cork Boy 53
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,829 ✭✭✭Cork Boy 53


    KrustyUCC wrote: »
    24 too many?

    It's a brilliant number in comparison to what we had.

    Really positive and hopefully it will keep decreasing

    For how much longer will the numbers keep decreasing or not start increasing again when pubs are allowed to open up and guidelines are flouted as many seem to be stating will happen? Same story with the muppets (I`m not referring to those with a genuine medical reason) who will refuse to wear masks on public transport even after they are made mandatory.


  • #8145
    normanoffside
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,275 ✭✭✭✭normanoffside


    Cork Boy 53 wrote: »
    For how much longer will the numbers keep decreasing or not start increasing again when pubs are allowed to open up and guidelines are flouted as many seem to be stating will happen? Same story with the muppets (I`m not referring to those with a genuine medical reason) who will refuse to wear masks on public transport even after they are made mandatory.

    I love reading your positive posts.


  • #8146
    Cork Boy 53
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,829 ✭✭✭Cork Boy 53


    normanoffside wrote: »
    I love reading your positive posts.

    Is that a fact? Well strangely enough not all of us have our heads in the sand and believe that the virus has been eradicated when it hasn`t.


  • #8147
    Plumbthedepths
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    drunkmonkey wrote: »
    Is it decreasing as the dead people are freeing up beds, we've had a few deaths nearly every day.

    In pre pandemic Ireland we had 90+ deaths a day.


  • #8148
    Juwwi
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,266 ✭✭✭Juwwi


    Cork Boy 53 wrote: »
    For how much longer will the numbers keep decreasing or not start increasing again when pubs are allowed to open up and guidelines are flouted as many seem to be stating will happen? Same story with the muppets (I`m not referring to those with a genuine medical reason) who will refuse to wear masks on public transport even after they are made mandatory.

    I'm surprised nobody has come out with " there is no law that say's l have to wash my hands " at this stage after reading some of the rubbish posted about masks and laws .


  • #8149
    drunkmonkey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,328 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    Cork Boy 53 wrote: »
    For how much longer will the numbers keep decreasing or not start increasing again when pubs are allowed to open up and guidelines are flouted as many seem to be stating will happen? Same story with the muppets (I`m not referring to those with a genuine medical reason) who will refuse to wear masks on public transport even after they are made mandatory.

    Look over at the who's travelling to Spain forum and you'll see who the real muppets are, it's not me and the boys going down for a pint in the beer garden.
    We're going back to lockdown, it's inevitable now and it'll be all a result of these gob****es flying all over Europe for summer holidays.


  • #8150
    Cork Boy 53
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,829 ✭✭✭Cork Boy 53


    Juwwi wrote: »
    I'm surprised nobody has come out with " there is no law that say's l have to wash my hands " at this stage after reading some of the rubbish posted about masks and laws .

    Probably won`t be much longer before some muppet does just that.


  • #8151
    Plumbthedepths
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    Cork Boy 53 wrote: »
    Is that a fact? Well strangely enough not all of us have our heads in the sand and believe that the virus has been eradicated when it hasn`t.

    I haven't encountered anyone that believes the virus has been eradicated, but people (well most) accept life has to continue . We are in a better position than we were in March and have more knowledge of what needs to be done. I don't accept the head in the sand analogy but the other extreme is not acceptable to me either. Constant fear is damaging but awareness is good.


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  • #8152
    podgeandrodge
    Site Banned Posts: 5,975 ✭✭✭podgeandrodge


    cnocbui wrote: »
    The US will be one of the first countries to achieve herd immunity. A family in Texas had a surprise birthday party and now 18 of them are infected. https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/health/health-problems/coronavirus-us-texan-familys-surprise-party-infects-18-guests/news-story/029726d1f8f5ab39810133d7d3dd5a84

    I'd say that was a surprise for everyone alright!


  • #8153
    polesheep
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,950 ✭✭✭polesheep


    Cork Boy 53 wrote: »
    For how much longer will the numbers keep decreasing or not start increasing again when pubs are allowed to open up and guidelines are flouted as many seem to be stating will happen? Same story with the muppets (I`m not referring to those with a genuine medical reason) who will refuse to wear masks on public transport even after they are made mandatory.

    Here's my reason for not wearing a mask: I don't want to wear one. For months now I have endured severe restrictions on my lifestyle for the sake of those who were considered vulnerable to the virus. I feel that I have done my bit and if people from the vulnerable cohort still feel at risk then they will have to cocoon. I am not prepared to live my life based on the level of risk to certain others indefinitely. And that includes wearing a mask. You can use any label you like to describe me, I can assure that I am indifferent to it.


  • #8154
    owlbethere
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,329 ✭✭✭owlbethere


    ixoy wrote: »
    Because they're solo activities and a lot of people would much prefer more social activities and wouldn't find those interesting. I enjoy solo hobbies but I recognise many do not.


    In theory yes, but in practice people are social creatures and I think a more viable option is people meeting in small groups who won't, realistically, be social distancing.
    The restaurants and pubs are a good example - do you honestly really think everyone at a table is really going to be from the same household? Of course they aren't, which is why right now we've got a limit on the table numbers which is a compromise.

    A walk in nature doesn't have to be a solo activity. If they are craving something social with a group of friends, they could meet up for a walk. It doesn't have to be boring. There's loads of nice places to walk. There's other activities like they could form a small band. They could get crafty together and do crafts together or play board games or a game of cards. There would be loads of activities to do in small groups if they wish to do them but drinking and dancing in the park is the only thing on their cards. There was no social distancing there in that video that was shared online.


  • #8155
    podgeandrodge
    Site Banned Posts: 5,975 ✭✭✭podgeandrodge


    Seven Septs wrote: »
    See that the UKMO hints of possible thunderstorms in the Midlands and North Midlands this afternoon.

    No July 1983, 25 July 1985, 29 June 1986, 29 July 1991, 25 August 2000 type storm for the south midlands last night.

    I'd agree with you Seven Septs. It's clear that the July/August thunderstorm scenario, coupled with the south midlands factor, will impact on the mutation of the virus, and we have to keep a close eye on it! :)


  • #8156
    polesheep
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,950 ✭✭✭polesheep


    owlbethere wrote: »
    A walk in nature doesn't have to be a solo activity. If they are craving something social with a group of friends, they could meet up for a walk. It doesn't have to be boring. There's loads of nice places to walk. There's other activities like they could form a small band. They could get crafty together and do crafts together or play board games or a game of cards. There would be loads of activities to do in small groups if they wish to do them but drinking and dancing in the park is the only thing on their cards. There was no social distancing there in that video that was shared online.

    You would like other people to do the things you like doing. Here's some news, they have ideas of their own.


  • #8157
    bodhrandude
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,095 ✭✭✭✭bodhrandude


    I hear lots of talk on RTE this morning about cases in meat plants, if its in the meat factories surely then some of it is in the meat too, how the hell is the situation getting out of hand in these places, same in Germany and the US.

    If you want to get into it, you got to get out of it. (Hawkwind 1982)



  • #8158
    schmoo2k
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,385 ✭✭✭schmoo2k


    polesheep wrote: »
    Here's my reason for not wearing a mask: I don't want to wear one. For months now I have endured severe restrictions on my lifestyle for the sake of those who were considered vulnerable to the virus. I feel that I have done my bit and if people from the vulnerable cohort still feel at risk then they will have to cocoon. I am not prepared to live my life based on the level of risk to certain others indefinitely. And that includes wearing a mask. You can use any label you like to describe me, I can assure that I am indifferent to it.

    Would you wear one if you were visiting folks in a Hospital / Nursing home or just vulnerable friends? (Its voluntary, but I know I would)

    Would you wear one if you were hopping onto a plane to London and getting the tube to the city during rush hour? (Yes - you have to by law)

    Would you wear one sitting on a beach? (I wouldn't)

    My point is, its not an all or nothing thing and like washing hands there are times you do it a lot and times you don't need to.


  • #8159
    Micky 32
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,645 ✭✭✭Micky 32


    Cork Boy 53 wrote: »
    Is that a fact? Well strangely enough not all of us have our heads in the sand and believe that the virus has been eradicated when it hasn`t.

    Have you cancelled xmas in your household yet? BTW yes the virus hasn’t been eradicated and probably never will be so here’s some advice for you. Learn to live with it or keep yourself locked up so you can keep moaning on here.


  • #8160
    stephenjmcd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,553 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    https://twitter.com/franmcnulty/status/1276462634137763840?s=19


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  • #8161
    Micky 32
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,645 ✭✭✭Micky 32


    Juwwi wrote: »
    I'm surprised nobody has come out with " there is no law that say's l have to wash my hands " at this stage after reading some of the rubbish posted about masks and laws .

    What a stupid post.


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