Covid19 Part XVIII-25,473 in ROI(1,736 deaths) 5,760 in NI (551 deaths)(30/06)Read OP

stephenjmcd · 25-06-2020 11:11PM

Goldengirl wrote: »

Yes 2 of us Killarney ( not the Park) 2 nights 500 eu , but it's a special occasion, so we're worth it!

Bit of a difference between a special occasion and a family trip away, would always spend that bit more for a special occasion.

Nonetheless hope you enjoy the break away for the occasion

cnocbui · 25-06-2020 11:13PM

fritzelly wrote: »

The only thing to take out of that report is "in a cell-culture system"

Ok.

Micky 32 · 25-06-2020 11:14PM

hmmm wrote: »

There have been several big contracts already signed for vaccines. Astra Zeneca alone is planning on 1.4 billion doses minimum, similarly Moderna/Lanza 1 billion (minimum), J&J probably another billion or two then you have Pfizer, Sanofi, Innovio etc. That's also not counting what the Chinese will do with their vaccines, I expect them to produce billions of doses also.

I'll be first in line for the vaccine when it's available to me, both for me personally and for my community. If other people don't want to get it, that moves me up the line - happy days. Will probably book a holiday abroad for the week after The Oxford/Astra Zeneca vaccine in particular is based on existing technology already used in vaccines provided by them, as are some of the others such as J&J, Sanofi etc.

I’ll be 2m behind you in the Queue for it!

Goldengirl · 25-06-2020 11:14PM

Eod100 wrote: »

I know it's a five star hotel for 7 nights for 2 adults and 2 children but it's hard not see that as price-gouging.

I get supply and demand but not sure that the demand from people already living here outmatches all the tourists that would usually come from UK, US, Germany, France etc. But guess they could still be booking assuming they can arrive by late July.

And I know cost of living generally more expensive here so set the prices accordingly but you'd wonder how much of it goes on staff wages and how much is profit.

Yes , it is mad money , and when they need people in Ireland to holiday here , to support the industry .
Not making it easy with the premium put on everything .

bb1234567 · 25-06-2020 11:21PM

There's a lot of talk about resurgence in the southern US but is it not just because of increased testing? Deaths in the US are still trending downard, albeit very slowly. But if the new cases we are seeing in Texas etc were truly growing at that rate and not just as a result of increased tests uncovering them wouldn't we be seeing very pronounced and proportionate increase in deaths in recent days. But there isn't , deaths are only slightly higher on average in Texas now than in weeks prior

Texas average deaths last 7 days, 27

Average daily deaths in late May 20

25-06-2020 11:21PM

Eod100 wrote: »

I know it's a five star hotel for 7 nights for 2 adults and 2 children but it's hard not see that as price-gouging.

I get supply and demand but not sure that the demand from people already living here outmatches all the tourists that would usually come from UK, US, Germany, France etc. But guess they could still be booking assuming they can arrive by late July.

And I know cost of living generally more expensive here so set the prices accordingly but you'd wonder how much of it goes on staff wages and how much is profit.

Hotels have always paid their staff very poorly, and not just in Ireland from my experience, so not down to staff costs.

speckle · 25-06-2020 11:25PM

Goldengirl wrote: »

Sorry what is a phylo tree?

Heard about one person in ICU in CUH , but Tomas Ryan was talking about another in the Bons in Cork in February as well on that podcast with Eamonn Dunphy , so that is the only link I have for it .

apologies delay in time it takes for posts to show up here. It is like a geanological family tree for the virus.
When they analyse the covid virus in a number of cases and look at the slight mutations they can trace back how it came to/ linked to a country.
eg some might be linked cork from hong kong from beijeng from wuhan etc
Then they can be put in a big graph

https://nextstrain.org/ncov

Has all of them and you can search for Ireland there.

ceadaoin. · 25-06-2020 11:42PM

bb1234567 wrote: »

There's a lot of talk about resurgence in the southern US but is it not just because of increased testing? Deaths in the US are still trending downard, albeit very slowly. But if the new cases we are seeing in Texas etc were truly growing at that rate and not just as a result of increased tests uncovering them wouldn't we be seeing very pronounced and proportionate increase in deaths in recent days. But there isn't , deaths are only slightly higher on average in Texas now than in weeks prior

Texas average deaths last 7 days, 27

Average daily deaths in late May 20

I think its a combination of increased testing and a moderate growth in spread because the positive test rate is also going up. But then I also read that not all negative tests are being reported in some states (Florida is one) so that accounts for that too. All we can do is wait and see what happens.

Even with regards texas and hospitals, doctors there today are saying they're actually OK so far and that the fear of being overwhelmed is "unwarranted" as of now. Not what some would have you believe but thats what they're saying. Also, as of a couple of days ago at least, coronavirus patients were a small percentage of the total beds in use, and not the majority.

https://www.click2houston.com/news/local/2020/06/25/houston-hospital-leaders-discuss-capacity-has-coronavirus-cases-rise/

What I've found is that for every scary headline you see, there is usually a less alarmist explanation for it if you look into it further.

Plumbthedepths · 25-06-2020 11:48PM

I holidayed here in Ireland years ago 1996 when my oldest was 6. Went to Kerry for a few days, I forgot the KY jelly. I have never holidayed in this country since. Ironically I have enjoyed holidays in Italy every year since 2004 and will be back there in August. I know I'm going to be ripped off here but it's nice to escape it for a couple of weeks.

nocoverart · 25-06-2020 11:49PM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

No wonder people want to go abroad for a week.

https://twitter.com/chaddfittness2/status/1276197558810017792?s=19

4500? that's not far off my life savings, fook that!

Arghus · 25-06-2020 11:51PM

bb1234567 wrote: »

There's a lot of talk about resurgence in the southern US but is it not just because of increased testing? Deaths in the US are still trending downard, albeit very slowly. But if the new cases we are seeing in Texas etc were truly growing at that rate and not just as a result of increased tests uncovering them wouldn't we be seeing very pronounced and proportionate increase in deaths in recent days. But there isn't , deaths are only slightly higher on average in Texas now than in weeks prior

Texas average deaths last 7 days, 27

Average daily deaths in late May 20

The percentage of postive tests over the last fortnight has doubled from 4.5% to 9% and hospitalisations are rising also.

So I think it's fair to say that it's growing and increased numbers aren't solely down to increased testing.

ACitizenErased · 26-06-2020 12:04AM

https://twitter.com/hivtox/status/1276148469720375298?s=21

Seems we are picking up the vast majority of possible spreaders before they even get a chance to move around.

Reminder we are one of a very very small number of countries who do Day 0 contact testing.

Away With The Fairies · 26-06-2020 12:16AM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

https://twitter.com/hivtox/status/1276148469720375298?s=21

Seems we are picking up the vast majority of possible spreaders before they even get a chance to move around.

Reminder we are one of a very very small number of countries who do Day 0 contact testing.

What is day 0 contact testing?

ACitizenErased · 26-06-2020 12:31AM

Away With The Fairies wrote: »

What is day 0 contact testing?

All close contacts get tested on day 0 (when they receive the contact tracing phone call) and day 7 in Ireland

Away With The Fairies · 26-06-2020 12:33AM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

All close contacts get tested on day 0 (when they receive the contact tracing phone call) and day 7 in Ireland

That's very good.

snotboogie · 26-06-2020 12:44AM

bb1234567 wrote: »

There's a lot of talk about resurgence in the southern US but is it not just because of increased testing? Deaths in the US are still trending downard, albeit very slowly. But if the new cases we are seeing in Texas etc were truly growing at that rate and not just as a result of increased tests uncovering them wouldn't we be seeing very pronounced and proportionate increase in deaths in recent days. But there isn't , deaths are only slightly higher on average in Texas now than in weeks prior

Texas average deaths last 7 days, 27

Average daily deaths in late May 20

Deaths lag weeks behind cases.

Goldengirl · 26-06-2020 01:28AM

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

I holidayed here in Ireland years ago 1996 when my oldest was 6. Went to Kerry for a few days, I forgot the KY jelly. I have never holidayed in this country since. Ironically I have enjoyed holidays in Italy every year since 2004 and will be back there in August. I know I'm going to be ripped off here but it's nice to escape it for a couple of weeks.

Haha, this made me laugh so much !

Spon Farmer · 26-06-2020 06:06AM

The Phase 3 announcement doesn't mention anything (that I see anyway) about travelling within Ireland.

Is the restriction lifted?

zinfandel · 26-06-2020 06:24AM

bb1234567 wrote: »

There's a lot of talk about resurgence in the southern US but is it not just because of increased testing? Deaths in the US are still trending downard, albeit very slowly. But if the new cases we are seeing in Texas etc were truly growing at that rate and not just as a result of increased tests uncovering them wouldn't we be seeing very pronounced and proportionate increase in deaths in recent days. But there isn't , deaths are only slightly higher on average in Texas now than in weeks prior

Texas average deaths last 7 days, 27

Average daily deaths in late May 20

Deaths will be weeks after cases, these huge rises are mainly in last 10 days , so may be yet to come. Alot more younger people contracting it so may end up as less deaths but at what cost to health down the road , nobody really knows. I would also hope that lessons have been learnt from the earlier states and nursing homes are being protected ( although i am sure we will see more incidences like New Jersey where they have unearthed another 1800 odd probable deaths )

Rob A. Bank · 26-06-2020 06:29AM

"They want to throw God's wonderful breathing system out the door"

Florida residents have their say on a proposition about wearing face masks ahead of a vote by the Palm Beach County commissioners in Florida.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DaFSH0K4BdQ

Florida has had 137,152 cases with 3,329 deaths, and the case numbers are rising at over 5,000 per day.

:rolleyes:

stephenjmcd · 26-06-2020 06:56AM

Spon Farmer wrote: »

The Phase 3 announcement doesn't mention anything (that I see anyway) about travelling within Ireland.

Is the restriction lifted?

Yeah thats lifted. You can travel anywhere from Monday

Onesea · 26-06-2020 07:08AM

Rob A. Bank wrote: »

"They want to throw God's wonderful breathing system out the door"

Florida residents have their say on a proposition about wearing face masks ahead of a vote by the Palm Beach County commissioners in Florida.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DaFSH0K4BdQ

Florida has had 137,152 cases with 3,329 deaths, and the case numbers are rising at over 5,000 per day.

:rolleyes:

5000 per day! Wow. So many must have it.

Onesea · 26-06-2020 07:09AM

July 15th Norway is open to schengen. All air traffic and cruise traffic to return.

podgeandrodge · 26-06-2020 08:05AM

Onesea wrote: »

July 15th Norway is open to schengen. All air traffic and cruise traffic to return.

What cruise traffic?

klub44 · 26-06-2020 08:06AM

Is there any checkpoint on M1 border? I have to collect few car parts this Sunday on the other side.

Renjit · 26-06-2020 08:11AM

Rob A. Bank wrote: »

"They want to throw God's wonderful breathing system out the door"

Florida residents have their say on a proposition about wearing face masks ahead of a vote by the Palm Beach County commissioners in Florida.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DaFSH0K4BdQ

Florida has had 137,152 cases with 3,329 deaths, and the case numbers are rising at over 5,000 per day.

:rolleyes:

Faith without any room for critical thinking.

is_that_so · 26-06-2020 08:21AM

ShineOn7 wrote: »

https://www.reddit.com/r/ireland/comments/hfrjwa/stephans_green_right_now/

The under 30s really couldn't give a fúck about this

(On the upside though, at least they didn't play Maniac 2000)

I'm sure the same was said about you when you were of that cohort, though maybe in less graphic terms! People need some release from this and it's better they are out in hot sunshine doing it.

is_that_so · 26-06-2020 08:22AM

klub44 wrote: »

Is there any checkpoint on M1 border? I have to collect few car parts this Sunday on the other side.

I think that they have all gone but that sounds like a reasonable excuse anyway!

Drumpot · 26-06-2020 08:28AM

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

I holidayed here in Ireland years ago 1996 when my oldest was 6. Went to Kerry for a few days, I forgot the KY jelly. I have never holidayed in this country since. Ironically I have enjoyed holidays in Italy every year since 2004 and will be back there in August. I know I'm going to be ripped off here but it's nice to escape it for a couple of weeks.

You can find good deals in Ireland if you look for them. I will be Staying in a beautiful massive house with my family for less then 130e a night In Wexford. There’s a lot available in different parts at reasonable prices. It’s no less expensive then the accommodation we were getting in France that wasn’t a house!

We usually go abroad for the weather, don’t believe it’s wise now with all the uncertainty going on. I’d rather be closer to home if something changes or one of my family gets a bad dose.

Rob A. Bank · 26-06-2020 08:46AM

An article about Professor Michael Baker an epidemiologist with the University of Otago and the author of New Zealand’s exemplary response to the Covid-19 pandemic.

In February 2020 he was advocating with colleagues at the University of Otago to 'stamp out' COVID-19 and keep it out, rather than trying to 'flatten the curve'. The Government eventually introduced a strict countrywide lockdown.

https://www.newscientist.com/article/2246858-why-new-zealand-decided-to-go-for-full-elimination-of-the-coronavirus/

Covid19 Part XVIII-25,473 in ROI(1,736 deaths) 5,760 in NI (551 deaths)(30/06)Read OP

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