Relaxation of Restrictions, Part IV - **Read OP for Mod Warnings**

Think a lot of the Irish people are struggling with the personal responsibility which will be the cornerstone from here on in.
For example here we have a local GAA player looking for issues- as someone rightly points out- don’t play if you feel uncomfortable or at risk -
https://twitter.com/conormcgraynor/status/1274988928429363200?s=21

I would say the same about flying, shopping, drinking, sports- none of these things are compulsory. If yuh feel at risk then don’t partake. The days of Simon Harris et al telling you what is safe or not are numbered

vid36 wrote: »

Portugal has reimposed some restrictions in the Lisbon region. Gatherings are being limited to 10 people, shops and cafes must close at 8pm.

https://medicalxpress.com/news/2020-06-portugal-pm-reimposes-virus-curbs.html

Specific targeted measures introduced to deal with local issues. Sounds very sensible to me

road_high wrote: »

Specific targeted measures introduced to deal with local issues. Sounds very sensible to me

Agree I think this is how its going to have to be tackled in Ireland too until a vaccine or something is found.

If there is a cluster lock down the town or area until contact tracing can be complete.

road_high wrote: »

Was talking to somebody at the weekend and were discussing how many people they knew “enjoy lockdown” for a whole host of reasons. It appears many did. They’re having problems now letting go so the default is to hit harder on the fear button. They’d have no issue with doing it again

I have been meeting with a lot of people in my area since the lockdown ended and I haven't one one yet who "enjoyed lockdown" everyone was delighted to see things getting back to near normal and if fear is such a big factor why isn't everyone wearing a mask. less than 6% are wearing masks in my survey of over 2000 people

Penfailed wrote: »

The GPs are following their duty of care by ensuring extreme social distancing so that already ill people don't also contract Covid.

But there was no one else in the surgery? Unless ghosts are being protected

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Give me an example and I stand to be corrected

Here you go. Play with the data until your heart’s content, though I’m not spoon feeding it to you.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/1104709/coronavirus-deaths-worldwide-per-million-inhabitants/

Some notable results however (deaths per million):

Yes Sweden are higher than us but not dramatically so whilst we’ve created an economic sh1tstorm that will kill more and ruin the lives of countless others. Sweden won’t be dealing with much of that, at least not to our extent. Brazil are lower than us. Characterised by the media as the poster boy for ignoring lockdown, our house arrest system still didn’t propel us higher than them. Try to find Belarus. They are so far down, you’ll have to search hard but they were famous for continuing their soccer season and having military celebration parades. But I guess as a former eastern bloc country, we are to be wary of their figures, no? Closer to home, the proof is in the pudding. These protests have resulted in no increase whatsoever. In fact they have coincided with a decrease in deaths. If I were to use the logic of the general masses, a simple correlation could be made suggesting mass street protests are an effective treatment for Covid 19. We all know that is blox but we readily accept the reverse with no evidence.

stephenjmcd wrote: »

There's a few people who won't like the sight of this, let's see what impact if any.

https://twitter.com/SkySports/status/1275021120329134083?s=19

MUSIC to my ears!!!! I’m moving to Serbia!!

plodder wrote: »

I take it you didn't work in IT back around that time, because there was an enormous investment going back several years leading up to 2000 to prevent all that from happening, and which was successful.

To be fair the point he was trying to make - and I'm staying impartial here myself - that, yes, certainly there was significant investment, but most of it was half-con and bullsh1t. I was in IT back then and I can confirm. It was a joke show. Certain environments needed investment but it was all 'oh my god' and people spent a lot of money who didnt really have to.

Again just saying he is speaking the truth in that department. Not saying I agree that CoVID is the same.

Penfailed wrote: »

The GPs are following their duty of care by ensuring extreme social distancing so that already ill people don't also contract Covid.

You really are alright with all of this like a good boy citizen aren’t you? It’s sickening.

[Deleted User] wrote: »

The protests were after restrictions had already worked.
Sweden are at a multiple of our current case load with no sign of reduction. They also don’t count those on the equivalent of the COVID payment as unemployed so the economic impact is large their too. And while the likes of the U A E will now let citizens travel to Ireland, Sweden is restricted. As for Belarus, well I don’t know enough about the country, but they did expel Russia journalists for reporting on what was going on in the country while had almost identical case numbers for weeks

How do you know they had worked? Seriously, give me the mechanism of how “restrictions worked” and prove it too. And did you not see the ‘per million’ stipulation. What the fck use is case load without knowing what proportion of the population it comprises of? By that metric we are a world leaders. Jesus Christ, I am in a health and safety nightmare where even the simplest factual figures play second fiddle to feelings and hunches.

pjohnson wrote: »

5 players have tested positive from Red Star Belgrade, Montenegro which was covid free now has new cases believed to be from attending football in Belgrade.

And also in the Balkans Djokovic's genius business as usual tennis tournament has resulted in two players catching covid and it being cancelled before its conclusion.



But I'm sure thats a roaring success for the only flu open up NOW crowd, same way Sweden is still such a success.

Oh Johnson, that sounds really awful. What’ll they ever do having to quarantine themselves for 2 weeks? Pray they pull through this difficult time.

pjohnson wrote: »

Hey dont let facts stop you. Hell facts have been irrelevant to the open up crowd since the start.

Well the facts are, “P”, that those affected may get some symptoms, some won’t. Each will disappear for two weeks and return good and well thereafter. Each Covid free while the world continues and the tumbleweed blows gently by their houses.

Deleted User wrote: »

Surely can’t be true. I read here every day that we are the only county in Europe with any restrictions?

We're the only country in the EU with a full BAN on a number of services - i.e. restaurants, bars, churches...

Most countries in the EU (possibly all countries apart from Sweden?) still have plenty of restrictions in place, such as limiting the number of people allowed indoors and the wearing of masks.
Restrictions are the new normal, and won't go away anytime soon.

Jayesdiem wrote: »

Well that’s true beauty of this Covid 19 you see! You infect your friends and then they isolate for two weeks, and then their friends and their friends and their friends’ friends. They all isolate for 2 weeks and then return to work/play just like that! See how that works?! Cool isn’t it!

Ah you've taken that weird substance again that you took this morning. Now your posts make sense! You're joking again.

Jayesdiem wrote: »

You actually think I believe that to be true. If you take things that literally, I worry for your future.

pjohnson wrote: »

Ah you've taken that weird substance again that you took this morning. Now your posts make sense!

Good thing that because yours most certainly don’t so I’d be quick to recommend whatever it is you think I took if it’ll get you thinking straight.