Covid19 Part XVIII-25,473 in ROI(1,736 deaths) 5,760 in NI (551 deaths)(30/06)Read OP

s1ippy wrote: »

We haven't eaten anything which hasn't been able to sit for three days or be cooked for min 20 mins before consumption. Bacon is tastier than ham anyway, just cook it up when it arrives and freeze the slices you're not going to eat that few days.

Away With The Fairies wrote: »

Why does it bother you what somebody else does?

Boggles wrote: »

His name is Alberto Zangrillo, he is Berlusconi's personal physician, the absolute definition of a celebrity doctor.

Now he could have came out and said we may evidence that the virus is losing potency. But no. He said.



Perfectly normal.



Really, Link?

The reality is, worldwide they are monitoring the virus and constantly analyzing the data. This sums up what is more than likely happening in Italy.



- Prof Martin Hibberd, Professor of Emerging Infectious Disease, London School of Hygiene & Tropical Medicine

ZX7R wrote: »

As I said in my previous post to you,he was not the first doctor in Italy to make the accusation.
Another doctor from a Lombardy hospital was the first.
Plenty of info from Italian media about it

Hector Savage wrote: »

Deleted User wrote: »

they sure are. It is showing up a side of people that I didn't really know existed. I know that people in general tend to have a negativity bias toward bad news, but people here seem to take it to another level, and take some kind of perverse pleasure in creating a narrative of ongoing misery.

Boggles wrote: »

Jaysus looks like someone had a good weekend, fair play to you.

Away With The Fairies wrote: »

It's not an irrational fear though. We were told it can live on packaging for 3 days.

Flickerfusion wrote: »

OK, so explain to me what has changed since March? Has the virus become non-infectious? Has the population somehow managed to gain mass resistance to it? If not, nothing has changed and we just have a much lower number of infections, much like we did at the start of the outbreak but the reproductive number may well kick back upwards if we drop all the social measures we have been using to reduce it, and with huge impact.

We put *HUGE* effort into a lock down and social distancing which was imposed by the government and the virus died back because it wasn't able to spread. Great, so we reset the clock to maybe February.

The use of masks has been rolled out across pretty much all of Northern Europe, in countries that have had more success than we have in controlling this. It's also been used in Asia with considerable success.

Also the things like hand washing and sanitising need to keep going.

If we don't do that, biology will just be biology and we are back to square one and facing into another lockdown.

It took it a few weeks to go from a few cases to very large numbers of cases and it is very definitely capable of just doing that again. Rinse and repeat.

I went shopping yesterday - SuperValu. Shop packed, everyone buzzing around. No social distancing, I'd say 2% mask use and I saw a load of people who walked right past the hand sanitisers and didn't even bother and one lady was coughing loudly (which I assume was hay fever) in the middle of the shop and straight into her hands.


The last thing I want is a second lockdown! It would be economically disastrous but if we stop taking this seriously before there's a vaccine or at least before there's medical treatments that actually work, that's precisely where we're heading and we could end up joining the anglophone sphere of conspiracy theory driven idiots on this one.

As for the 2022 it was a typo :rolleyes: - should have been 2021.

Also the virus has *NOT* been eradicated. It's merely been suppressed. There's an enormous difference between those two statements and particularly when you're talking about something that has the capability of multiplying exponentially.

The reality is we are still detecting new cases today and we will be seeing mass movement of people again to and from other parts of Europe and beyond in the weeks ahead. We cannot let our guard down on this or we will end up costing ourselves billions. We need to continue the small measures like hand sanitisers, masks and so on to maintain normality until we have vaccine or immunity or the virus becomes less of a threat due to either better drugs or it mutates to the point it's not very effective anymore (which some theorise is what happened to SARS). At the moment that is not the case and we still have more or less exactly the same problem we had in February.

I mean just look at Germany! They were doing very well on this and now they're back up at a very high viral reproductive rate again.

There's no point in declaring victory when the flight's not won and your opponent, which more like the T2000 of viruses, is just a bit dazed.

Polar101 wrote: »

1 million Australians in the state of Victoria advised to stay local after "2nd wave" hits, but lockdown isn't enforced. Some restrictions re-introduced and lifting of restrictions slowed down.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/jun/22/coronavirus-victoria-covid-19-melbourne-outbreak-hotspots

Family celebrations send parts of Australia back into coronavirus restrictions

Australia is battling a coronavirus outbreak in its second largest city – fuelled by family gatherings and birthday parties – that has resulted in large parts of Melbourne being shut down in an attempt to halt the spread of the virus just weeks after authorities lifted restrictions.