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Grizzly 45 · 18-06-2020 4:14pm

Belive it or not,you can still find towns and small cities in the USA that are still Norman Rockwell picture models.
But they dont take to strangers too easily,so you want to be able to fit in with the locals ways otherwise you will be ostracized pretty fast.
IOW opening you gay vegan resturant between JoAnnes diner and the Gutted hog bar &grill mightnt be a smart busisness move.
But thats how they keep their small town redneck charm.

yubabill · 18-06-2020 6:11pm

If you think that we should not pull down statues and let the past be water under the bridge, then maybe you will get a laugh about this; there's a petition on change.org with 17k signatures to have The Guardian newspaper shut down - it being at the forefront of Year Zero wiping of history AND having itself been founded on money made from slavery

https://www.change.org/p/independent-press-standards-organisation-shut-down-the-guardian-newspaper?recruiter=437051766

Just signed it myself, feeling a bit mischievous and needing a good laugh.

tudderone · 18-06-2020 10:24pm

The Labour party and Liberal party in Western Australia, banning guns based on their appearance :rolleyes:.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W7H80NpVPcA

tudderone · 18-06-2020 11:41pm

Can you believe this is America ? The dream has turned from a communist utopia into a police state.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=weJp7FgsL-o

yubabill · 21-06-2020 6:47am

OMG.

Been hearing about China's Confucius Institutes in Western Uni's for a few months. Just watched youtube (NTD China in Focus) about them in the US - they pay generously but institute must agree not to offend China and their Chinese staff must obey Chinese law, even though they are abroad plus the contracts apparently explicitly discriminate against certain religious groups (probably Falun gong, at the very least).

So I googled to see if we have any here......and I've found three in ROI - UCD, UCC and NUIG.

Confucius is in the last 10 mins or so https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d1lYypu090Q

https://www.ucdcii.ie

https://www.ucc.ie/en/asian/confucius/

https://www.nuigalway.ie/about-us/news-and-events/news-archive/2019/march/confucius-institute-of-chinese-and-regenerative-medicine-to-be-established-at-nui-galway.html

Mellor · 22-06-2020 1:54am

https://twitter.com/PodSaveAmerica/status/1274501000615739392

Dear god. What an idiotic statement from Trump. How did he think this was a good thing to say publicly. How was this allowed to stay in his speech. I know he gets a lot of harsh criticism, but this an approach a child might think of.

tudderone · 22-06-2020 2:22am

yubabill wrote: »

OMG.

Been hearing about China's Confucius Institutes in Western Uni's for a few months. Just watched youtube (NTD China in Focus) about them in the US - they pay generously but institute must agree not to offend China and their Chinese staff must obey Chinese law, even though they are abroad plus the contracts apparently explicitly discriminate against certain religious groups (probably Falun gong, at the very least).

So I googled to see if we have any here......and I've found three in ROI - UCD, UCC and NUIG.

Confucius is in the last 10 mins or so https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d1lYypu090Q

https://www.ucdcii.ie

https://www.ucc.ie/en/asian/confucius/

https://www.nuigalway.ie/about-us/news-and-events/news-archive/2019/march/confucius-institute-of-chinese-and-regenerative-medicine-to-be-established-at-nui-galway.html

Its amazing how our lot quickly forget human rights, morals and ethics when a few bob is waved under their snouts, or the snouts of the tax exiles they truly represent.

They were up in arms over Israel, a liberal democracy, perhaps rightly, but can turn a blind eye to an increasingly aggressive communist dictatorship that is china, that locks people up without charge or reason, force people they do not like into disappearing or suicide, forcibly harvest human organs and sell them, their brutal treatment of their citizens and animals - wet markets etc. Their buying up of international orgs such as the UN and WHO.

But hey investment and cheap manufacturing, export your jobs to a communist distopia and put those pesky working class people on the dole.

Mellor · 22-06-2020 2:36am

tudderone wrote: »

Its amazing how our lot quickly forget human rights, morals and ethics when a few bob is waved under their snouts, or the snouts of the tax exiles they truly represent.

Ultimately, the decision to take the "donation" or not lies with one person. And single people can make some pretty shitty decisions when it comes to private agreements.
Its only when its a big public decision like a referendum that people think about morals.

But hey investment and cheap manufacturing, export your jobs to a communist distopia and put those pesky working class people on the dole.

Similar thing. People will happily buy cheap goods in the shop, or demand rock bottom prices from Pennys, or on electronics. But they will complain when the quality is ****. Collectively people need to be willing to pay a bit more, for better quality goods.

tudderone · 22-06-2020 12:13pm

Mellor wrote: »

Ultimately, the decision to take the "donation" or not lies with one person. And single people can make some pretty shitty decisions when it comes to private agreements.
Its only when its a big public decision like a referendum that people think about morals.

Similar thing. People will happily buy cheap goods in the shop, or demand rock bottom prices from Pennys, or on electronics. But they will complain when the quality is ****. Collectively people need to be willing to pay a bit more, for better quality goods.

Well i did not mean donations, i meant the Chinese want to open a company here or buy up a housing development or blocks of apartments etc.

I refuse to knowingly buy Chinese products after this virus pandemic. If i pick up an article and see "Made in China" on it, i put it back on the shelf. The Dunnes stores workers back in the 80's refused to work with fruit and veg from apartheid south Africa.

But no one lifts a finger against the Chinese who are every bit as bad, or worse. Their recent behaviour, with their president making himself president for life, The suppression of freedoms in Hong Kong, and the trouble with them and the Indians, but no carry on as usual.

BattleCorp · 22-06-2020 12:39pm

tudderone wrote: »

Well i did not mean donations, i meant the Chinese want to open a company here or buy up a housing development or blocks of apartments etc.

I refuse to knowingly buy Chinese products after this virus pandemic. If i pick up an article and see "Made in China" on it, i put it back on the shelf. The Dunnes stores workers back in the 80's refused to work with fruit and veg from apartheid south Africa.

But no one lifts a finger against the Chinese who are every bit as bad, or worse. Their recent behaviour, with their president making himself president for life, The suppression of freedoms in Hong Kong, and the trouble with them and the Indians, but no carry on as usual.

It's a lot easier to choose to not eat bananas from South Africa than it is to not use something that is made in China.

Uinseann_16 · 22-06-2020 2:01pm

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-53135599

Seems everyone's a target:(

BattleCorp · 22-06-2020 2:04pm

Uinseann_16 wrote: »

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-53135599

Seems everyone's a target:(

If something is offensive, tear it down. Who else carried on like that fairly recently? Oh yeah, the Taliban.

tudderone · 22-06-2020 5:30pm

Look at who is funding BLM and Antifa, a certain Hungarian chappy who likes money, lots of money. If you want to see what BLM are about, watch this video, absolutely batpoo crazy, and straight from the horses mouth.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2UoA2RHLlww

tudderone · 22-06-2020 5:36pm

BattleCorp wrote: »

It's a lot easier to choose to not eat bananas from South Africa than it is to not use something that is made in China.

Yes, thats true, but most of what China produces is low quality and disposable. I was buying pliers recently, i had the choice of a pair made in Germany for 30 euro, or a pair made in China for less than half that. I bought the German ones, as i know they will last and that i will take care of them.

I know people who live and work in Germany, i don't know anyone in China, if we continue to export our jobs, sooner or later it will arrive at your own door.

riffmongous · 22-06-2020 6:02pm

tudderone wrote: »

Well i did not mean donations, i meant the Chinese want to open a company here or buy up a housing development or blocks of apartments etc.

I refuse to knowingly buy Chinese products after this virus pandemic. If i pick up an article and see "Made in China" on it, i put it back on the shelf. The Dunnes stores workers back in the 80's refused to work with fruit and veg from apartheid south Africa.

But no one lifts a finger against the Chinese who are every bit as bad, or worse. Their recent behaviour, with their president making himself president for life, The suppression of freedoms in Hong Kong, and the trouble with them and the Indians, but no carry on as usual.

Even today Trump came out and said that he held off on sanctioning Chinese officials over their ethnic cleansing of the Uighurs as they were in the middle of getting a trade deal.. not having a specific go at him here cause most politicians would have sold out as well, but the problem is that we are always going to be in the middle of a trade deal with China when they control so much of the manufacturing, so when exactly are they going to be sanctioned and stood up to? If it doesn't happen now after what we saw during the PPE shortages in the pandemic then it'll probably never happen

tudderone · 22-06-2020 7:31pm

riffmongous wrote: »

Even today Trump came out and said that he held off on sanctioning Chinese officials over their ethnic cleansing of the Uighurs as they were in the middle of getting a trade deal.. not having a specific go at him here cause most politicians would have sold out as well, but the problem is that we are always going to be in the middle of a trade deal with China when they control so much of the manufacturing, so when exactly are they going to be sanctioned and stood up to? If it doesn't happen now after what we saw during the PPE shortages in the pandemic then it'll probably never happen

Thats because America exported much of their manufacturing to China, if a trade war breaks out, the American companies don't get their parts or completed products, and go bankrupt. Its like having your nuts in an enemies hand and expecting them not to give them a good squeeze.

Grizzly 45 · 23-06-2020 12:36pm

Well,maybe we in the West might learn that certain critical industries in defence,technology and medical,cannot be outsourced to "Frenemies" in the future?
As for how much does it affect us here.Was talking to a friends wife last week who works in a solicitors here in Limerick in the probate section.Virtually 1/2of the property deals she has handled pre Covid were with some Chinese connection.All Chans,Hongs, Lius or other Chinese surnames or some Chinese named company.
If thats Limerick...What do they own in our other cities and towns?:eek:

Grizzly 45 · 23-06-2020 12:43pm

Uinseann_16 wrote: »

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-53135599

Seems everyone's a target:(

Dont try this sht in Texas!Esp with The Alamo!Y'all likely to git your ass shot!

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/dont-mess-with-the-alamo-george-p-bush-issues-warning-to-protesters/ar-BB15wSG5

tudderone · 23-06-2020 1:57pm

Grizzly 45 wrote: »

Dont try this sht in Texas!Esp with The Alamo!Y'all likely to git your ass shot!

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/dont-mess-with-the-alamo-george-p-bush-issues-warning-to-protesters/ar-BB15wSG5

The police are resigning enmasse in America, and i don't blame them. The money is dire, and you get all the trouble you want at the best of times, now its just not worth the hassle.

I was looking at the coppers in Stuttgart the other night, being kicked around the place, yet if you kick back you are a facist or waysist or something else, get a job in Aldi and let someone else worry about it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-YKKJGZPmnE

tudderone · 23-06-2020 2:00pm

Grizzly 45 wrote: »

Well,maybe we in the West might learn that certain critical industries in defence,technology and medical,cannot be outsourced to "Frenemies" in the future?
As for how much does it affect us here.Was talking to a friends wife last week who works in a solicitors here in Limerick in the probate section.Virtually 1/2of the property deals she has handled pre Covid were with some Chinese connection.All Chans,Hongs, Lius or other Chinese surnames or some Chinese named company.
If thats Limerick...What do they own in our other cities and towns?:eek:

There were two lovely houses on their own land down the road from me which were knocked down and a load of shoddily built apartments put up. I believe they are owned by a Canadian teachers union.

Irish water, was being set up, not to improve water supplies, but to be fattened up and sold off, it appears the whole country is for sale.

yubabill · 23-06-2020 2:18pm

Interesting look into FB content moderation in a US office from Project Veritas; "facebook content moderator: if someone's wearing MAGA hat, I'm going to delete them for terrorism"

https://twitter.com/JamesOKeefeIII/status/1275398209762988033

https://www.youtube.com/embed/l7o4A16QCxE?feature=oembed

Get the popcorn.....

Grizzly 45 · 27-06-2020 12:32pm

In German,but you'll get the jist of it pretty quick.Using hazel rods about thumb thick and as straight as possible,some extra thick elastic bands or some old bike inner tube,as I doubt we have easily obtainable DIY canning seals here,and a bit of string to adjust the position of the rifle in the cradle.

This thing is so cheaply and easily made you could build a few and stash them at good stands,or just abandon them around your let to save you carrying them all the time to and from home.

https://www.jagderleben.de/anleitungen/anleitung-zielstock-selber-bauen-710765

tudderone · 27-06-2020 1:17pm

I see we now have the pox doctors clerk as Taoiseach, from a party that would burn down the dail for the insurance money if they thought they'd get away with it. God help us, but a country has never been so ill served by the rubbish that governs them.

Grizzly 45 · 27-06-2020 2:00pm

Well the Watermelons have gone and eaten their shotgun on this .They signed up for more of same with a bunch of old nasty crooks to get their nonsense across the line.The leftie sites are going spastic about this move,and they will be consigned to the dustbin of failed Irish parties like Labour in the next election which I predict within 12 months.
Curley,Larry and Moe might be pretending that they have a one big happy family,but their parties hate each other and everyone else with a passion.So how long that will hold to gether is anyones guess.

tudderone · 27-06-2020 2:28pm

Grizzly 45 wrote: »

Well the Watermelons have gone and eaten their shotgun on this .They signed up for more of same with a bunch of old nasty crooks to get their nonsense across the line.The leftie sites are going spastic about this move,and they will be consigned to the dustbin of failed Irish parties like Labour in the next election which I predict within 12 months.
Curley,Larry and Moe might be pretending that they have a one big happy family,but their parties hate each other and everyone else with a passion.So how long that will hold to gether is anyones guess.

A big bump in the road later this year with Brexit, its going to hit us like a Flak 88, and i don't see the eu bailing us out again. Yup, thats when the plop will hit the fan.

The Greens will also be used by FF, as an excuse to hike taxes, especially on fuel and leccy.

P.S P.S, I see the premiership will rotate back to the other tulip - verruca after 2 years. No mandate for that, he barely scraped back in on the fifth recount at the election.

tudderone · 28-06-2020 2:49pm

Looks like John Wayne airport in california is getting the blm/antifa treatment.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8467221/John-Wayne-Airport-targeted-change-racist-homophobic-comments.html

Feisar · 28-06-2020 10:32pm

tudderone wrote: »

I see we now have the pox doctors clerk as Taoiseach, from a party that would burn down the dail for the insurance money if they thought they'd get away with it. God help us, but a country has never been so ill served by the rubbish that governs them.

To be fair that remains to be seen. However I don't hold much hope! Politicians, are they a cross section of society or does the job draw a narcissistic type? Most people wouldn't go into a job that required them to win a popularity contest (election) every couple of years. The tenets of democracy are up against it's own method of selection.

tudderone · 29-06-2020 11:22am

Feisar wrote: »

To be fair that remains to be seen. However I don't hold much hope! Politicians, are they a cross section of society or does the job draw a narcissistic type? Most people wouldn't go into a job that required them to win a popularity contest (election) every couple of years. The tenets of democracy are up against it's own method of selection.

Wanna take a bet on it

Feisar · 29-06-2020 4:06pm

tudderone wrote: »

Wanna take a bet on it

Ah, yer grand!

Grizzly 45 · 29-06-2020 9:02pm

Feisar wrote: »

To be fair that remains to be seen. However I don't hold much hope! Politicians, are they a cross section of society or does the job draw a narcissistic type? Most people wouldn't go into a job that required them to win a popularity contest (election) every couple of years. The tenets of democracy are up against it's own method of selection.

If you want to have case studies of Sociopaths and Psychopaths for a masters or a degree in psychology.Politicans are a very rich field to study for those two traits.There is an incrediblely large amount of those kind of people in politics globally.And going by some top head shrinkers we have a grand crop of them in Irish politics.

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