Championship and Covid

ReginaldSmythV wrote: »

There’s been a calendar laid out so even if they finish the club they shouldn’t be allowed any inter county until a set date. And out of the championship if it’s broken.

I'd agree but lets face it the rules the GAA makes are rarely respected with regards to county team training and if they are punished its appealed to the end and is almost also overturned. Plus imagine the uproar if the GAA tried to ban a county from the championship.

Can't understand the clamour for championship games. The spectacle and event is greatly diminished anyway due to the number of spectators allowed.
Can we not for once do something right by prioritising the clubs and finishing the league so promotion and demotion can be resolved. There is no knock on effect to not having a championship this year. There is huge implications if the two competitions mentioned above are sacrificed.

mountgomery burns wrote: »

Don't think anyone is talking about sacrificing club championships least I hope not.

Implications of not playing IC championship

-First time not finished in 130 years, no all Ireland champions
-The current pool of players get one less year in their prime to test whether they are the best...the reason they make the sacrifices they do
-No more inter County hurling games for Tipp, Dublin, Laois, Cork, Offaly etc for 2020
-There will definitely be a financial impact to it
-The fans (and this is bottom of the pile by the way) not getting to witness a championship this year. Theres still a possibility we could see large crowds in October, nobody knows.


Now tell me what are the huge implications of not playing the league are? 6 times it has not been played since it's inception, 30 after the championship which has only not been finished once. Fine its been started, if the O'Byrne Cup had been started first would we be saying delay the championship we have to finish that?

I'd say Allianz have a lot to do with this push for a conclusion of the league

The re-introduction of the B All Ireland (Tailteann Cup,) would be one of the prime reasons why HQ are keen for years league to reach its conclusion.

mountgomery burns wrote: »

Don't think anyone is talking about sacrificing club championships least I hope not.

Implications of not playing IC championship

-First time not finished in 130 years, no all Ireland champions
-The current pool of players get one less year in their prime to test whether they are the best...the reason they make the sacrifices they do
-No more inter County hurling games for Tipp, Dublin, Laois, Cork, Offaly etc for 2020
-There will definitely be a financial impact to it
-The fans (and this is bottom of the pile by the way) not getting to witness a championship this year. Theres still a possibility we could see large crowds in October, nobody knows.


Now tell me what are the huge implications of not playing the league are? 6 times it has not been played since it's inception, 30 after the championship which has only not been finished once. Fine its been started, if the O'Byrne Cup had been started first would we be saying delay the championship we have to finish that?

I'd say Allianz have a lot to do with this push for a conclusion of the league

That would be my biggest argument in favour of having a championship. It is particularly hard on older players who might have decided to give it one more year in 2020. To counter the argument, I am not convinced you will see the best of the players with such little lead-in time to prepare for a championship. But how do you give them more time? It brings us back to the club v county debate. Already, we are hearing about issues in numerous counties where they are trying to condense the club c'ship to facilitate the inter county team. And if one county are doing it, then their rival will feel they have to do it etc.

My argument for the league is that it can be done in 2 / 3 rounds. Most counties will be meeting in November for 2021 anyway and arranging challenges. I am sure league matches would be better than challenges for their 2021 preparation. If crowds are allowed at that stage, have a Christmas league final. If not, place teams according to group positions. Then we start new in 2021

It just feels right to give the clubs the space to complete their competitions. I am not sure counties playing their club c'ship over a couple of weeks to facilitate the county team is beneficial in the long run. Also, if county X does that, County Y will feel they should do it.

The Lost Sheep wrote: »

what exactly would make these postponed league games better than friendlies in november/December time. As that stage if no games had been played players would simply treat these deferred league games just like any friendlies at that time and they'd just be prep for 2021s competitions.
The very obvious solution is to stop counties holding up all main club competitions because the inter county team is still playing. Put in a proper season structure but that will never happen

No, because they have something to play for. e.g. Mayo are battling for relegation in D1.


The proper structure would make sense. But like you, I have no faith in that happening.

ReginaldSmythV wrote: »

Any further news on the mess in Wexford?

Nothing in the public sphere anyway. I assume because its the weekend. The local paper will be out on Tuesday, and I can hazard a guess that the letter will be transcribed word for word and the issue will be debated, especially from a fella who has a weekly column that quite often criticises the county board. What will happen then is the chairman will release a statement that will condemn the criticism, but won't address the issue at hand. Because he hates bad publicity.

Klonker wrote: »

I'm delighted that club matches are starting back at the end of July as I play a little (low level)myself but I'm a bit confused by it all. Professional soccer in England is starting back this week and there will be no fans, no celebrations (I think) and lots of testing. A mini Irish soccer league is starting in July under same conditions. Amateur club GAA is starting just a few weeks later and I haven't heard anything on any crowd restrictions, any testing, anything about distancing. Now I'm not against it, at the moment it seems we have next to zero of the virus transferring in the community, but I just don't think everyone adds up from going to one extreme to the other in just a couple of weeks.

Sorry if I missed any of this already discussed but I had a read through and didn't see any details on how this is planned to be done

The GAA have issued their own guidelines for a return to training and games.

These include groups of 10 training together at social distance from June 29th to July 23rd.
After July 23rd normal training can resume.
All equipment has to be washed and sanitized before and after training.
All temperatures have to be taken at entry to training and anyone with over 37.5 has to be turned away.
All players must arrive individually, no car pooling.
I'm not sure of the social distancing regulations for onlookers during games when they start but I'm sure they are extensive.

I'm involved with the underage setup in my club and it's going to be a big job implementing the above but we will do it.

One cannot expect club GAA to do extensive testing like professional soccer.

km79 wrote: »

Mayo GAA sent out guidelines to clubs (and on twitter ) advising that temp check would be the responsibility of the individual themselves (and for children it will be up to their parents ) . So clubs will not have to take care of this aspect .
Takes a lot of pressure off the clubs
But could lead to problems ........

Huge problems, If a player is running a fever the morning of a big championship match will they rule themselves out of the game or turn a blind eye to it. Leaving it up to the players is madness in my opinion.

almostover wrote: »

Huge problems, If a player is running a fever the morning of a big championship match will they rule themselves out of the game or turn a blind eye to it. Leaving it up to the players is madness in my opinion.

While it makes perfect sense to enforce the rules externally instead of leaving it up to the player, and I agree with you both mathematically and psychologically (it's not fair on the players to get them to make the call), but:

Fr Tod Umptious wrote: »

One cannot expect club GAA to do extensive testing like professional soccer.

Kinda off-topic - But generally season-on-season, is there an Intermediate Intercounty Championship every year for Football?

Can't find anything on it anywhere - Same with province championships at that level

They are rowing back on requiring temperature checks because ther are too many variables.
An adult could have taken Paracetamol for example (like what was happening in the meat plants) or a parent could give a child Calpol or similar. That renders temp checks useless.

So when can counties can start club championships?