Relaxation of Restrictions, Part IV - Read OP for Mod Warnings

16-06-2020 02:47PM

MickeyLeari wrote: »

It’s off the wall stuff. You could have half capacity in Lansdowne road or Croke Park with minimal risk. Yet blabbering on about numbers ....

Anyway 75% of people polled think him and Harris are doing a great job...

The big risk in Lansdowne or Croker is exiting and to a lesser extent entering. The flow of people out of the ground will have to managed, and will likely take 2 to 3 times longer to empty the ground even at 50% capacity

amlinopta · 16-06-2020 02:50PM

Ginger n Lemon wrote: »

Jesus such dishonest reporting by RTE its disgusting. From the article:

"The number of confirmed coronavirus cases worldwide has now risen to over 8 million, including more than 436,000 deaths since the pandemic first emerged in China late last year.

The number of confirmed cases has doubled since 10 May and another one million new cases have been detected in the last eight days.

Europe has 2,417,902 cases with 188,085 deaths, while the US has 2,110,182 cases and 116,081 deaths."

Not a single word about 55% of recovered cases of the 8 million.

:rolleyes: absolute garbage

On RTE and scaremongering, heard this from Paul O'Flynn on the six o'clock news on Sunday: "But if China is anything to go by, it may not be long before parts of Europe return to lockdown once more as fears mount of a second wave of the virus spreading"

setanta1984 · 16-06-2020 02:51PM

Ginger n Lemon wrote: »

Maybe Leo will get some courage to open up cinemas now before August? August is just mere 1.5 months away, the classic 5 month shutdowns for cinemas in Ireland only.

Whats this rubbish about August for cinemas?!

Cinemas were specifically in Phase 5 (August 10), which now no longer exists and was rolled into Phase 4 so at the absolute latest they are 20th July right??

Bewildering.

facehugger99 · 16-06-2020 02:52PM

MickeyLeari wrote: »

It’s off the wall stuff. You could have half capacity in Lansdowne road or Croke Park with minimal risk. Yet blabbering on about numbers ....

Anyway 75% of people polled think him and Harris are doing a great job...

RTE pumping out project fear 24/7 and the Govt borrowing billions to pay people to sit on their arses, it's no wonder there's a load of clappy seals thinking we're doing great.

It'll be some fun when the bill for all this madness is presented to the Irish people to pony up and pay.

Spanish Eyes · 16-06-2020 02:52PM

Who goes to the cinema in the middle of the Summer anyway.

Ginger n Lemon · 16-06-2020 02:53PM

amlinopta wrote: »

On RTE and scaremongering, heard this from Paul O'Flynn on the six o'clock news on Sunday: "But if China is anything to go by, it may not be long before parts of Europe return to lockdown once more as fears mount of a second wave of the virus spreading"

:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

Ginger n Lemon · 16-06-2020 02:54PM

setanta1984 wrote: »

Whats this rubbish about August for cinemas?!

Cinemas were specifically in Phase 5 (August 10), which now no longer exists and was rolled into Phase 4 so at the absolute latest they are 20th July right??

Bewildering.

To be honest you could say that first sentence about pretty much any business that still isnt opened.

Bewildering - for the cinemas or our lockdown plan in general? Things are bad when I have to ask this :pac:

is_that_so · 16-06-2020 02:56PM

facehugger99 wrote: »

RTE pumping out project fear 24/7 and the Govt borrowing billions to pay people to sit on their arses, it's no wonder there's a load of clappy seals thinking we're doing great.

It'll be some fun when the bill for all this madness is presented to the Irish people to pony up and pay.

RTE just do news, the "fear" comes from people following every bulletin and giving journalistic lines a life they just don't deserve.

16-06-2020 03:02PM

Ginger n Lemon wrote: »

Can you provide any links?

Also - were there any scientific studies done afterwards to back up what they did was correct or appropriate? If yes maybe just 1 link for this plz?

Just because some idiots closed off villages in US decades or centuries ago doesnt mean - we are in the clear with our 3 - 5 months lockdown

But you have stated many times on here that we are in the clear and it's time to open up everything.

I just replied to growleaves that a lockdown to prevent deaths from a disease where there is no known treatment or vaccine isn't something borrowed from communists.

Plenty of links online, you can find them easily, from the yellow fever outbreak in Philadelphia to the Gunnison lockdown which resulted in no idiots as you call them dying from the 1918 influenza outbreak.

Ginger n Lemon · 16-06-2020 03:04PM

DubInMeath wrote: »

But you have stated many times on here that we are in the clear and it's time to open up everything.

I just replied to growleaves that a lockdown to prevent deaths from a disease where there is no known treatment or vaccine isn't something borrowed from communists.

Plenty of links online, you can find them easily, from the yellow fever outbreak in Philadelphia to the Gunnison lockdown which resulted in no idiots as you call them dying from the 1918 influenza outbreak.

In the clear = good decision.

We are in the clear to re open country since 1st week of May, dont get confused about this part.

1918? Spanish flu?

oh boy here we go again :rolleyes:

growleaves · 16-06-2020 03:11PM

When you consider that Gunnison was a town of 1,300, and Wuhan has 11 million people, I think the sheer scale makes a difference.

Very limited and targeted lockdowns for very deadly diseases have been part of history yes.

The total shutdown of a fifth of the world combined with social distancing has been very extreme. Italy took their policy from the CCP. If they had followed historical examples that could have cherry-picked disease hotspots around Lombardy for closure, would have been much less controversial.

is_that_so · 16-06-2020 03:14PM

growleaves wrote: »

When you consider that Gunnison was a town of 1,300, and Wuhan has 11 million people, I think the sheer scale makes a difference.

Very limited and targeted lockdowns for very deadly diseases have been part of history yes.

The total shutdown of a fifth of the world combined with social distancing has been very extreme. Italy took their policy from the CCP. If they had followed historical examples that could have cherry-picked diseases hotspots around Lombardy for closure, would have been much less controversial.

Indeed Professor Giovanni Hindsight knows all about that. Have you forgotten the mass exodus from Lombardy the day they shut it down?

skelly22 · 16-06-2020 03:23PM

is_that_so wrote: »

RTE just do news, the "fear" comes from people following every bulletin and giving journalistic lines a life they just don't deserve.

You're being over-generous calling it "News".
Typical bulletin last week:
Item 1: Covid 19 Scare-Mongering
Item 2: Live to our US correspondent from the White House for Trump's latest ramblings.
Item 3: Madeleine McCann update.
Item 4: George Lee takes a trip down the west coast in a camper van visiting tourist spots to confirm that......yes, you've guessed it - there are no tourists.

Unemployment running at 28%? Not a mention. News my arse.

16-06-2020 03:25PM

growleaves wrote: »

When you consider that Gunnison was a town of 1,300, and Wuhan has 11 million people, I think the sheer scale makes a difference.

Very limited and targeted lockdowns for very deadly diseases have been part of history yes.

The total shutdown of a fifth of the world combined with social distancing has been very extreme. Italy took their policy from the CCP. If they had followed historical examples that could have cherry-picked disease hotspots around Lombardy for closure, would have been much less controversial.

That's what they did initially - worked very well didn't it

Ginger n Lemon · 16-06-2020 03:30PM

skelly22 wrote: »

You're being over-generous calling it "News".
Typical bulletin last week:
Item 1: Covid 19 Scare-Mongering
Item 2: Live to our US correspondent from the White House for Trump's latest ramblings.
Item 3: Madeleine McCann update.
Item 4: George Lee takes a trip down the west coast in a camper van visiting tourist spots to confirm that......yes, you've guessed it - there are no tourists.

Unemployment running at 28%? Not a mention. News my arse.

Damn, what. a. post.

You forgot Brazil mass graves of "covid and non covid deaths". The RTE classic, every 2nd day you ll see plenty of coffins on RTE, the "news". :rolleyes:

is_that_so · 16-06-2020 03:32PM

skelly22 wrote: »

You're being over-generous calling it "News".
Typical bulletin last week:
Item 1: Covid 19 Scare-Mongering
Item 2: Live to our US correspondent from the White House for Trump's latest ramblings.
Item 3: Madeleine McCann update.
Item 4: George Lee takes a trip down the west coast in a camper van visiting tourist spots to confirm that......yes, you've guessed it - there are no tourists.

Unemployment running at 28%? Not a mention. News my arse.

It goes with what's current and we only get unemployment numbers once a month. If you want in-depth stuff go to Prime Time, papers and other media.
What would your bulletin look like?

what the hell! · 16-06-2020 03:33PM

amlinopta wrote: »

On RTE and scaremongering, heard this from Paul O'Flynn on the six o'clock news on Sunday: "But if China is anything to go by, it may not be long before parts of Europe return to lockdown once more as fears mount of a second wave of the virus spreading"

Yep I remember hearing that! He mentioned a second wave twice. And by the way he was talking he was pretty much confirming it was going to happen.

skelly22 · 16-06-2020 03:36PM

Ginger n Lemon wrote: »

Damn, what. a. post.

You forgot Brazil mass graves of "covid and non covid deaths". The RTE classic, every 2nd day you ll see plenty of coffins on RTE, the "news". :rolleyes:

We'll have to put that under the umbrella of Item 1 I think. Sure you couldn't be taking them seriously.

skelly22 · 16-06-2020 03:37PM

is_that_so wrote: »

It goes with what's current and we only get unemployment numbers once a month. If you want in-depth stuff go to Prime Time, papers and other media.
What would your bulletin look like?

Jeez you couldn't make it up. Don't watch the news for your news!

Penfailed · 16-06-2020 03:47PM

Ginger n Lemon wrote: »

And now below reports coming out
Covid-19: Economy could take 3½ years to return to pre-crisis levels
Acting Irish Fiscal Advisory Council chair says ‘sizeable stimulus’ needed to help recovery

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/politics/covid-19-economy-could-take-3-years-to-return-to-pre-crisis-levels-1.4280476?mode=sample&auth-failed=1&pw-origin=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.irishtimes.com%2Fnews%2Fpolitics%2Fcovid-19-economy-could-take-3-years-to-return-to-pre-crisis-levels-1.4280476

Is this scare mongering about economy? Penfailed I need your help

I've emboldened the pertinent word in that passage ^^^

You did similar to another post recently and berated the OP. 'Could', 'possibly', 'maybe', 'if'...nothing is certain. Economic forecasts are just that - forecasts. Someone is having an educated guess.

facehugger99 · 16-06-2020 03:50PM

Spanish Eyes wrote: »

Who goes to the cinema in the middle of the Summer anyway.

Nobody.

It's amazing the studios haven't figured this out and keep releasing all those blockbusters during the summer for decades now.

is_that_so · 16-06-2020 03:53PM

skelly22 wrote: »

Jeez you couldn't make it up. Don't watch the news for your news!

So all you've got is RTE is crap but I've got nothing on how to make it any better. Jeez you couldn't make it up! It's just one source for me and always without the impotent outrage.

facehugger99 · 16-06-2020 03:55PM

https://www.rte.ie/news/health/2020/0616/1147735-bowel-screening/

It's great all the lives the lock-down merchants are saving.

khalessi · 16-06-2020 03:56PM

facehugger99 wrote: »

Nobody.

It's amazing the studios haven't figured this out and keep releasing all those blockbusters during the summer for decades now.

Me and so hoping for drive in cinemas to become a permanent thing

skelly22 · 16-06-2020 03:59PM

is_that_so wrote: »

So all you've got is RTE is crap but I've got nothing on how to make it any better. Jeez you couldn't make it up! It's just one source for me and always without the impotent outrage.

How to improve RTE is probably for a separate forum in all fairness. If I was publicly funded to the tune of EUR180M+ I'd have a better bulletin here for you every evening without fail. All I'm saying is I wouldn't be taking RTE news as my main source of information. Might be news to you but it's not to me.

Goldengirl · 16-06-2020 03:59PM

Ginger n Lemon wrote: »

Jesus such dishonest reporting by RTE its disgusting. From the article:

"The number of confirmed coronavirus cases worldwide has now risen to over 8 million, including more than 436,000 deaths since the pandemic first emerged in China late last year.

The number of confirmed cases has doubled since 10 May and another one million new cases have been detected in the last eight days.

Europe has 2,417,902 cases with 188,085 deaths, while the US has 2,110,182 cases and 116,081 deaths."

Not a single word about 55% of recovered cases of the 8 million.

:rolleyes: absolute garbage

No . These are facts .

Ginger n Lemon · 16-06-2020 04:01PM

Goldengirl wrote: »

No . These are facts .

Yes, the fact is 55% + of 8 million "confirmed cases" have recovered.

But you wont see it or hear about it from RTE.

That is also a fact.

Penfailed · 16-06-2020 04:03PM

Goldengirl wrote: »

No . These are facts .

Yeah. They're not the facts as G 'n' L wants them presented though. Bad facts.

Goldengirl · 16-06-2020 04:04PM

Ginger n Lemon wrote: »

Yes, the fact is 55% + of 8 million "confirmed cases" have recovered.

But you wont see it or hear about it from RTE.

That is also a fact.

If they supply numbers of cases along with deaths I think most people can work out that one minus the other is those who did not die .
However "recovered " is another question...

Ginger n Lemon · 16-06-2020 04:04PM

facehugger99 wrote: »

https://www.rte.ie/news/health/2020/0616/1147735-bowel-screening/

It's great all the lives the lock-down merchants are saving.

Jesus Christ

More than 2,700 people are waiting for an urgent colonoscopy to test for bowel cancer, while almost 19,000 people overall are waiting for a colonoscopy.

Relaxation of Restrictions, Part IV - **Read OP for Mod Warnings**

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Relaxation of Restrictions, Part IV - Read OP for Mod Warnings