Relaxation of Restrictions, Part IV - **Read OP for Mod Warnings**

Ginger n Lemon

Penfailed wrote: »

You only choose the facts that suit your narrative.

Tyrone is on the island of Ireland, yes.

Pointing out that 55% of 8 mil cases have recovered suits my narrative?

Tyrone is not in this country, dont get confused.

Also, that was your pretty poor attempt to undermine the obvious statistic of 0 people dying from 1100 meatplant infections in this country. What are you at pointing out that 1 meat plant worker died in Tyrone ?

This reeks of desperation.

Micky 32

Deleted User wrote: »

Passport office is not shut , I work there , been in work every day this week. Shifts being worked 7am -7pm daily. Service has resumed, 1400 hundred passports processed today alone, but there will obviously be a backlog after 3month closure . During Covid emergency staff were working, rest of us we were redeployed to social welfare payments.

What were you doing ?

My partner applied online on Sunday to renew her passport. It came in the post today! That was quick.:eek:

Penfailed

Ginger n Lemon wrote: »

Pointing out that 55% of 8 mil cases have recovered suits my narrative?

Tyrone is not in this country, dont get confused.

Also, that was your pretty poor attempt to undermine the obvious statistic of 0 people dying from 1100 meatplant infections in this country. What are you at pointing out that 1 meat plant worker died in Tyrone ?

This reeks of desperation.

I was pointing out that meat plant workers aren't as immune to the virus as you'd like to promote. Headline - ZERO DEATHS IN MEAT PLANTS. Reality - just north of the border, a meat plant worker who contracted Covid died. The same meat plant from which workers staged a walkout prior to the death due to social distancing not being addressed by management.

average_runner

Ginger n Lemon wrote: »

Damn. That in bold is actual economy scare mongering. even to a guy like me. :pac:

In all seriousness, we shouldnt just disregard our tourism industry.
150,000 - 250,000 jobs in Irish tourism.

Leo should make an effort and lift that idiotic 14 day quarantine form requirement and 14 day quarantine recommendation. It is absolutely useless, a 3rd of arrivals dont even pick up the "mobile phone" when govt rings them to ask if they are quarantining.

Disregard if it means saving more jobs than losses

Dante7

Failte Ireland statement mentions relaxation of 2m rule to 1m for pubs in certain circumstances.

https://twitter.com/gnelis/status/1272969759496245256?s=20

MickeyLeari

hmmm wrote: »

The Supreme Court doesn't make decisions in a vacuum.

The Supreme Court will not be directed by a Government into what it decides.

growleaves

Tourism economy in Wales on 'brink of collapse'

"Whilst once being protective, the Welsh Government's policies are now, as we are in the middle of June, causing further damage unless there is urgent change."

The statement says Welsh Government is causing harm because of "its continued stance of remaining closed for business and travel" and the borders are "effectively shut".

The group's new plea to Mark Drakeford follows what they claim was an answered letter to the first minister last month and warns "the Welsh tourism industry is on the brink of collapse' and "without a clear roadmap to reopening such as those published in England, Scotland and Northern Ireland, the government is causing harm".

Eod100

Looks like VFI has potentiall got concession of 2m to 1m for pubs. https://twitter.com/VFIpubs/status/1272977047334371328?s=19

MickeyLeari

Eod100 wrote: »

Looks like VFI has potentiall got concession of 2m to 1m for pubs. https://twitter.com/VFIpubs/status/1272977047334371328?s=19

Great news for common sense and livelihoods.

road_high

Stark stuff from the Central bank this evening- basically this can’t go on much longer or the banking system will collapse

MickeyLeari

https://www.rte.ie/news/2020/0616/1147852-food-guidance-covid/

9 euro burger and chips + ready to roll.

Meanwhile I will most likely be at home cheering from afar....

MickeyLeari

road_high wrote: »

Stark stuff from the Central bank this evening- basically this can’t go on much longer or the banking system will collapse

Yes we are seriously FUBARED. But sure the lockdown on the Covid was great fun.

igCorcaigh

So, pubs can open but only as restaurants?
I can't go and just buy a beer or five?

Can I buy a coffee and sit in the beer garden?

Smegging hell

Eod100 wrote: »

Looks like VFI has potentiall got concession of 2m to 1m for pubs.

They're not called the Irish NRA for nothing.

nickkinneg

Beijing has gone back into lockdown it’s reported - it’s back apparently

siblers

Penfailed wrote: »

Turns out Sweden now ranks third in the world for Covid deaths per million after the UK and Brazil. Ireland are 20th on the list.

Find it hard to believe Ireland is that high, I guess we were a lot more accurate and stringent with our recording of cases compared to other countries

MickeyLeari

siblers wrote: »

Find it hard to believe Ireland is that high, I guess we were a lot more accurate and stringent with our recording of cases compared to other countries

dropped the ball on nursing home + median age of death was 84.

DebDynamite

Ginger n Lemon wrote: »

Damn. That in bold is actual economy scare mongering. even to a guy like me. :pac:

In all seriousness, we shouldnt just disregard our tourism industry.
150,000 - 250,000 jobs in Irish tourism.

Leo should make an effort and lift that idiotic 14 day quarantine form requirement and 14 day quarantine recommendation. It is absolutely useless, a 3rd of arrivals dont even pick up the "mobile phone" when govt rings them to ask if they are quarantining.

Which countries do we make the majority of our tourism revenue from? The US the the UK. I’m all for opening up internally, but I think it’s a big risk to open up the borders fully. No way should we be allowing the Americans and Brits to enter here without a 14 day quarantine, or at least testing and then release upon negative test. Without those two countries entering, our tourism revenue won’t make much of a dent, so is is really worth opening up? The risk of a second wave and another (albeit possibly localized) lockdown is just too great, for tourism revenue that will be well down anyway.

New Zealand aren’t even letting anyone else into their country, bar NZ nationals and possibly Australians, but yet they still managed to get imported cases after being nearly a month Covid free. If they couldn’t contain it with their measures, what chance do we have?!

Also someone else said on here maybe yesterday that Brazilian students are/will be flying in to “study English”. We can really do without that.

stephenjmcd

igCorcaigh wrote: »

So, pubs can open but only as restaurants?
I can't go and just buy a beer or five?

Can I buy a coffee and sit in the beer garden?

Nope you can't go in just for a drink until July 20th. Until then they're essentially restaurants.

Now your local publican might still let you in for a quiet pint who knows. But by the rules no going in for just a pint until 20th July

MickeyLeari

DebDynamite wrote: »

Which countries do we make the majority of our tourism revenue from? The US the the UK. I’m all for opening up internally, but I think it’s a big risk to open up the borders fully. No way should we be allowing the Americans and Brits to enter here without a 14 day quarantine, or at least testing and then release upon negative test. Without those two countries entering, our tourism revenue won’t make much of a dent, so is is really worth opening up? The risk of a second wave and another (albeit possibly localized) lockdown is just too great for tourism revenue that will be well down anyway.

New Zealand aren’t even letting anyone else into their country, bar NZ nationals and possibly Australians, but yet they still managed to get imported cases after being neatly a month Covid free. If they couldn’t contain it with their measures, what chance do we have?!

Also someone else said on here maybe yesterday that Brazilian students are/will be flying in to “study English”. We can really do without that.

We joined the EEC in 1973 and this is our broader country. I don't care about Brazil, UK and USA. We are European and we created the EU including through Saint Columbanus https://www.irishtimes.com/opinion/columban-the-patron-saint-of-a-united-europe-1.961368.

To conclude, EU should be open and restrict anywhere else according to risk.

MickeyLeari

stephenjmcd wrote: »

Nope you can't go in just for a drink until July 20th. Until then they're essentially restaurants.

Now your local publican might still let you in for a quiet pint who knows. But by the rules no going in for just a pint until 20th July

The Brits did not succeed in shutting the pubs down but essentially we have allowed Leo and Simon to. I wonder how 1916 happened at all.

stephenjmcd

https://twitter.com/adriancummins/status/1272998798646743040?s=19

igCorcaigh

stephenjmcd wrote: »

Nope you can't go in just for a drink until July 20th. Until then they're essentially restaurants.

Now your local publican might still let you in for a quiet pint who knows. But by the rules no going in for just a pint until 20th July

Yeah cheers, I won't be rushing out anyway, just seeing if there might be a place to go have a beer or coffee that's not on the street.

igCorcaigh

And as I was a frequent pub goer, I don't think I'll be rushing to go back to a packed bar to pay €6 for a pint again.

RoryMac

MickeyLeari wrote: »

https://www.rte.ie/news/2020/0616/1147852-food-guidance-covid/

9 euro burger and chips + ready to roll.

Meanwhile I will most likely be at home cheering from afar....

So paying €9 for a burger provides protection against Covid but if you only have a bag of crisps you catch it!

Good to know!

Jackman25

RoryMac wrote: »

So paying €9 for a burger provides protection against Covid but if you only have a bag of crisps you catch it!

Good to know!

Some nonsense. They should just be let open on the 29th. What is going to change 3 weeks later?

stephenjmcd

Jackman25 wrote: »

Some nonsense. They should just be let open on the 29th. What is going to change 3 weeks later?

It'll give them 3 weeks to see any impact of reopening basically, shorter hours so no normal 12.30 last orders etc.

But I agree come the 20th July it just overnight changes that you can go for a pint without food, as if the virus knows on the 20th that you can just go for a pint.

I'd hope that the guidelines are followed but theres going to be plenty of pubs that will just say to regulars and locals, book your table for 9pm and thats it your in now for the night. Shutters down and who's in is in.

TaurenDruid

MickeyLeari wrote: »

The Brits did not succeed in shutting the pubs down but essentially we have allowed Leo and Simon to. I wonder how 1916 happened at all.

Wow. Someone managed to equate 3 months with no draught beer with 800 years of oppression. :rolleyes:

Impressive!

Benimar

stephenjmcd wrote: »

It'll give them 3 weeks to see any impact of reopening basically, shorter hours so no normal 12.30 last orders etc.

But I agree come the 20th July it just overnight changes that you can go for a pint without food, as if the virus knows on the 20th that you can just go for a pint.

I'd hope that the guidelines are followed but theres going to be plenty of pubs that will just say to regulars and locals, book your table for 9pm and thats it your in now for the night. Shutters down and who's in is in.

I think there is an element of tracking numbers as we ease restrictions in case we need to reimpose some. If there is no spike in Phase 3 but the numbers rise a bit in Phase 4 we know opening pubs have a bigger impact than opening restaurants.

Therefore if the wheels do come off in the winter and cases get too high, they will close pubs but not restaurants. That way we don’t have to shut everything down again.

Rodin

Should be loads of Dex swimming around considering Everest was cancelled for this year.