Relaxation of Restrictions, Part IV - **Read OP for Mod Warnings**

MickeyLeari wrote: »

The EU issued a communication this week to that effect. 2 week extension to the controls which were in effect up to 15 June.

Pretty sure alot are reopening borders on Monday coming.
Think the extension to controls are for non eu citizens traveling into the block.

But it looks like our restrictions will drop end of the month

Ginger n Lemon wrote: »

They as in 4,900,000 people in our country?

Yes, except for no.

Most people barely wash their hands.... (i do, before anyone says otherwise :pac: ) lets face it, masks are a no go.

Should be made compulsory in public a long time ago.
Suggestions don't work.

Rodin wrote: »

Should be made compulsory in public a long time ago.
Suggestions don't work.

The hand washing or wearing masks? :pac:

I think - if you want to wear a mask to feel extra safe - wear it. If you dont, dont.

At the end of the day the choice is down to the individual. We cant have 1 gardai for every citizen to police them

Benimar wrote: »

And we will be able to open Schools in the same manner as Denmark ie: half classes.

Whats your problem? We're matching Denmark, we must be doing something right, correct?

Reality is over 20 European countries have re opened their schools already.

My problem is we are not one of them. This whole 1 day per week of school carry on doesnt fill with me with confidence, thats another problem I have.

All of this gives me a cause for concern.

_Kaiser_ wrote: »

As I said weeks ago, it's abot risk and the management of risk.

For healthcare staff dealing with infectious people hourly (and not just Covid patients), masks are entirely appropriate.

For someone not sick, not a higher risk, it's overkill and not even necessarily effective (remembering the advice from the experts weeks ago too). It's a placebo for those who are worried, or advised foe those who ARE at risk - but for the overwhelming majority of the population it's pointless.

The risk now isn't so much from Covid itself, it's from the hysteria from some around it.

Masks are effective in reducing virus transmission.
That's why they're worn in theatres.
The govt wanted them kept for healthcare staff. Weren't enough to go around

[Deleted User] wrote: »

On public transport, yes. Not “in public”. In any other environment (including supermarkets and retail) an individual can move in order to maintain social distance. That is their responsibility. On public transport you are stuck in place. That is the difference. It would be easy enough to enforce. Mask wearing in other environments would be impossible to police

Like shops?
No mask. Don't get in.

Simple.

Ginger n Lemon wrote: »

Welcome to the thread.

There are a couple of posters here who do not want to let go of restrictions.

Who are they , Ginger?

We really seem to have veered to polar extremes in this thread and that's unbalanced.

One teacher says he wants no social distancing when back and others saying teacher should be kitted out in full PPE.

As usual the ideal is somewhere in between. Personally I'm somebody who is utterly sick of this whole thing, all for getting back into the business of life and literally itching to get on a plane and off to somewhere warm asap.

But returning to school with social distancing and other measures all gone? Having the kids all over me and all over each other? I think that would be reckless especially as schools are crowded and noisy indoor environments.

I really hope that a common sense, middle of the road approach will be adopted. I certainly don't want to have to try to teach through a mask but I would like to see lots of hand sanitisers and some kind of workable social distancing of perhaps a metre. How doable it will all be remains to be seen and I haven't even thought that far ahead but this being cautious Ireland, there's no way we'll be as back to normal as we'd like come September. And you'll also have the prolockdown parents on our case if we teachers are not shining beacons of post lockdown Ireland.:rolleyes:

iamwhoiam wrote: »

https://www.rte.ie/news/education/2020/0612/1147075-two-metres-school/


Did you read the article ? Children will be back full time in September

Where does it say WILL. It certainly says AIMS.

Absolutely, they have to aim for it, but that doesn't mean it will happen.

Cork Boy 53 wrote: »

So you would be in favour of completely abandoning all public health measures immediately. Is that correct?

I think we need to do the following (said this before too weeks ago):

- Accelerate the reopening of businesses and employers (still too slowly)
- Continue to advise those who have underlying conditions, are above 60, and vulnerable to limit their social interactions as much as possible
- Continue to advise good hygiene (hand washing, coughing into elbows etc)
- Reduce social distancing immediately to 1m where practical. Altogether if necessary but subject to the above guidelines, sanitisers, cleaning etc
- Remove all domestic travel restrictions immediately

BUT... we are now at a point (and have been for weeks!) where individuals need to take personal responsibility for their own situation and act accordingly. No-one is saying you CAN'T wear a mask, or self-isolate or do whatever you feel necessary to protect yourself, but the rest of us need to be able to get fully back to work and living to restore economic productivity, reduce mental stress and pressures, and adjust to the new norm which is living alongside CV-19, not hiding away from it!

Hysteria, curtain-twitching and virtue-signalling are making the situation worse and prolonging the pain and worry that many have around this situation, but as the numbers (thankfully!) show there's absolutely no basis for it in reality.

For all the Gerry Killeen fans here, he's back again this time talking about sport

https://www.the42.ie/how-long-before-crowds-allowed-back-to-games-5121369-Jun2020/?utm_source=shortlink

MickeyLeari wrote: »

Yes. Benelux are opening up but France still closed. EU Communication allowed for infra-EU restrictions to apply for a further two weeks and indeed signalled an opening up for non-EU from 1 July depending on the origin.

Makes sense, looks like end of June / start of July anyway for the resumption of travel

Goldengirl wrote: »

I thought you were saying you would go back despite rules and union decisions, at least that is the impression from your post .
Everyone is entitled to their own personal opinions and views.
However that doesn't mean you can flout the rules that have been agreed between the government and your union , unless you are really going to go it alone .
Hence the meaning of my previous post .

No I never said I would flout rules or union decisions.
I simply said that as a teacher I would be willing to go back in September with no social distancing! Some teachers are not willing and that's their opinion and up to them.
If the decision is to have 1m or 2m in place etc I will adhere to it...but wouldn't necessarily agree with it.