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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,313 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves


    Completely sick to the hole of cattle. Feeding them strong for the last few weeks and some are scouring. One lame but nothing in foot. Definitely under stocking after this summer.

    But they are horsing on the weight. Rant over.!

    I am reducing as well hitting 170 kgs of N/ HA will reduce down by 20% dry summers are killing ne

    Slava Ukrainii



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 213 ✭✭270WIN


    I am reducing as well hitting 170 kgs of N/ HA will reduce down by 20% dry summers are killing ne

    Drought has forced me to sell my cattle at mart when i would normally finish em. Had to reduce numbers way down. Sick of it as well


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,396 ✭✭✭✭patsy_mccabe


    There isn't a day that goes by, that I don't have to pick some plastic or another from a field, I have near the main road.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,633 ✭✭✭High bike


    Some dirty fcukers constantly dumping bags of sh1t on our road,but the worst I saw was a dead foal dumped in a gateway 100 yds from my house a couple of yrs ago


  • Posts: 0 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Our outside place backs onto to council estate. Some of the most ignorant people I've ever met in my life.
    Firing mattresses, rubble or rubish over their back garden walls on to my fence.
    Im the boll icks then when cattle are out.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,068 ✭✭✭Dickie10


    yea a few drier summers doing serious harm here too, thinkin of cutting numbers of heifers as well, better off with a 100 more store lambs and 20 less cattle


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,313 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves


    Jjameson wrote: »
    The job is on a knife edge I believe. The cartel wish to orchestrate a sizeable pull however numbers are increasing but not at a level where they can all pull the same day. The independent plants and medium abattoirs seem to be fairly fit.
    I’m starting to gain hope.

    A side note Tim Cullinans /ifa scathing response to the competition authority press release was very good. (Yesterday’s farming independent). No raids, no examination of emails, phone records or any insight as to how the illusive price pulls come in perfect unison come but there’s no evidence of a cartel. A great big coincidence!!

    Banana republic.

    I say the rain will reduce numbers lots of farmers that were fairly well stocked were starting to move numbers as well as dairy/beef operations under pressure as well. Heard of cases of farmers buying silage to feed to bullocks. Even on heavy farms growth had slowed.

    As well under 30 month cattle will get tight at some stage. Plenty of cows around but the danger of s large dairy cow cull because of milk prices and poor grass growth may have disappeared

    Slava Ukrainii



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 351 ✭✭Duke92


    Jjameson wrote: »
    The job is on a knife edge I believe. The cartel wish to orchestrate a sizeable pull however numbers are increasing but not at a level where they can all pull the same day. The independent plants and medium abattoirs seem to be fairly fit.
    I’m starting to gain hope.

    A side note Tim Cullinans /ifa scathing response to the competition authority press release was very good. (Yesterday’s farming independent). No raids, no examination of emails, phone records or any insight as to how the illusive price pulls come in perfect unison come but there’s no evidence of a cartel. A great big coincidence!!

    Banana republic.

    That’s complete rubbish the smaller factories are the only ones trying to pull the price there unlikely to pull them in the bigger processors so I’ve been told


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,660 ✭✭✭Robson99


    Jjameson wrote: »
    So the small plants lead the charge on prices and Larry keeps them honest!
    Great thank for that.. who knew eh....

    I was hoping he was being sarcastic....
    The day the small plants lead the charge will be the day we have some hope


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,839 ✭✭✭✭Water John


    Don't forget Larry has them by the fifth quarter.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 351 ✭✭Duke92


    Jjameson wrote: »
    So the small plants lead the charge on prices and Larry keeps them honest!
    Great thank for that.. who knew eh....


    Well all the big plants are on €3:60 moyvalley €3:55 the trim on cattle is always harder in them smaler factories
    Iast year sent a few was very disappointed with kill out should have let them over age ( a lessen )


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,506 ✭✭✭✭wrangler


    Apparently another BEAM scheme going to be announced today
    Beef plan will probably continue to abuse Creed , you'd wonder what'd please them.
    They're definitely no help to beef promotion and sales


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 971 ✭✭✭leoch


    Were does the beam money come from is it europe or is it the tax payer .......basically its paying larrys bill is wat it boils down to again


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 971 ✭✭✭leoch


    Larry will be fairly laughing again today not only has he all the farmers profits... then our great government says hold on larry we will pick up this tap for u aswell....again


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 476 ✭✭jntsnk


    leoch wrote: »
    Larry will be fairly laughing again today not only has he all the farmers profits... then our great government says hold on larry we will pick up this tap for u aswell....again

    Factory prices will fall as soon as farmers get any government support because they will be able to get away with it then


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,506 ✭✭✭✭wrangler


    leoch wrote: »
    Were does the beam money come from is it europe or is it the tax payer .......basically its paying larrys bill is wat it boils down to again


    this one is coming from the Irish taxpayer, mightn't be as difficult to comply with this time .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,506 ✭✭✭✭wrangler


    Jjameson wrote: »
    Beef plan still call by every morning to take a big dunk on your lawn? The beam scheme is a joke without a real investigation into the profitability of the processing and and retail of Irish beef. A 3 month Uk European and Irish retail price watch would be money better spent in the long term.

    Another quango , there's no way that processors will be bullied no matter what information you have. supply and demand sets the price


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,481 ✭✭✭epfff


    jntsnk wrote: »
    Factory prices will fall as soon as farmers get any government support because they will be able to get away with it then

    Factory prices fell in the knowledge there friends in Government will provide lifeline to keep suppliers from exiting the business.
    I did accept Beam I will accept next payment because it helps to keep me a float but I do believe these payments are of more long term benefit to processors than farmers.
    If these payments stoped and market forces made producers leave the industry processors would have to pay higher prices or they would run out of raw material.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 971 ✭✭✭leoch


    They wont be bullied cause they have our government backing them up like mi5 or mi6 or watever there called


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,660 ✭✭✭Robson99


    wrangler wrote: »
    Another quango , there's no way that processors will be bullied no matter what information you have. supply and demand sets the price

    The demand is always there.
    It's the skull duggary on the supply thats the problem


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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,854 Mod ✭✭✭✭blue5000


    Any quotes for next week yet?

    If the seat's wet, sit on yer hat, a cool head is better than a wet ar5e.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,578 ✭✭✭morphy87


    I presume if this scheme is Covid related the reference period will be from mid March to now?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16 jeffrey


    Recently slaughtered cattle in N. I. What are the chances of being eligible for the new BEAM scheme


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,313 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves


    If it 80 euro/ head it will cover about w
    20_22 weeks of slaughtering, if it 100/ head about 16-18 weeks, 120/ head would give 13-14 weeks. A couple of provision's it paid on all cattle, cows, bull, etc but excludes calves slaughtered at less than 6 months of age. It paid to all farmers regardless of there main activity.

    Yes I imagine if you had cattle slaughtered in NI would they would qualify as it's a COVID scheme., It might even be paid on cattle gone to Algeria that went direct to slaughter.

    Slava Ukrainii



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,106 ✭✭✭kk.man


    I had 28 eligible cattle for BEAM if this new scheme runs from the start of Covid till now I'll get nothing. I have the same amount of cattle as I had. They will want to think this thing out.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,578 ✭✭✭morphy87


    kk.man wrote: »
    I had 28 eligible cattle for BEAM if this new scheme runs from the start of Covid till now I'll get nothing. I have the same amount of cattle as I had. They will want to think this thing out.

    When you mean beam what do you mean date wise? Why was their talks of another beam and if so what dates?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,106 ✭✭✭kk.man


    morphy87 wrote: »
    When you mean beam what do you mean date wise? Why was their talks of another beam and if so what dates?

    It is muted from start of Covid 19 till now as the reference dates for the new scheme announced by the minister today.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,578 ✭✭✭morphy87


    kk.man wrote: »
    It is muted from start of Covid 19 till now as the reference dates for the new scheme announced by the minister today.

    Sorry I don’t get you when you mean you had 28 but now you might get nothing?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,106 ✭✭✭kk.man


    morphy87 wrote: »
    Sorry I don’t get you when you mean you had 28 but now you might get nothing?
    The last beams reference dates were between July and November... I stand corrected as to the exact dates... In other words it the time of the year you kill cattle at.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,578 ✭✭✭morphy87


    kk.man wrote: »
    The last beams reference dates were between July and November... I stand corrected as to the exact dates... In other words it the time of the year you kill cattle at.

    There was only one beam? The reference period was mid September 18 to mid May 19, there was talk of another beam but I didn’t hear anymore did you?


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