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downtown3858

MfMan wrote: »

Anyone hear of a problem with BSE/China?

Yep. All China markets now closed due to BSE case in Ireland . Pull in beef prices incoming

Reggie.

downtown3858 wrote: »

Yep. All China markets now closed due to BSE case in Ireland . Pull in beef prices incoming

Sure weren't we being told that china wasnt a great market for irish beef due to them only wanting the finest cuts and the other 3/4 of the animal no use to the china market. Amazing how if price is pulled how it suits the factories now

kk.man

Reggie. wrote: »

Sure weren't we being told that china wasnt a great market for irish beef due to them only wanting the finest cuts and the other 3/4 of the animal no use to the china market. Amazing how if price is pulled how it suits the factories now

Yea more fake news by MII if China took the good cuts there was ample market in UK and Europe for the lesser ones as we have gone mince mad. Kantar worldpanel stated sales increased by 12% in April when processors said they were depressed.

Bass Reeves

kk.man wrote: »

Yea more fake news by MII if China took the good cuts there was ample market in UK and Europe for the lesser ones as we have gone mince mad. Kantar worldpanel stated sales increased by 12% in April when processors said they were depressed.

It amazing confirmation comes from a virtually new uses

wrangler

kk.man wrote: »

Yea more fake news by MII if China took the good cuts there was ample market in UK and Europe for the lesser ones as we have gone mince mad. Kantar worldpanel stated sales increased by 12% in April when processors said they were depressed.

MII are bigger fools to be telling farmers anything, no one believes them so why bother

kk.man

wrangler wrote: »

MII are bigger fools to be telling farmers anything, no one believes them so why bother

Do you believe them Wrangler?

Robson99

wrangler wrote: »

MII are bigger fools to be telling farmers anything, no one believes them so why bother

I would have as much respect for MII as I would have for fresh cow****e on a new pair of shoes. Why should the farmer trust them

kowloonkev

One cow tests positive for BSE. Isn't that strange? As someone who doesn't have a good understanding of the industry, are there any benefits in having this excuse to suspend export to China?

wrangler

kk.man wrote: »

Do you believe them Wrangler?

I always believe half of what I see and nothing of what I hear.

They shouldn't have to explain anything, we lose input when the animal walks off the ramp, they could throw it in the skip or get €5000 for it, no explanation required. they won't give a damn whether we believe it or not
A lot of the reported excuses from MII can be hearsay from some lying farmers too.
''you wouldn't believe the radio in his jeep'' is how one vocal farmer was described to me.

Duke92

kowloonkev wrote: »

One cow tests positive for BSE. Isn't that strange? As someone who doesn't have a good understanding of the industry, are there any benefits in having this excuse to suspend export to China?

What a stupid statement
Obviously not

Buford T. Justice XIX

kowloonkev wrote: »

One cow tests positive for BSE. Isn't that strange? As someone who doesn't have a good understanding of the industry, are there any benefits in having this excuse to suspend export to China?

Yes.

This is an agreed protocol in cases where there is a case of BSE in the country. The suspension stays until confirmation that this is an atypical BSE case when trade reopens again, similar to 2017, the last time there was a confirmed case in the country. I don't remember if this will mean a renewed round of inspections of safety protocols across the approved factories or not so that might slow down the reopening of the trade again.

The trouble starts if it's a normal BSE case where all exports could be stopped.

Reggie.

Buford T. Justice VI wrote: »

Yes.

This is an agreed protocol in cases where there is a case of BSE in the country. The suspension stays until confirmation that this is an atypical BSE case when trade reopens again, similar to 2017, the last time there was a confirmed case in the country. I don't remember if this will mean a renewed round of inspections of safety protocols across the approved factories or not so that might slow down the reopening of the trade again.

The trouble starts if it's a normal BSE case where all exports could be stopped.

Isn't it amazing that they are do particular about our beef but will eat anything that moves in thier own country

Buford T. Justice XIX

Reggie. wrote: »

Isn't it amazing that they are do particular about our beef but will eat anything that moves in thier own country

Like cattle being blamed for global warming, the first reports of hundreds of millions potentially infected with CJD is the one to have stuck in peoples minds.

I'm trying to think if it even went over 200? Get your agenda out first, regardless of any truth it may have, seems to be a successful strategy.

Say my name

Reggie. wrote: »

Isn't it amazing that they are do particular about our beef but will eat anything that moves in thier own country

It's all about keeping the population happy and content.
Food standards on imported stuff leads the population to believe the government cares about them.
Non food standards on their own stuff leads the Chinese people that sell it to believe the government cares about them and wants to lift them out of poverty.

Just realised ..the complete opposite of Ireland and the EU. :pac: :rolleyes:

weatherbyfoxer

in a dire situation here for grass with the drought and have a batch of AA and FR bullocks 4-6 week off slaughter...anyone here feed straight rolled barley to bullocks for the last 6 weeks on grass?..how many kg is safe to start them off on and how many kg could you build them up to?

memorystick

Rolled barley mightn’t be the best on grass.

Duke92

memorystick wrote: »

Rolled barley mightn’t be the best on grass.

Agree you’d want to have stemy grass really for a good fibre source or guve them a bale of straw

kowloonkev

Duke92 wrote: »

What a stupid statement
Obviously not

At least I know the difference between a question and a statement.

I was thinking more along the lines of the cost of export increasing, or labour increasing or operating costs due to Covid and all that that demands.

Or maybe even a political reason.

Like I said I don't know the industry so I just asked a question.

bogman_bass

Jjameson wrote: »

It was a fair question in my view. A typical bse in an old cow. Chinsee markets is taking predominantly 4th and 5 quarter beef and offal from under 30 month cattle. China a bastion of food safety!!? 4th qaurter is now in demand. But a timely bad news story now that the first draft of grass cattle is starting in earnest.

This job ain’t never going to change in our time.

4th quarter?

Water John

Fore, rather than 4, IWT.

mf240

Any quotes for the week ahead.

CHOPS01

What are BBX like to flesh ? Separated 8 bullocks yesterday with 4 in the group to start feeding. Will get a bag between em for a week and then up to 5kg a day. In good condition at the moment so hoping they'll be right in 6/7 weeks.

Duke92

CHOPS01 wrote: »

What are BBX like to flesh ? Separated 8 bullocks yesterday with 4 in the group to start feeding. Will get a bag between em for a week and then up to 5kg a day. In good condition at the moment so hoping they'll be right in 6/7 weeks.

Hard you could give them 8kg and spilt it twice a day

CHOPS01

Duke92 wrote: »

Hard you could give them 8kg and spilt it twice a day

Could manage it alright. Could you go from the 3kg up to 8kg ?

CloughCasey1

CHOPS01 wrote: »

Could manage it alright. Could you go from the 3kg up to 8kg ?

What age are they and are they dairy bred. They are hard enough to finish earlier than 30mts. You could stagger the rise in meal over a week.

CHOPS01

CloughCasey1 wrote: »

What age are they and are they dairy bred. They are hard enough to finish earlier than 30mts. You could stagger the rise in meal over a week.

26/27 months off British Fr. Nice shape to them but not carrying flesh.

declanflynn

CHOPS01 wrote: »

26/27 months off British Fr. Nice shape to them but not carrying flesh.

what kinda weight are you hoping they will kill?

CHOPS01

declanflynn wrote: »

what kinda weight are you hoping they will kill?

Reckon they are 625kg plus at the momemt. Would hope to see em kill out around 340/350 kg.

declanflynn

CHOPS01 wrote: »

Reckon they are 625kg plus at the momemt. Would hope to see em kill out around 340/350 kg.

from my experience 350 is achievable, I always taut I had good ones but they grading always disappointed only a few o+'s

CHOPS01

Jjameson wrote: »

If they are off British Friesian and warmish type then they can be some of the best performing cattle going.

Have been very impressed with their thrive over the last 2-3 weeks.