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Covid19 Part XVIII-25,473 in ROI(1,736 deaths) 5,760 in NI (551 deaths)(30/06)Read OP

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    celt262 wrote: »
    NPHET have really nailed this well done all keep on fighting.

    FYP.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 18,583 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    rusty cole wrote: »
    Can I just be sure on something.

    We have 4.9 million people in ireland...ish correct.
    As of today, the confirmed cases of covid -19 were 25,238.00, testing over the last 3 months say.

    Am I correct in saying as of today, .0051% of Ireland are infected yes?
    or at least that we know of. a half of 1% of Ireland, have been reported as having covid 19 since march, many of whom have recovered because of the time which has lapsed.

    ....

    Something about lockdown stopping the virus...mumble mumble...stopping people get infected...mumble mumble...not overcrowding ICU with sick people so we have to decide who lives or dies...


  • Posts: 3,270 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Jim_Hodge wrote: »
    0.5% not .0051%.

    For every million people 345 have died and the number of cases is probably much higher.

    apologies to clarify, .0051 or indeed 0.5%, jesus that's still very low FFS.
    I 100% agree lockdown was brilliant in how we tackled it, I still don't see the figure going near what others say, algorithm or no algorithm.

    Sure Karl friston is now saying that even without antibodies, up to 80% are not even susceptible to Covid, looking at the math, he could be right.

    Im only inciting debate ok, i'm not JK rowling so relax and have a glass of wine some of you.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,149 ✭✭✭Polar101


    rusty cole wrote: »
    I also know that restrictions had a huge impact of course but

    There's no need to include the 'but', you can end it right there.


  • Posts: 3,270 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Polar101 wrote: »
    There's no need to include the 'but', you can end it right there.


    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/health/coronavirus-ireland-warned-tens-of-thousands-could-die-if-advice-is-ignored-1.4207362

    for 90 days lads then back to work washing hands and staying 2mtr apart, and we'll save 10's of thousands of lives!!

    yeah ok.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,783 ✭✭✭✭BorneTobyWilde


    8 cases, 8 dead
    100% death rate
    We're doomed


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,651 ✭✭✭✭Jim_Hodge


    8 cases, 8 dead
    100% death rate
    We're doomed

    What a crap thing to say.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,783 ✭✭✭✭BorneTobyWilde


    Jim_Hodge wrote: »
    What a crap thing to say.


    I was kidding.
    WHOOSH


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 122 ✭✭Chicoso


    I like how they slipped in about there being no evidence that Cheltenham and the Italians contributed to the spread of the virus

    Like there would be any evidence


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,048 ✭✭✭✭blade1


    Chicoso wrote: »
    I like how they slipped in about there being no evidence that Cheltenham and the Italians contributed to the spread of the virus

    Like there would be any evidence

    Someone near me went to Cheltenham and caught it.
    One of his family got it when he came home.
    That's spreading it.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,651 ✭✭✭✭Jim_Hodge


    I was kidding.
    WHOOSH

    Not all 'kidding' is amusing. Some is just plain old fashioned bad taste.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,645 ✭✭✭Micky 32


    blade1 wrote: »
    Someone near me went to Cheltenham and caught it.
    One of his family got it when he came home.
    That's spreading it.

    I know a few people who went to Cheltenham and they never caught it . I know people who didn’t go to Cheltenham and they caught it.

    Btw i think it should have been stopped though.


  • Site Banned Posts: 5,975 ✭✭✭podgeandrodge


    It's a reasonable opinion to consider that masks would be appropriate on public transport now as greater numbers travel together in confined spaces.

    I don't quite get though, given virus is practically extinguished in terms of community transmission, and this happened while supermarkets were open, why people think shoppers in supermarkets should now wear masks.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,842 ✭✭✭Rob A. Bank


    Looking at the global picture throws up some apparent contradictions.

    According to Worldometer the number of reported daily cases keeps rising but the number of daily deaths is falling ! (scroll down a little)

    I have no idea why this should be happening...

    Better treatment ?

    The virus getting less lethal ?

    Countries fiddling the figures ?

    Poor reporting as regions of the world with less developed medical systems are now being affected ?


    Thoughts ?


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 12,992 Mod ✭✭✭✭igCorcaigh


    Looking at the global picture throws up some apparent contradictions.

    According to Worldometer the number of reported daily cases keeps rising but the number of daily deaths is falling ! (scroll down a little)

    I have no idea why this should be happening...

    Better treatment ?

    The virus getting less lethal ?

    Countries fiddling the figures ?

    Poor reporting as regions of the world with less developed medical systems are now being affected ?


    Thoughts ?

    Time lag between case reports and death?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,846 ✭✭✭Always_Running


    Believe it or not I`m not mad at all bud. I still feel though that it would be wise to wait until the beginning of next week and see if there is a continued steady decline in cases before we can safely conclude that this first wave is flatlining.

    So far this week (4 days) we had 45 cases, we are well on course to be have much less cases than last week which had 249 cases.

    Weekly total number of cases two weeks ago was 351, three weeks ago it 527 cases and 4 weeks ago we had 1116 cases.

    The last number of weeks confirms the first and hopefully only wave has been flattened.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 524 ✭✭✭DevilsHaircut


    rusty cole wrote: »
    as opposed to how many heart attacks normally?? WTF.
    You do know stress and lack of exercise increase your risk of heart attacks don't you???

    A lethal global pandemic is likely to cause stress.

    There have never been restrictions on exercise, anywhere.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,455 ✭✭✭jobeenfitz


    Jim_Hodge wrote: »
    Not all 'kidding' is amusing. Some is just plain old fashioned bad taste.


    Jesus, humour. Just ignore it if it bothers ya. I suspect you just want to find posts that bother you?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 524 ✭✭✭DevilsHaircut


    NDWC wrote: »
    Who's "they"? Obviously nowhere in Europe

    Hyperbolic nonsense

    Not really. Cases are trending up in several European countries.


    https://ig.ft.com/coronavirus-chart/?areas=svn&areas=est&areas=nld&areas=grc&areas=prt&areas=fra&areasRegional=usny&areasRegional=usnj&cumulative=0&logScale=1&perMillion=0&values=cases


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,651 ✭✭✭✭Jim_Hodge


    jobeenfitz wrote: »
    Jesus, humour. Just ignore it if it bothers ya. I suspect you just want to find posts that bother you?

    You seem a mite put out yourself there.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,455 ✭✭✭jobeenfitz


    Jim_Hodge wrote: »
    You seem a mite put out yourself there.

    I think some of us Irish people can find humour at the worst of times. It's healthy IMO.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,853 ✭✭✭✭silverharp


    Looking at the global picture throws up some apparent contradictions.

    According to Worldometer the number of reported daily cases keeps rising but the number of daily deaths is falling ! (scroll down a little)

    I have no idea why this should be happening...

    Better treatment ?

    The virus getting less lethal ?

    Countries fiddling the figures ?

    Poor reporting as regions of the world with less developed medical systems are now being affected ?


    Thoughts ?

    hopefully weaker strains or its summer and people can fight it better or with social distancing people are getting lower viral loads

    A belief in gender identity involves a level of faith as there is nothing tangible to prove its existence which, as something divorced from the physical body, is similar to the idea of a soul. - Colette Colfer



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,853 ✭✭✭✭silverharp


    seems like these should open up pronto

    https://twitter.com/jbarro/status/1271189901460082688

    A belief in gender identity involves a level of faith as there is nothing tangible to prove its existence which, as something divorced from the physical body, is similar to the idea of a soul. - Colette Colfer



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,553 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    HSE Operations report relased

    As of 18:30, 27 in ICU down from 29, those on ventilators 14 tonight, 16 last night.

    In general beds as I suspected with last nights number of 75 a reporting issue from Tallaght hospital last night. Tallaght reported a sudden drop to 0 last night which clearly wasn't accurate.

    The good news as of 8pm 79 confirmed cases in general beds across the country. Taking into account the reporting last night its another reduction in hosptial numbers tonight.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 20,582 Mod ✭✭✭✭Sam Russell


    Looking at the global picture throws up some apparent contradictions.

    According to Worldometer the number of reported daily cases keeps rising but the number of daily deaths is falling ! (scroll down a little)

    I have no idea why this should be happening...

    Better treatment ?

    The virus getting less lethal ?

    Countries fiddling the figures ?

    Poor reporting as regions of the world with less developed medical systems are now being affected ?


    Thoughts ?

    It is obvious that reports from some countries are fiction.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,800 ✭✭✭Benimar


    HSE Operations report relased

    As of 18:30, 27 in ICU down from 29, those on ventilators 14 tonight, 16 last night.

    In general beds as I suspected with last nights number of 75 a reporting issue from Tallaght hospital last night. Tallaght reported a sudden drop to 0 last night which clearly wasn't accurate.

    The good news as of 8pm 79 confirmed cases in general beds across the country. Taking into account the reporting last night its another reduction in hosptial numbers tonight.

    What’s with the figures to the right? Total confirmed cases last 24 hours. They seem all over the place every day. Why would there be less confirmed cases at 8pm than 8am?

    I’m probably missing something obvious!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,204 ✭✭✭✭Utopia Parkway


    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/06/10/lockdown-unnecessary-claims-german-virologist/?WT.mc_id=tmgliveapp_iosshare_AvcqyXtybFSlb

    Prof Hendrik Streeck predicts there will be no second wave

    By Justin Huggler
    BERLIN
    10 June 2020 • 5:13pm

    One of Germany’s most prominent virologists has said the country’s lockdown was unnecessary to defeat the coronavirus.

    “We went into lockdown too quickly because the prevailing concern was that there might not be enough intensive care beds and that there was pressure from the public,” Prof Hendrik Streeck said.

    “We are seeing a lot of asymptomatic cases, that is infections with no consequences. This means we can assess the danger from the virus better. I still don’t believe that at the end of the year we will have had more deaths in Germany than in other years.”

    Prof Streeck led the first comprehensive study into the effects of the coronavirus on an entire community in the German town of Gangelt.

    The controversial study found the fatality rate for the virus was much lower than at first thought, at just 0.37 per cent.

    It also found that ten times more people than previously thought may have acquired immunity to the virus.

    “My position has always been that the virus should not be trivialized, but that it shouldn’t be overdramatised either,” Prof Streeck told Neue Osnabrücker Zeitung newspaper.

    “I agreed with the initial restrictions and the ban on major events. After they were imposed, the infection process already started to decrease. I would have made further measures, such as contact restrictions, dependent on the actual course of the outbreak, in order to see how effective restrictions are and whether additional steps are really necessary.”

    Prof Streeck said he did not expect a second wave of infections. “I don’t think we’ll see a big surge in Covid 19 infections again, but if we do we should be careful not to take such strong measures as we did in the spring,” he said.

    “There will always be further outbreaks. So far, they have been rather harmless. Of course that requires coordinated and continuous monitoring.”

    Prof Streeck’s intervention comes with no sign of a second wave in Germany more than seven weeks after the country began lifting its lockdown.

    But his claims are likely to stir controversy. The Gangelt study he headed came under sustained attack from rival scientists who claimed it underplays the risk from the virus.

    They claim it was commissioned for political purposes by the regional government of North Rhine-Westphalia, whose leader Armin Laschet opposed the lockdown — allegations Prof Streeck denies.

    He spoke out in support of schools reopening. “Children are not major carriers for this virus. This is known virologically. The decision now has to be made politically,” he said.

    “In any case, teachers have no higher risk of infection than other professional groups that work with people, such as nurses or sales staff.”

    And he was critical of the requirement to wear facemasks in shops and on public transport in Germany.

    “At the beginning of the pandemic, masks were specifically warned against. The reasons for this still apply, even if, strangely enough, they no longer seem to matter to anyone.

    “People shuffle the masks in their pockets, hold them constantly and strap them over their mouths for two weeks, probably unwashed. This is a wonderful breeding ground for bacteria and fungi.”


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,783 ✭✭✭✭BorneTobyWilde


    Got the Bleach and the Temp reader mixed up, used wrong hand



    https://www.dumpert.nl/item/7928707_0e0d38f7


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 949 ✭✭✭Renjit


    It's a reasonable opinion to consider that masks would be appropriate on public transport now as greater numbers travel together in confined spaces.

    I don't quite get though, given virus is practically extinguished in terms of community transmission, and this happened while supermarkets were open, why people think shoppers in supermarkets should now wear masks.

    I would wear because I may be asymptomatic. Better safe than sorry.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 949 ✭✭✭Renjit


    Looking at the global picture throws up some apparent contradictions.

    According to Worldometer the number of reported daily cases keeps rising but the number of daily deaths is falling ! (scroll down a little)

    I have no idea why this should be happening...

    Better treatment ?

    The virus getting less lethal ?

    Countries fiddling the figures ?

    Poor reporting as regions of the world with less developed medical systems are now being affected ?


    Thoughts ?

    The numbers are going down in Europe now.

    North America, South America and South Asia is contributing more to the numbers now. Data fudging is not new in South Asia where governments would like to show a good report card.


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