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Relaxation of Restrictions, Part IV - **Read OP for Mod Warnings**

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  • Posts: 10,049 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Pete_Cavan wrote: »
    My point is that the January comparison gives a relevant scale. Saying deaths were higher in an April when a new virus was circulating than an April where no such factors were present doesn't really tell you a lot.

    It does, it tells you the impact of the virus. The best measure will be full year mortality however


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,892 ✭✭✭✭average_runner


    Are you serious?

    A bit like 85 year olds with heart disease were in trouble before covid came?

    Do you really think businesses operate with huge cash reserves and healthy profit margins?

    Your complete lack of understand of ACTUAL jobs being lost is frightening. Why didnt you tell Monsoon employees to look for a new job last year? genius :rolleyes:


    It was in the news last year they were close to folding. They shut shops down last year also.


    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/news/monsoon-accessorize-cva-collapse-peter-simon-a9162006.html



    There are a certain amount of shops that are in real trouble before covid came and even if they survive covid they be gone within a year.


    Next is changing its whole model to the online model.


    M&S is in trouble also and has been shutting down stories for the last 2 years


    The high street as we know it is gone and it was gone before covid.


    Online is the only way, get with the times or shut


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,447 ✭✭✭Ginger n Lemon


    It was in the news last year they were close to folding. They shut shops down last year also.


    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/news/monsoon-accessorize-cva-collapse-peter-simon-a9162006.html



    There are a certain amount of shops that are in real trouble before covid came and even if they survive covid they be gone within a year.


    Next is changing its whole model to the online model.


    M&S is in trouble also and has been shutting down stories for the last 2 years


    The high street as we know it is gone and it was gone before covid.


    Online is the only way, get with the times or shut

    If thats the case, and i appreciate its the case to SOME extent, you should write a letter to Paschal and tell him to stop handing out money to high street stores. :pac:

    Although it may be a non runner.

    :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,892 ✭✭✭✭average_runner


    Excellent news to start off your day

    Reopening of hairdressers and barbers set to be brought forward to June 29th

    On Wednesday Taoiseach Leo Varadkar said hairdressers could be allowed to reopen earlier than previously planned, and he described as “too slow” the Government’s initial five-phase road map to reopen the country from the coronavirus lockdown by August.

    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/reopening-of-hairdressers-and-barbers-set-to-be-brought-forward-to-june-29th-1.4276398

    Dont be cutting your own hair now, less than 3 weeks left




    Invested in the tools so will do it home from here in. No more queues


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 713 ✭✭✭manniot2


    The scale of the job losses being announced internationally is beyond frightening. And its a tip of the iceberg compared to what is coming proportionally in this country. At least, according to the latest propaganda add by RTE and Ryan Tubridy, "you did it for Ireland".


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,047 ✭✭✭Clonmel1000


    Invested in the tools so will do it home from here in. No more queues

    Are you not in the slightest concerned to see the disappearance and destruction of the high street?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,065 ✭✭✭Santy2015


    In fairness to Simon Harris this morning he’s being positive and only 75 people in hospital as of 8am this morning which is excellent considering there was nearly 900 at the peak.
    But yet you go on the RTÉ app or the journal. Main headline!
    Number of people being contact traced increase since lockdown started to ease on the 18th of May. Would they ever just F OFF!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,265 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


    Can you please start to do your homework before you post. These stores were in trouble over 2 years ago, like Debenhams and others.

    That never matters to Ginger any business struggling in the next few months will be blamed on government/covid when they were already facing the chop long before.


    Ginger even tried to blame covid for joe.ie struggling ffs :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,135 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Santy2015 wrote: »
    In fairness to Simon Harris this morning he’s being positive and only 75 people in hospital as of 8am this morning which is excellent considering there was nearly 900 at the peak.
    But yet you go on the RTÉ app or the journal. Main headline!
    Number of people being contact traced increase since lockdown started to ease on the 18th of May. Would they ever just F OFF!!
    That headline is largely down to one person naming 25 contacts.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,892 ✭✭✭✭average_runner


    Are you not in the slightest concerned to see the disappearance and destruction of the high street?




    Not really, the high street is a place that over charges people, has no customer service and standard of quality is gone through the floor.


    The shops that do have the quality will survive as people will go to them always.


    But its time to get rid of the trash


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,447 ✭✭✭Ginger n Lemon


    Not really, the high street is a place that over charges people, has no customer service and standard of quality is gone through the floor.


    The shops that do have the quality will survive as people will go to them always.


    But its time to get rid of the trash

    Ruthless


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,889 ✭✭✭✭road_high


    manniot2 wrote: »
    The scale of the job losses being announced internationally is beyond frightening. And its a tip of the iceberg compared to what is coming proportionally in this country. At least, according to the latest propaganda add by RTE and Ryan Tubridy, "you did it for Ireland".

    All the people proclaiming that ****e are all working from home on full salary or working away as usual. If we were truly "all in it together" then we'd all be on the €350 per week regardless of profession or payscale. So no, we aren't in it together and never were.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,892 ✭✭✭✭average_runner


    Ruthless




    True and its what the country needs. We shouldn't be carrying anyone that doesn't try to help


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,892 ✭✭✭✭average_runner


    road_high wrote: »
    All the people proclaiming that ****e are all working from home on full salary or working away as usual. If we were truly "all in it together" then we'd all be on the €350 per week regardless of profession or payscale. So no, we aren't in it together and never were.




    Feck if you want to do my job for 350 a week, off you go. I sit back and take 350 for something easier.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,604 ✭✭✭crossman47


    is_that_so wrote: »
    That headline is largely down to one person naming 25 contacts.

    And that is a real worry. It leads to two conclusions about restrictions. Either (a) remove them all as some people are paying no attention like this person or (b) have stringent penalties. The latter is gone so we must all just take care of ourselves. I will work from home, avoid public transport and shop at quiet times. i will at all times socially distance. I will support restaurants through their take away offerings (many have been excellent).

    That way I hope to keep me and my family safe. The only thing I will really miss is attendance at GAA games but so be it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,393 ✭✭✭ZX7R


    manniot2 wrote: »
    The scale of the job losses being announced internationally is beyond frightening. And its a tip of the iceberg compared to what is coming proportionally in this country. At least, according to the latest propaganda add by RTE and Ryan Tubridy, "you did it for Ireland".

    There was an economist on BBC last night going through each European countries expected contracting and expected grouth, surprisingly eastern European countries are excited to rebound quicker than western European countries,consumer and investment confidence have increased buckling the trend across the rest of Europe since easing or ending of covid restrictions.
    Some of them are expecting to see marginal increase in employment.
    The UK are expecting a mass exodus of eastern Europeans from there shores in the next 12 months,due to the handling of the covid crisis and Brit exit adding to the woes of the UK government who are anticipating the worst recession for them out of all of Europe


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,892 ✭✭✭✭average_runner


    crossman47 wrote: »
    And that is a real worry. It leads to two conclusions about restrictions. Either (a) remove them all as some people are paying no attention like this person or (b) have stringent penalties. The latter is gone so we must all just take care of ourselves. I will work from home, avoid public transport and shop at quiet times. i will at all times socially distance. I will support restaurants through their take away offerings (many have been excellent).

    That way I hope to keep me and my family safe. The only thing I will really miss is attendance at GAA games but so be it.




    In all forms of lief you will get careless people, we can't let them control us either. Its a balancing act for us


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 897 ✭✭✭seamusk84


    Excellent news to start off your day

    Reopening of hairdressers and barbers set to be brought forward to June 29th

    On Wednesday Taoiseach Leo Varadkar said hairdressers could be allowed to reopen earlier than previously planned, and he described as “too slow” the Government’s initial five-phase road map to reopen the country from the coronavirus lockdown by August.

    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/reopening-of-hairdressers-and-barbers-set-to-be-brought-forward-to-june-29th-1.4276398

    Dont be cutting your own hair now, less than 3 weeks left

    Wish they would do the same for pubs not doing food.
    I don't fancy having to reserve my seat and order food for three weeks just so I can have an early evening pint on a Saturday. Silly.


  • Posts: 10,049 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    crossman47 wrote: »
    And that is a real worry. It leads to two conclusions about restrictions. Either (a) remove them all as some people are paying no attention like this person or (b) have stringent penalties. The latter is gone so we must all just take care of ourselves. I will work from home, avoid public transport and shop at quiet times. i will at all times socially distance. I will support restaurants through their take away offerings (many have been excellent).

    That way I hope to keep me and my family safe. The only thing I will really miss is attendance at GAA games but so be it.

    You cannot say what the reason one individual had 25 contacts was. Maybe they were in a healthcare environment and wearing ppe at all times. PPE however does not exclude someone from contact tracing. Or there could be lots of other genuine reasons why they had 25 contacts.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,203 ✭✭✭✭Stark


    is_that_so wrote: »
    That headline is largely down to one person naming 25 contacts.

    Covid-slag.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,627 ✭✭✭Micky 32


    Ruthless

    Aye, the amount of begrudgery in this country is more widespread than the virus itself. That’s what i have learnt from boards.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,135 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    crossman47 wrote: »
    And that is a real worry. It leads to two conclusions about restrictions. Either (a) remove them all as some people are paying no attention like this person or (b) have stringent penalties. The latter is gone so we must all just take care of ourselves. I will work from home, avoid public transport and shop at quiet times. i will at all times socially distance. I will support restaurants through their take away offerings (many have been excellent).

    That way I hope to keep me and my family safe. The only thing I will really miss is attendance at GAA games but so be it.
    25 contacts per se is really not a huge issue with current demand, if they are all followed up and, as they claim, tested.
    I'm inclined to go with this is the current message. That message has been changing and will continue to change as we move through the summer.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,265 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


    Ruthless

    Would you find it more palatable to think the stores closing were already elderly and at the "end of life" stage? Their economic relevance and life cycle was already decreasing before covid.

    I've yet to see a business with no pre-existing underlying conditions fail from covid.


  • Posts: 4,806 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I love how we have started to rewrite history now. Apparently a major recession was inevitable anyways and lots of businesses were on the verge of crashing anyways.

    Of course its not true at all is it? Our economy was booming at the start of the year. We were close to full employment.
    We had money put aside to assist with a hard brexit.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,623 ✭✭✭✭Vicxas


    I love how we have started to rewrite history now. Apparently a major recession was inevitable anyways and lots of businesses were on the verge of crashing anyways.

    Of course its not true at all is it? Our economy was booming at the start of the year. We were close to full employment.
    We had money put aside to assist with a hard brexit.

    Oh yes but the Doomsayers were saying we're going to overheat and would be worse than 2008.

    Everyone has an opinion on these things lately.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,854 ✭✭✭✭silverharp


    on the positive side its not a normal recession where the stock market drops for a year and a half, half built projects are dotted about the place. Half the population have more money now than they did 3 months ago. 2021 is going to be gangbusters , it will sill be horrible for smaller business owners, plenty may go to the wall while at the same time others might be getting loan and rent breaks because the buildings have no other use. Other positives, energy will be cheap, commercial rents will fall, new businesses will be created out of this and older businesses might see new ways of doing things.

    A belief in gender identity involves a level of faith as there is nothing tangible to prove its existence which, as something divorced from the physical body, is similar to the idea of a soul. - Colette Colfer



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,080 ✭✭✭KrustyUCC


    is_that_so wrote: »
    That headline is largely down to one person naming 25 contacts.

    Wow

    Thanks for that

    RTE spending more time on this headline than the continuing fall in admissions to hospital


  • Posts: 10,049 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    silverharp wrote: »
    on the positive side its not a normal recession where the stock market drops for a year and a half, half built projects are dotted about the place. Half the population have more money now than they did 3 months ago. 2021 is going to be gangbusters , it will sill be horrible for smaller business owners, plenty may go to the wall while at the same time others might be getting loan and rent breaks because the buildings have no other use. Other positives, energy will be cheap, commercial rents will fall, new businesses will be created out of this and older businesses might see new ways of doing things.

    Historically pandemics are followed by a boom as the underlying fundamentals are not impacted, and often new opportunities present themselves. For us Medtech is booming


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,384 ✭✭✭✭Hurrache


    acequion wrote: »
    Wow!! Have you just eaten a pile of lemons or something?? Or have you a personal gripe against Ivan Yates. Because based on your vitriolic words, to say that you bitterly hate the man would be an understatement.

    He is a contrarian (to put it mildly) whose method is purely to wind people up, there's absolutely no arguing against that.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,384 ✭✭✭✭Hurrache


    Can you please start to do your homework before you post. These stores were in trouble over 2 years ago, like Debenhams and others.

    But he bolded the statements!

    At this rate there'll only be maybe 1, 2 words in each of his posts that haven't been.


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