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Used Model S vs new Model 3

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    #122
    DrPhilG
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    Exciting, no... Impatient, absolutely.


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    #123
    Black_Knight
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    If the end of 2020 is drawing close, it'd be a pretty stressful month. Several thousand euro in the difference between collecting/importing in 2020 vs 2021.


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    #124
    ELM327
    Registered Users Posts: 21,373 ✭✭✭✭ELM327


    I wouldnt be pressing buy on a UK car in Q4 '20 as it stands I can tell you that.


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    #125
    Black_Knight
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    ELM327 wrote: »
    I wouldnt be pressing buy on a UK car in Q4 '20 as it stands I can tell you that.

    Sure you'd only be selling it in Q1 '21 anyways.


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    #126
    Gforcemurphy
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    ELM327 wrote: »
    I wouldnt be pressing buy on a UK car in Q4 '20 as it stands I can tell you that.

    Is that being ultra cautious or do you think it could genuinely take a good bit longer than a month in some cases? I ask as, on the flip-side, I would also hope to hold out to see if prices drop a bit towards the end of the year.


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    #127
    Gforcemurphy
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    Sorry, probably shouldn’t hijack thread.


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    #128
    [Deleted User]
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    Who does good finance these days ?


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    #129
    unkel
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    DrPhilG wrote: »
    No an X isn't an option. Even I'd find that too big to drive.

    I wasn't sure so I looked it up. The Model X is only a little bit longer, but it is over 10cm wider. And that's a lot coming from an already very wide Model S.

    Model S - 196cm
    Model X - 207cm
    Cybertruck - 208cm
    Hummer - 220cm

    For reference, a BMW 7-series and a Mercedes S-class are substantially narrower than a Model S, both at 190cm and an Audi A8 or Lexus LS460 are far narrower than that again


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    #130
    markpb
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    DrPhilG wrote: »
    No an X isn't an option. Even I'd find that too big to drive.
    unkel wrote: »
    I wasn't sure so I looked it up. The Model X is only a little bit longer, but it is over 10cm wider. And that's a lot coming from an already very wide Model S.

    Can confirm, the X is a boat. I'm trying to break it to my wife gently that shopping centres with multi-story car parks are not going to be a feature of our lives for a while. I genuinely thought I was going to beach it in Fleet St car park last time.


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    #131
    unkel
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    The good thing is that if your missus is used to the Model X, you can confidently get a Cybertruck next :p


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    #132
    Gforcemurphy
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    markpb wrote: »
    Can confirm, the X is a boat. I'm trying to break it to my wife gently that shopping centres with multi-story car parks are not going to be a feature of our lives for a while. I genuinely thought I was going to beach it in Fleet St car park last time.

    Trying to figure out how much of that is in jest. Are you really going to have to swerve multi-story car parks? Size is one thing, but what about the doors?


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    #133
    unkel
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    Some multi-stories in Dublin in the Model S will be problematic. And I'm used to big cars. I don't think I would even try the tighter ones in a Model X.


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    #134
    DrPhilG
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    I'd tackle a multi storey in an S. Actually my first ever drive in a Model S was in one, that's where I collected it. Nerve wracking I must admit.

    But my wife would never dare.


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    #135
    markpb
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    Gforcemurphy wrote: »
    Trying to figure out how much of that is in jest. Are you really going to have to swerve multi-story car parks? Size is one thing, but what about the doors?

    Only partly joking :) I've never had a problem fitting in a space or getting the doors opened (although some spaces can be totally consumed by the width of the X) but I find some ramps and bends can be tricky to navigate. For me, that's a factor of both the width and ride height of the car. I've never driven a CUV/SUV before so I'm more comfortable with saloons and their height. Judging where the horrible concrete plinths are waiting to savage your wheels as you go up a ramp and round a corner at the same time can be tricky. It'll come with experience.

    Despite the plethora of sensors around the vehicle, they're basically useless in narrow conditions. Reverse into a parking space at a 45 degree angle and you'd swear you were about to drive into a wall at full speed. On the other hand, drive between two narrow concrete plinths and not a dicky bird out of it.


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    #136
    ELM327
    Registered Users Posts: 21,373 ✭✭✭✭ELM327


    Black_Knight wrote: »
    Sure you'd only be selling it in Q1 '21 anyways.
    :D
    Gforcemurphy wrote: »
    Is that being ultra cautious or do you think it could genuinely take a good bit longer than a month in some cases? I ask as, on the flip-side, I would also hope to hold out to see if prices drop a bit towards the end of the year.
    No it's being genuine.
    My order took over a month and that was with me emailing and phoning lots to push it
    DrPhilG wrote: »
    I'd tackle a multi storey in an S. Actually my first ever drive in a Model S was in one, that's where I collected it. Nerve wracking I must admit.

    But my wife would never dare.
    It's a task, the steering lock is crap and the car is wide. Even my local one (navan shopping centre) is a mini struggle. I'll never forget taking the loaner S I had to the point theater carpark though. That was a struggle. Can only imagine it in an x. And I've driven fullsize american pickups.


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    #137
    unkel
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    Took my S through a tight McDonalds drive thru last week. I was pretty confident I was fine, but I know I didn't have more than about a few cm on either side in a tight bend. And the car was going bananas with the PDC beeping. I don't want to be sexist, but I'd say the missus would not have enjoyed that experience. I'd say the S can do all the Dublin multi-stories. But some of them will be very tight like that in some of the bends at the end of on / off ramps. Also perpendicular park in the likes of shopping centres and you will have to be careful opening the doors. But I guess that's the norm even in modest size cars now. The parking spaces are made for the tiny cars we had in the 60s / 70s


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    #138
    slave1
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    unkel wrote: »
    ... The parking spaces are made for the tiny cars we had in the 60s / 70s to maximise revenue stream

    FYP, sure same in the States

    My stuff for sale on Adverts inc. outdoor furniture, roof box and EDDI

    My Active Ads (adverts.ie)



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    #139
    unkel
    Registered Users Posts: 64,793 ✭✭✭✭unkel


    No not sure same in the States. Parking spaces there are much bigger!

    But I guess they could be based on the cars they had in the 60s / 70s too :p

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    #140
    ELM327
    Registered Users Posts: 21,373 ✭✭✭✭ELM327


    slave1 wrote: »
    FYP, sure same in the States
    No, there's a good difference in the states, the sizes of both standard road width and standard carpark space width are wider.
    You can easily fit a ford F350 pickup into a multi storey in the US.
    You can barely fit them between some road lines here.


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    #141
    Teslafan
    Registered Users Posts: 5 ✭Teslafan


    Hi All,

    Recently I put up a thread on the original S forum (now locked) to say I had a Model S for sale. 182 75D Premium 20KM. Private seller.

    I don't want to bore you with too many details as I know this isn't cars for sale thread and against boards rules, pm me if interested.


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    #142
    Black_Knight
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    Teslafan wrote: »
    Hi All,

    Recently I put up a thread on the original S forum (now locked) to say I had a Model S for sale. 182 75D Premium 20KM. Private seller.

    I don't want to bore you with too many details as I know this isn't cars for sale thread and against boards rules, pm me if interested.

    There's a thread here for that:
    https://touch.boards.ie/thread/2057599743/64/

    You could bore us with the price and some pics there.


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    #143
    unkel
    Registered Users Posts: 64,793 ✭✭✭✭unkel


    Teslafan wrote: »
    Hi All,

    Recently I put up a thread on the original S forum (now locked) to say I had a Model S for sale. 182 75D Premium 20KM. Private seller.

    I don't want to bore you with too many details as I know this isn't cars for sale thread and against boards rules, pm me if interested.

    Hi Teslafan, and welcome to boards.ie!

    There is a thread in this forum where you can put up your car for sale, it is here:

    Linky


    But seeing as some people reading in here might be interested in your car, what sort of money are you looking for, what options does your car have and why are you selling it?


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    #144
    Teslafan
    Registered Users Posts: 5 ✭Teslafan


    60K ish, not decided, EAP, security package, half leather, high fidelity audio, premium package. Blue, Dark Ash, Air Suspension, Great car in as new condition @ good price...


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    #145
    jhegarty
    Registered Users Posts: 6,434 ✭✭✭jhegarty


    Teslafan wrote: »
    60K ish, not decided, EAP, security package, half leather, high fidelity audio, premium package. Blue, Dark Ash, Air Suspension, Great car in as new condition @ good price...

    That's a good price. Out of my budget , but good luck with the sale.


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    #146
    unkel
    Registered Users Posts: 64,793 ✭✭✭✭unkel


    Decent price. I take it that's HW2.5? What Tesla warranty is left? GLWS.

    What's the reason for sale if I my ask?


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    #147
    ELM327
    Registered Users Posts: 21,373 ✭✭✭✭ELM327


    Yes, fair enough price, a different buyer to those looking at used S vs new 3 at that price though.
    HW2 / 2.5 and possible FSD would be a great to have.


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    #148
    Teslafan
    Registered Users Posts: 5 ✭Teslafan


    unkel wrote: »
    Decent price. I take it that's HW2.5? What Tesla warranty is left? GLWS.

    What's the reason for sale if I my ask?

    Its Sep '18 so HW 2.5. It's not being used at all, I'm a home worker and its just sitting there.


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    #149
    DrPhilG
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    PCP quote for an e-Niro, €5k down, €600 x 36, final value €14,998.

    With a cash price of €40,995 that seems like a good price, no? Only €600 for the finance basically.

    Awaiting a trade in value to see if it would be worth parting with the i3 through them.


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    #150
    ELM327
    Registered Users Posts: 21,373 ✭✭✭✭ELM327


    Teslafan wrote: »
    It's not being used at all, I'm a home worker and its just sitting there.
    Same for myself (and I reached a similar conclusion)
    We've been told off the record that our jobs are likely to remain as WFH optional indefinitely. With that, I don't need a long range EV anymore.
    DrPhilG wrote: »
    PCP quote for an e-Niro, €5k down, €600 x 36, final value €14,998.

    With a cash price of €40,995 that seems like a good price, no? Only €600 for the finance basically.

    Awaiting a trade in value to see if it would be worth parting with the i3 through them.


    That's a pretty good deal if the eniro suits your needs and you don't have an inherent need to drink the musk kool aid. Out of the triplets (niro/kona/soul) I think the eniro is the most practical.


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    #151
    DrPhilG
    Registered Users Posts: 12,199 ✭✭✭✭DrPhilG


    ELM327 wrote: »
    That's a pretty good deal if the eniro suits your needs and you don't have an inherent need to drink the musk kool aid. Out of the triplets (niro/kona/soul) I think the eniro is the most practical.

    It does meet my needs, even with my heavy foot I should get about 300km worst case, and 350-400km in more normal circumstances.

    However the question you just answered elsewhere might actually be a deal breaker. Not being able to change from km to miles. Ridiculous as it may sound, I grew up on miles and I still think in miles. Do most of my driving in the North too, so still on miles.

    I don't want a car with only km on the display. If I can't change it, it's a dead duck.


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