Big Brand names whose products are way overrated

EmmetSpiceland · 03-06-2020 08:44PM

Feisar wrote: »

It was me that used the term "domed head" to explain the head sitting slightly proud of the top of the glass.

Sorry, I know what it means, just didn’t know if one could be achieved in a “one pour” pint.

It’s always sad when you get one with a “concave” top.

A mate of mine always said that if you can tilt the glass slightly and have the head stay on the level it was a sign of a “good” pint.

Capt'n Midnight · 03-06-2020 08:57PM

Tiredalways wrote: »

Being bought by mondelez ruined them. But ive discovered german chocolate from lidl/aldi is the business. Delicious and creamy and praline is a joy to behold

Dairyfine is nowhere near as nice as the old Cadbury's chocolate.

Then again neither is the new Cadbury's chocolate. It's no longer a product worth paying a premium for.

Hotblack Desiato · 04-06-2020 05:08PM

irish_goat wrote: »

Whatever about the two part pour, Diageo's stout has to be the wateriest and blandest on the market.

That's why people like it.

Same goes in the lager market.

JohnnyFlash · 04-06-2020 05:12PM

Hotblack Desiato wrote: »

That's why people like it.

Same goes in the lager market.

You can throw 10 pints of Guinness down the hatch without a bother. If you did that with 10 pints of Brewers Balls Imperial Russian Stout then you’d be in a coma.

kingtiger · 04-06-2020 05:44PM

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts wrote: »

I've heard that the two part pour is bullshit. Is it?

Guinness replaced their traditional wooden casks with nitrogen metal kegs in the 50s therefore ending the need for the two pint pour.

So as part of their advertising campaign at the time the regular Guinness drinkers needed to be reassured that the new stout was just as he same as the cask version, so the two part pour was enshrined into a new myth

Give me a large bottle of stout without nitrogen any day

04-06-2020 05:49PM

kingtiger wrote: »

Guinness replaced their traditional wooden casks with nitrogen metal kegs in the 50s therefore ending the need for the two pint pour.

So as part of their advertising campaign at the time the regular Guinness drinkers needed to be reassured that the new stout was just as he same as the cask version, so the two part pour was enshrined into a new myth

Give me a large bottle of stout without nitrogen any day

Stout from a bottle is only suitable for going into a stew.

Creamy delicious Guinness draught is the stuff of legend. I’d pay 50 euro a pint for a feed of them at this stage!

Feisar · 04-06-2020 05:53PM

kingtiger wrote: »

Guinness replaced their traditional wooden casks with nitrogen metal kegs in the 50s therefore ending the need for the two pint pour.

So as part of their advertising campaign at the time the regular Guinness drinkers needed to be reassured that the new stout was just as he same as the cask version, so the two part pour was enshrined into a new myth

Give me a large bottle of stout without nitrogen any day

Off the shelf, hard to beat, my drink of choice.

kingtiger · 04-06-2020 06:02PM

Feisar wrote: »

Off the shelf, hard to beat, my drink of choice.

a man after my own heart

Esel · 04-06-2020 07:21PM

Large bottle off the shelf - your only man.

Hotblack Desiato · 04-06-2020 07:22PM

Paris Skinny Wallpaper wrote: »

Stout from a bottle is only suitable for going into a stew.

A far superior drink to draught, but that's just my opinion.

Creamy delicious Guinness draught is the stuff of legend. I’d pay 50 euro a pint for a feed of them at this stage!

The *EXACT* same product was available in your local supermarket last weekend for the equivalent of about 1.50 a pint.

05-06-2020 09:45AM

Hotblack Desiato wrote: »

The *EXACT* same product was available in your local supermarket last weekend for the equivalent of about 1.50 a pint.

Unless your local supermarket had a Guinness tap, gas line and cooler then no it wasn’t and even then would probably be bad pints compared to a pub known for good Guinness. Guinness out of a tap in a pub that does good Guinness is a completely different drink to anything from a bottle or can. It’s so much better it’s not even possible to compare.

Ush1 · 05-06-2020 10:28AM

Stout is supposed to be room temperature.

I like Guinness but it's not proper stout, especially when it's chilled. It's a watery mass produced one that is easy to drink. Same as most stuff out there.

kingtiger · 05-06-2020 11:32AM

Ush1 wrote: »

Stout is supposed to be room temperature.

I like Guinness but it's not proper stout, especially when it's chilled. It's a watery mass produced one that is easy to drink. Same as most stuff out there.

indeed, I too was a Guinness drinker upto a few years ago, until I tried a homebrew chocolate stout and then my tastebuds completely changed

I would still drink the odd bottle off the shelf but now I just find Guinness watery and bland

its like the Budweiser of Stout

cj maxx · 05-06-2020 12:13PM

Fairy liquid .
They used to have it as a selling point that you didn't need as much as other brands but it's the exact same now

05-06-2020 12:15PM

Ush1 wrote: »

Stout is supposed to be room temperature.

I like Guinness but it's not proper stout, especially when it's chilled. It's a watery mass produced one that is easy to drink. Same as most stuff out there.

Even Guinness is red rotten at room temperate, has to be chilled like any other beer.

cj maxx · 05-06-2020 12:27PM

Paris Skinny Wallpaper wrote: »

Even Guinness is red rotten at room temperate, has to be chilled like any other beer.

Yeah but some pubs take chilling beer too far. Chilled yes but some places it's too cold to drink

EmmetSpiceland · 05-06-2020 12:32PM

Paris Skinny Wallpaper wrote: »

Even Guinness is red rotten at room temperate, has to be chilled like any other beer.

I assume he’s talking about the “old style” bottled stout. The one that, not only, gives you Guinness farts but also manages to taste like Guinness farts.

Saul88 · 05-06-2020 12:51PM

Paris Skinny Wallpaper wrote: »

Unless your local supermarket had a Guinness tap, gas line and cooler then no it wasn’t and even then would probably be bad pints compared to a pub known for good Guinness. Guinness out of a tap in a pub that does good Guinness is a completely different drink to anything from a bottle or can. It’s so much better it’s not even possible to compare.

So you think Guinness sloshing around in the back of a van as it goes from stop to stop is going to be that much better than out if a can?

At least with a can you can put it in the fridge and let it rest for a day or two.

05-06-2020 12:57PM

cj maxx wrote: »

Yeah but some pubs take chilling beer too far. Chilled yes but some places it's too cold to drink

Agreed, it is too cold in many places but the type of place that’s it’s too cold it’s probably needed to make it drinkable!

Saul88 wrote: »

So you think Guinness sloshing around in the back of a van as it goes from stop to stop is going to be that much better than out if a can?

At least with a can you can put it in the fridge and let it rest for a day or two.

I wouldn’t pay much for a pint out of the back of a van, fully agreed it would be poor fare. I meant getting proper pints from a pub.

stratowide · 05-06-2020 01:05PM

It's been years since I've been drinking Guinness.

But when I was a pint from the tap in a pub was the only way to drink it.
Two pours to get the head right.Slightly cooled.

Bottles and cans of it were pure pisch in my opinion.

Dunno maybe they've upped the taste since.

Hotblack Desiato · 05-06-2020 04:04PM

Paris Skinny Wallpaper wrote: »

Unless your local supermarket had a Guinness tap, gas line and cooler then no it wasn’t and even then would probably be bad pints compared to a pub known for good Guinness. Guinness out of a tap in a pub that does good Guinness is a completely different drink to anything from a bottle or can. It’s so much better it’s not even possible to compare.

There is no chance you could tell the difference in a blind taste test. No chance whatsoever.

mehico · 05-06-2020 04:13PM

cj maxx wrote: »

Yeah but some pubs take chilling beer too far. Chilled yes but some places it's too cold to drink

I'm not sure if it is still available but there used to be an extra cold version of Guinness available in some pubs.

05-06-2020 04:26PM

Hotblack Desiato wrote: »

There is no chance you could tell the difference in a blind taste test. No chance whatsoever.

Between a can of Guinness and draught Guinness? Are you joking? It would be as different to me as if you gave me a pint of coke and a pint of milk and claimed I couldn’t tell the difference. There is absolutely no comparison in taste or texture between a can of Guinness and a pint of Guinness on draught.

To be honest I would tell you by looking at them and by smelling them before ever tasting.

EmmetSpiceland · 05-06-2020 04:44PM

Canned Guinness has come on a long way but they are still, at best, a “bad pint” of Guinness.

There is, literally, no comparison with a “proper” pint of, tap pulled, draught. None.

05-06-2020 04:47PM

EmmetSpiceland wrote: »

Canned Guinness has come on a long way but they are still, at best, a “bad pint” of Guinness.

There is, literally, no comparison with a “proper” pint of, tap pulled, draught. None.

Cans of Guinness are ok, the best thing they have is consistency which you dont get from one pub to the next with draught.

I'll nearly always have cans of Guinness in the house and tip away at them but my weekly beer shopping will be mostly IPA as I much prefer an IPA from a bottle than Guinness from a can. My current favourite is The Journeyman IPA from supervalue (blue and red) I couldn't put a number on how many of those I've drank over the last few months with the pubs closed. Nearly time to pack in work and open one actually!

JohnnyFlash · 05-06-2020 04:50PM

Paris Skinny Wallpaper wrote: »

Cans of Guinness are ok, the best thing they have is consistency which you dont get from one pub to the next with draught.

I'll nearly always have cans of Guinness in the house and tip away at them but my weekly beer shopping will be mostly IPA as I much prefer an IPA from a bottle than Guinness from a can.

Same as myself Nox, even though I find too many pale ales to be a bit tough on the lower digestive system.

Find O’Hara’s red ale to be a very tasty drop, and you can put away a good skelp of them without feeling too ropey the next day.

c.p.w.g.w · 05-06-2020 04:52PM

EmmetSpiceland wrote: »

Canned Guinness has come on a long way but they are still, at best, a “bad pint” of Guinness.

There is, literally, no comparison with a “proper” pint of, tap pulled, draught. None.

Paris Skinny Wallpaper wrote: »

Between a can of Guinness and draught Guinness? Are you joking? It would be as different to me as if you gave me a pint of coke and a pint of milk and claimed I couldn’t tell the difference. There is absolutely no comparison in taste or texture between a can of Guinness and a pint of Guinness on draught.

To be honest I would tell you by looking at them and by smelling them before ever tasting.

Its funny you say that...

My buddy ran a pub a few years back, all the regular Guinness drinkers were saying they could tell the difference between a can/draught etc

So one night before it got busy, they did a blind taste test(with 3 of these lads)...they all said that they were tricked, as both pints they tasted were from the tap...both pints were from cans...

Sultan of Bling · 05-06-2020 04:52PM

mehico wrote:

I'm not sure if it is still available but there used to be an extra cold version of Guinness available in some pubs.

It's gone a long time. Don't think it did well sales wise but have to admit I did actually like it.

Sacrilege, I know!

c.p.w.g.w · 05-06-2020 04:58PM

JohnnyFlash wrote: »

Same as myself Nox, even though I find too many pale ales to be a bit tough on the lower digestive system.

Find O’Hara’s red ale to be a very tasty drop, and you can put away a good skelp of them without feeling too ropey the next day.

one thing i have found with IPA's is Cascade Hops...Some IPA's seem to have a good blend...But some are loaded with Cascade Hops and i just find the flavour unpalatable...

Galway Hooker & Proper Job seem to both use Cascade, but for me the Proper Job has too much of it...

EmmetSpiceland · 05-06-2020 05:02PM

c.p.w.g.w wrote: »

Its funny you say that...

My buddy ran a pub a few years back, all the regular Guinness were saying they could tell the difference between a can/draught etc

So one night before it got busy, they did a blind taste test(with 3 of these lads)...they all said that they were tricked, as both pints they tasted were from the tap...both pints were from cans...

Find that very surprising. I drink canned Guinness the odd time but it’s never, ever, been anywhere near the “pub pulled” version.

Even the look of it, the bubbles in the head.

I don’t mean to cash “aspersions” but is it possible that the pints in that pub are muck? Maybe the “lines” have been neglected for awhile?

The only time draught Guinness would come close to canned is when you’re in some hotel “function room” that, probably, hasn’t been used in months.

Big Brand names whose products are way overrated

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