Big Brand names whose products are way overrated

irish_goat

Whatever about the two part pour, Diageo's stout has to be the wateriest and blandest on the market.

Feisar

Paris Skinny Wallpaper wrote: »

I would massively disagree. There is no better drink on this planet than a top class pint of Guinness, absolute bainne!! While I don't mind the IPAs etc Ive been tearing into during lockdown and a few cans of Guinness also there is just nothing to even come close to a good pint of Guinness on draught.

As for the two part pour, there is not doubt you get a better pint with it than with a single pour with a crap head etc. I wouldn't accept a pint that was poured in a single go, have refused pints abroad for it and instructed the bar people on how to do it properly.

While I have drank my fair share of Guinness in my time if I'm being honest with myself it's a fairly unremarkable stout.

Feisar

irish_goat wrote: »

Whatever about the two part pour, Diageo's stout has to be the wateriest and blandest on the market.

Get a pint of Wrasslers XXXX, you'd nearly need a spoon to dig it out of the glass!

HopsAndJumps

Feisar wrote: »

Get a pint of Wrasslers XXXX, you'd nearly need a spoon to dig it out of the glass!

Wrasslers! Now that's a good Irish stout.

Guinness has gotten colder and less bitter over the years, to make it easier to drink so it can compete with the lagers. There is nothing wrong with Guinness, it's fine for what it is.

Just like there is nothing wrong with McDonalds, a big Mac doesn't taste bad, its just very bland and salty. It appeals to the masses.

the beer revolu

the beer revolu wrote: »

You really are such a brand bunny, Nox.
Marketing people adore people like you.

I love the stuff it’s nothing to do with brand loyalty, I don’t particularly like any other stout most are undrinkable imo. The only other stout that I’d drink is porterhouse plain aside from that if Guinness isn’t available or I know it’s bad in a particularly pub I’ll drink an IPA or cider, I’d even go for a larger before other stouts.

the beer revolu

Paris Skinny Wallpaper wrote: »

I love the stuff it’s nothing to do with brand loyalty, I don’t particularly like any other stout most are undrinkable imo. The only other stout that I’d drink is porterhouse plain aside from that if Guinness isn’t available or I know it’s bad in a particularly pub I’ll drink an IPA or cider, I’d even go for a larger before other stouts.

Yup, a brand bunny.

murpho999

Capt'n Midnight wrote: »

Only 88% of Excel files have mistakes.



I still have muscle memory for Ctrl KB KK KC KV from older easier to use word processors. And it's way faster than using a mouse.

And don't get me started on Office's "hide rarely used features so you'll never ever find them" default.

So one article on the internet means that Excel is over rated.

Anyhow, I think it's a great product.

Also not many people realise that often their work licence for Office permits home use for Office.

Depending on the licence that your work has just login with your work Outlook details and off you go, all legit and you get the full office suite rather than the home version.

the beer revolu

the beer revolu wrote: »

Yup, a brand bunny.

Nonsense. How is it being a brand bunny when I choose the product which I like the taste of? I’ve tried plenty of stouts and most I wouldn’t give to the dog, any stout from a bottle is horrible too. Draught is the only way, cans of Guinness are drinkable but not a patch on draught.

CrankyHaus

Whatever about Guinness, a perfectly fine mass-market stout, the amount of big brand names in spirits that are utter manure is shocking.

Think of the go-to drink for many spirits and they're either total muck or entirely bland:
Smirnoff Vodka
Gordons Gin
Bacardi Rum (or god help us Captain Morgans)
Jack Daniels Whiskey (or Jim Bean, or Johnnie Walker, even basic level Jameson isn't as good as Teelings and arguably Bushmills and Powers IMO)

There are usually better alternatives for the same price but they just don't have the marketing behind them.

secondrowgal

Jesus! Enough about the Guinness already! Open a new thread!

Hershey's chocolate is my contribution.

L1011

CrankyHaus wrote: »

Whatever about Guinness, a perfectly fine mass-market stout, the amount of big brand names in spirits that are utter manure is shocking.

Think of the go-to drink for many spirits and they're either total muck or entirely bland:
Smirnoff Vodka
Gordons Gin
Bacardi Rum (or god help us Captain Morgans)
Jack Daniels Whiskey (or Jim Bean, or Johnnie Walker, even basic level Jameson isn't as good as Teelings and arguably Bushmills and Powers IMO)

There are usually better alternatives for the same price but they just don't have the marketing behind them.

If you think Gordons is bad, remember the absolute pisswater that's usually sold if you don't specify a gin in a bar - Cork Dry.

My local used Boru vodka as its default for years and there were people who'd order Smirnoff by name despite them being comparable at least; Boru possibly a tad better.

CrankyHaus

L1011 wrote: »

If you think Gordons is bad, remember the absolute pisswater that's usually sold if you don't specify a gin in a bar - Cork Dry.

My local used Boru vodka as its default for years and there were people who'd order Smirnoff by name despite them being comparable at least; Boru possibly a tad better.

For the price point I actually quite like Cork Dry, all a matter of taste I suppose.


I agree about Boru, people asking for Smirnoff by name is madness, pure marketing.

Randy Archer

Hotblack Desiato wrote: »

Totally agree, Burger King is streets ahead of McDonald's on quality and value, still dear enough for what you get though.

Kiosk ordering in McD's is brilliant however, especially with the kids in tow.

I like KFC but my local one always fcuks up / delays orders and they don't change the oil often enough so it can taste a bit rank.

Yep, Burger King burger , fills ya up . Always get chips but chips are glorious and BK chips arent to bad. Never digged McDonalds . The king was always better than Bosco’s big brother anyway

Though to be fair to McDonald’s, weren’t they the first to do something like the McFlurry ? Yum .

Has anyone noticed that the old reliable Supermacs has (a) kinda gone to ****e and (b) got really pricey ?

Randy Archer

gormdubhgorm wrote: »

I watched the netflix documentary on the Chicago Bulls - the last dance.
It was good but very 'Michael Jordan centric.'
I am not really into basketball - was a casual watcher of CH4 NBA in the 90's.

But then I realised that Michael Jordan is still churning out those runners which are made in China and sold for inflated prices - he has some neck on him.

Plus the consumers of those runners clearly only still purchase them, because of the Jordan brand name. Fools and thier money are easily parted. Has to be one of the most overrated brands? Jordan shoes

People use to beat the living ****e out of each Queing up to get a pair or robbing people who wore a pair

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts

Paris Skinny Wallpaper wrote: »

I would massively disagree. There is no better drink on this planet than a top class pint of Guinness, absolute bainne!! While I don't mind the IPAs etc Ive been tearing into during lockdown and a few cans of Guinness also there is just nothing to even come close to a good pint of Guinness on draught.

As for the two part pour, there is not doubt you get a better pint with it than with a single pour with a crap head etc. I wouldn't accept a pint that was poured in a single go, have refused pints abroad for it and instructed the bar people on how to do it properly.

That must have been fascinating for them.

I don't drink stout myself so can't make any judgement but I've heard that the two part pour is bullshit. Is it?

Tiredalways

ACitizenErased wrote: »

Cadburys 10000000%. Muck.

Being bought by mondelez ruined them. But ive discovered german chocolate from lidl/aldi is the business. Delicious and creamy and praline is a joy to behold

CrankyHaus

CrankyHaus wrote: »

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Think of the go-to drink for many spirits and they're either total muck or entirely bland:
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Jack Daniels Whiskey (or Jim Bean, or Johnnie Walker, even basic level Jameson isn't as good as Teelings and arguably Bushmills and Powers IMO)

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Any whiskey not triple distilled is going to be poor compared to a TD option.

Randy Archer wrote: »

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Has anyone noticed that the old reliable Supermacs has (a) kinda gone to ****e and (b) got really pricey ?

Scaled up from the original offering so it's lost something.... Likely quality. All the warehousing & couriers need to be paid.

the beer revolu

Augeo wrote: »

Any whiskey not triple distilled is going to be poor compared to a TD option..

So, are you trying to suggest that the majority Scottish whisky is poor compared to the majority of Irish whiskey?

That's a pretty insane claim to make.

Feisar

the beer revolu wrote: »

So, are you trying to suggest that the majority Scottish whisky is poor compared to the majority of Irish whiskey?

That's a pretty insane claim to make.

No, that's a pretty sane conclusion.

One caveat: I hate Scotch!

Adyx

Feisar wrote: »

No, that's a pretty sane conclusion.

One caveat: I hate Scotch!

I used to hate Scotch, but then I realised there's such a variety it's impossible to lump them altogether. So now I might not like one type but I certainly can't say I hate all Scotch.

Aongus Von Bismarck

Scotch whisky is a far more interesting, varied, and rounded drink than Irish whiskey. I realise there are exceptions to that, but most Irish whiskey lacks character. It's the sort of stuff made so people can mix it with coke or ginger ale after they've had enough pints of mass produced beer.

Iscreamkone

Aongus Von Bismarck wrote: »

Scotch whisky is a far more interesting, varied, and rounded drink than Irish whiskey. I realise there are exceptions to that, but most Irish whiskey lacks character. It's the sort of stuff made so people can mix it with coke or ginger ale after they've had enough pints of mass produced beer.

That’s Paddy for you. Only for rubbing on your legs before a match
Jamie 12 or Bushmills is a different class altogether

odyssey06

CrankyHaus wrote: »

Whatever about Guinness, a perfectly fine mass-market stout, the amount of big brand names in spirits that are utter manure is shocking.

Think of the go-to drink for many spirits and they're either total muck or entirely bland:
Smirnoff Vodka
Gordons Gin
Bacardi Rum (or god help us Captain Morgans)
Jack Daniels Whiskey (or Jim Bean, or Johnnie Walker, even basic level Jameson isn't as good as Teelings and arguably Bushmills and Powers IMO)

There are usually better alternatives for the same price but they just don't have the marketing behind them.

I think you've lost the run of yourself there!
Teelings is priced much higher than basic Jameson, and Teelings Small Batch versus Jameson Crested would be a close call for me.

Basic level Jameson I would rate over basic Bushmills, and is a fine product.
No way is it bland or manure adjacent or can it be used to make a negative case about brands.


Powers is a quality whiskey but that's more in the category of underrated gem, I don't think it's quality says anything negative about Jameson or can be used to make a case that Jameson is overrated. It's qualities are less obvious shall we say. I would drink a lot more Jameson (straight or mixed) than Powers.
Powers and Jameson are actually the same ultimate brand after all...
It's a combination of marketing and also Jameson as a product has more mass market appeal.

the beer revolu

the beer revolu wrote: »

So, are you trying to suggest that the majority Scottish whisky is poor compared to the majority of Irish whiskey?

That's a pretty insane claim to make.

Unless you are talking single malts.
Also, it was the American brands I quoted iirc.

Wompa1

JohnnyFlash wrote: »

It's worth paying a premium for Apple devices because they are the last major tech company who still give half a damn about personal privacy. It's the tech equivalent of the overton window.

I mean, the fappening was via vulnerability in iCloud. They lost a court case in the EU with the original iPods due to restricting access to your own music files. In the last 18 months alone they had bugs in macOS that left the root account wide open and another that exposed the disk encryption key (if the owner encrypted the drive).

Worst of all, their response to these types of issues is slooooooooooooow!

BUT I don't think they should be on the list for one of the most overrated. The iPhone maybe. iPad maybe. Macs, nah. Apple's software, probably.

For me overrated brand: Mercedez, Tommy Hilfiger and Beats,

EmmetSpiceland

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts wrote: »

I don't drink stout myself so can't make any judgement but I've heard that the two part pour is bullshit. Is it?

It make no difference to the taste whatsoever. It’s akin to someone saying they can taste the difference between a stirred and a shaken martini.

The whole “domed” head is a new one on me, I don’t remember checking on any “one pour” pints I’d pulled for myself, or has pulled for me.

The real “issue” with the “one pour” is that the bar server could be clueless and end up giving you half a pint of “head”. But, in the right hands, the “two part pour” is unnecessary, except for ceremony.

Suckit

JohnnyFlash wrote: »

It's worth paying a premium for Apple devices because they are the last major tech company who still give half a damn about personal privacy. It's the tech equivalent of the overton window.

Apple do not give half a damn about personal privacy.

odyssey06

EmmetSpiceland wrote: »

It make no difference to the taste whatsoever. It’s akin to someone saying they can taste the difference between a stirred and a shaken martini.
The whole “domed” head is a new one on me, I don’t remember checking on any “one pour” pints I’d pulled for myself, or has pulled for me.
The real “issue” with the “one pour” is that the bar server could be clueless and end up giving you half a pint of “head”. But, in the right hands, the “two part pour” is unnecessary, except for ceremony.

Not contradicting any of your post - just mentioning that there is a "je ne sais quoi" aspect to the experience whch should not be written off.

EmmetSpiceland

odyssey06 wrote: »

Not contradicting any of your post - just mentioning that there is a "je ne sais quoi" aspect to the experience whch should not be written off.

There is that.

If I was at a bar and was handed a “straight pour” it would be viewed with extreme suspicion.

The only time it should ever be pulled in one go is on request.

Feisar

EmmetSpiceland wrote: »

It make no difference to the taste whatsoever. It’s akin to someone saying they can taste the difference between a stirred and a shaken martini.

The whole “domed” head is a new one on me, I don’t remember checking on any “one pour” pints I’d pulled for myself, or has pulled for me.

The real “issue” with the “one pour” is that the bar server could be clueless and end up giving you half a pint of “head”. But, in the right hands, the “two part pour” is unnecessary, except for ceremony.

It was me that used the term "domed head" to explain the head sitting slightly proud of the top of the glass.