Relaxation of Restrictions, Part IV - Read OP for Mod Warnings

03-06-2020 03:41PM

Ginger n Lemon wrote: »

Sorry, what was expected?

The deficit was not as high as they expected

KrustyUCC · 03-06-2020 03:41PM

Sweet.Science wrote: »

Is Leo talking Friday . Heard a few whispers we are going back to phase 1 . I agree with his stance . Scenes at the weekend were a disgrace

Ha good luck to Leo trying to sell that one lol

Not going to happen and if does more and more people will start ignoring him

03-06-2020 03:43PM

Ginger n Lemon wrote: »

Sorry, what was expected?

This lad in Irish examiner expected deficit of over 3bn. Not bloody 5 bn

"Wednesday, June 03, 2020 - 06:30 AM
New figures will throw new light on the huge costs in supporting the economy and on the long-term pain as more households lose their jobs amid the Covid-19 economic crisis.

Exchequer figures published later today will likely show that a ballooning deficit of over €3bn in May as the €2bn-a-month cost in the pandemic unemployment and wage-support schemes are added to the continuing healthcare costs in fighting the pandemic."

https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/business/corporation-tax-revenues-set-to-be-bright-spot-in-covid-19-economic-crisis-1003059.html

https://www.rte.ie/news/2020/0603/1145219-exchequer-returns-reveal-6-1bn-deficit-in-may/

Corporation tax came in €1.224bn ahead of last year. The Department of Finance puts this down to increased levels of profitability in some companies and a number of 'one off' factors.

The Deparment also notes that the 35.4% decline in VAT, while high, was less than projected. The fall off in income tax was also less than forecast.

Naos · 03-06-2020 03:43PM

Ginger n Lemon wrote: »

You know it.

Not that we should adhere to it because 1 m is safer or less safer, but because the trade of of businesses letting go of 50% of their staff and operating at 30-50% capacity for god knows how long and becoming nonviable is just too much of a trade off.

the 3% vs 13% is covid infection. then you gotta remember severe cases is only 20%, so you quickly arrive at very small numbers that our ICU and empty hospitals would easily be able to handle.

Talking about "yeah but if 4.9m population start to do 1 metre then 13% get infected" etc is waffle but You are a good poster and wont start this waffle i am sure.

Afterall, we are to live with the virus, not to eradicate it. Unless your name is Gerry, then you may just disagree with me.

Ha no I wouldn't, I'm not one for hyperbole. Was just wondering that you were getting at as it had more of a 'pro-lockdown' vibe than an 'anti-lockdown' vibe.. thought you were jumping ship :pac:

polesheep · 03-06-2020 03:46PM

Naos wrote: »

Is this the new "don't assume my gender"?

Do you genuinely think that the Irish approach to drink is the same as the Spanish, German or Belgian approach?

The bit in bold is plain nonsense.
And yes, I've seen as many drunks in Spain, Germany and Belgium as I've seen in Ireland. In my experience alcohol is enjoyed and abused more or less equally all over the western world.

stephenjmcd · 03-06-2020 03:48PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Less than expected due to better than Corporation tax as Medtech sector booms and vat fall was less than expected

They're very cautious around the corporation tax, most of it relates to economic activity from 2019.

https://twitter.com/rtenews/status/1268185112488878083?s=19

fleet_admiral · 03-06-2020 03:50PM

Sweet.Science wrote: »

Is Leo talking Friday . Heard a few whispers we are going back to phase 1 . I agree with his stance . Scenes at the weekend were a disgrace

If that was to happen the entire country will move onto phase 5 with or without leos blessing

stephenjmcd · 03-06-2020 03:50PM

https://twitter.com/jackeparrock/status/1268189187779497986?s=19

Naos · 03-06-2020 03:52PM

jay0109 wrote: »

JYellowL :rolleyes:
What a hero...the protest was Sunday afternoon and 72 hours later he/she come's out with this piece of fluff.

Children making it up as they go along

If I had to hazard a guess.. I'd say they reached out to a lawyer who advised they puts this out to a show a judge they were trying to be responsible / apologetic for their actions.

Speak Now · 03-06-2020 03:52PM

Sweet.Science wrote: »

Is Leo talking Friday . Heard a few whispers we are going back to phase 1 . I agree with his stance . Scenes at the weekend were a disgrace

Zero chance, we've been hearing about weekend scenes with the last 6 weeks and the numbers are still reducing.

end of the road · 03-06-2020 03:52PM

KrustyUCC wrote: »

Exactly

If the VFI said to all members open on June 29th what could the guards or government do?

Very little

they could probably revoke their licenses.
whether they would do so is another thing but i suspect they could do it.
it would actually be a win as lots of us are sick of the VFI and the hold they have over the government in relation to alcohol sales and the ability to stifle competition via the likes of MUP.

Idbatterim wrote: »

The most dangerous virus to the population is varadkar, fg and nphet!

couldn't agree more, some randomers on the internet are who we should be listening to.
especially ones who think rte decide the country's budget.

ixoy · 03-06-2020 03:52PM

Just see that the tweet saying that face masks will be needed in restaurants. Must make eating food awkward...

Utopia Parkway · 03-06-2020 03:54PM

ixoy wrote: »

Just see that the tweet saying that face masks will be needed in restaurants. Must make eating food awkward...

Just get your food blended and you can suck it up through a straw.

Allinall · 03-06-2020 03:55PM

ixoy wrote: »

Just see that the tweet saying that face masks will be needed in restaurants. Must make eating food awkward...

They're going to start making ones with holes in front of the mouth area, to facilitate eating.

RobitTV · 03-06-2020 03:56PM

Some really interesting developments regarding the legal challenge in the UK against the lockdown. £160,000 pound has now been raised.

Update: Things seem to be moving very much in our favour - we keep fighting. Govt have until 12th June to issue full defence

The fight of course, continues. We won't stop until they have been held to account for this illegal lockdown. They have until 12th June to file their defence papers.

Ginger n Lemon · 03-06-2020 03:57PM

ixoy wrote: »

Just see that the tweet saying that face masks will be needed in restaurants. Must make eating food awkward...

Only in Ireland. :rolleyes:

KrustyUCC · 03-06-2020 03:58PM

end of the road wrote: »

they could probably revoke their licenses.
whether they would do so is another thing but i suspect they could do it.
it would actually be a win as lots of us are sick of the VFI and the hold they have over the government in relation to alcohol sales and the ability to stifle competition via the likes of MUP.
.

Could they?

Maybe

Would they revoke all licences?

Not a hope in hell they would

Mantis Toboggan · 03-06-2020 03:59PM

fleet_admiral wrote: »

If that was to happen the entire country will move onto phase 5 with or without leos blessing

Absolutely, the government have made a complete mess of reopening after the lockdown and people have now taken it into their owns hands.

Naos · 03-06-2020 03:59PM

polesheep wrote: »

The bit in bold is plain nonsense.
And yes, I've seen as many drunks in Spain, Germany and Belgium as I've seen in Ireland. In my experience alcohol is enjoyed and abused more or less equally all over the western world.

Let's just agree to disagree.

lukas8888 · 03-06-2020 04:01PM

growleaves wrote: »

Ah, now I see.

The UK has the highest death rate per million.

However if you look at the rolling seven-day average, it is Sweden.

Maybe you could provide a link next time, for clarity?

Yes very selective posting re Sweden.If you look at deaths per million of population since start of virus, Belgium 822,Spain 580,UK 580 Italy 550
Sweden 450.No doubt all can see these numbers but not suiting their selective narrative.

Idbatterim · 03-06-2020 04:06PM

Ginger n Lemon wrote: »

Only in Ireland. :rolleyes:

Fg mates must be able to make a few quid selling masks...

ixoy · 03-06-2020 04:12PM

Ginger n Lemon wrote: »

Only in Ireland. :rolleyes:

Well the Tweet was about Belgium...

Who have the had the highest date rate although they are possibly over-reporting their deaths as Covid-19.

Ginger n Lemon · 03-06-2020 04:15PM

ixoy wrote: »

Well the Tweet was about Belgium...

Who have the had the highest date rate although they are possibly over-reporting their deaths as Covid-19.

Yeah but we should lay low in case Simon Harris reads these forums. Gets ideas :eek:

GeorgeBailey · 03-06-2020 04:22PM

Sweet.Science wrote: »

Is Leo talking Friday . Heard a few whispers we are going back to phase 1 . I agree with his stance . Scenes at the weekend were a disgrace

The whole "I've been hearing whispers" phase was back in March. Your opportunity has long gone I'm afraid.

KrustyUCC · 03-06-2020 04:25PM

ixoy wrote: »

Well the Tweet was about Belgium...

Who have the had the highest date rate although they are possibly over-reporting their deaths as Covid-19.

I imagine it will be very similar to France where you need masks when on the move but not eating or drinking

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.rfi.fr/en/france/20200528-5-things-that-will-change-in-cafes-and-restaurant-under-new-lockdown-rules-in-france

Sweet.Science · 03-06-2020 04:25PM

ixoy wrote: »

Just see that the tweet saying that face masks will be needed in restaurants. Must make eating food awkward...

Reminds me of when the Mother used to tell me to shut my mouth and eat my dinner

VonLuck · 03-06-2020 04:34PM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

For what its worth, not that I pay much attention to these but its something Dr Tony is likely to show this evening. I worry for the 17% who think we're moving too quickly and the 6% who think much too quickly

https://twitter.com/RobOHanrahan/status/1268183609522995203?s=19

I find it interesting how your post was completely ignored. People here seem to be in their own world thinking everyone is out of lockdown mode despite the surveys continually saying otherwise.

iamwhoiam · 03-06-2020 04:41PM

Sweet.Science wrote: »

Reminds me of when the Mother used to tell me to shut my mouth and eat my dinner

And don’t coming running in to me when you break your leg

ixoy · 03-06-2020 04:43PM

KrustyUCC wrote: »

I imagine it will be very similar to France where you need masks when on the move but not eating or drinking

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.rfi.fr/en/france/20200528-5-things-that-will-change-in-cafes-and-restaurant-under-new-lockdown-rules-in-france

Interesting reading and certainly a potential template for here although outdoor eating will be a challenge given our climate and tiny paths.

The 1m distancing thing is crucial enough as well and far more workable than 2m.

03-06-2020 04:46PM

Idbatterim wrote: »

Fg mates must be able to make a few quid selling masks...

Why did you vote for them then, also hey business opportunity.

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Relaxation of Restrictions, Part IV - Read OP for Mod Warnings