Relaxation of Restrictions, Part IV - **Read OP for Mod Warnings**

KrustyUCC wrote: »

Publicans on Joe Duffy saying they will open same time as restaurants

Why would they stay closed when people got away with large March in Dublin

If they can have same social distance as restaurants whats the difference?

Fair play to those publicans

When you see some cafes and delis letting people eat in today because the weather isn't great then it's no surprise. The restrictions are going down the gutter and I'd highly doubt if a fair few of them opened up that they'd be forced to close. That goes for any business by the way if they can implement the guidance then let them open by the end of June.


Like you say if a large protest can happen with no repercussions then it's a free for all really and makes a joke of the whole restrictions on business

Nothing is going to be expedited in these phases - Harris said today he is "hopeful" we can go to bloody phase 2 next week. 6 months time when reality hits home, they will blame the doctors.

KrustyUCC wrote: »

Exactly

If the VFI said to all members open on June 29th what could the guards or government do?

Very little

There's further marches planned for Dublin, Cork and Galway at the weekend

What's Leo and the guards going to do about it?

Those marches have been cancelled.

Organiser of Dublin's George Floyd solidarity march to self-isolate

One of the organisers of a solidarity march in Dublin last Monday over the death of George Floyd has said he is going into self-isolation.

JYellowL is also urging other marchers to do the same, but activists here intend to press ahead with protests this weekend in solidarity with demonstrations in the United States.

That is despite a Garda investigation into alleged breaches of social distancing guidelines after thousands gathered in Dublin on Bank Holiday Monday and marched on the American Embassy in Ballsbridge.

cure is worse than the disease territory now

Sweden with the highest dearg rate pm in the world now.

Admit they would have done things differently if they had the chance.

growleaves wrote: »

Can you post a link to that please.

The really mind boggling thing will be when they count up their deaths for 2020.

2019 deaths was like 92k

Current covid deaths is like 4k?

Boy, what will be our reaction when they report 91k in 2020 deaths? Couldve done better if avoided covid - give me a break.

but anyways this Sweden stuff is way off topic, their unemployment there is like 6-7%. ours is 26-28%. alarm bells anyone?

Our World in Data has UK as higher in deaths per million than Sweden as of Jun 3 (today). Not sure if that's correct or out of date but not seeing any prominent news stories to contradict it.

Assetbacked wrote: »

Painfully dragging businesses through five phases of reopening and arsing about with 2m of social distancing is ridiculous and not feasible unless grants were given to every affected business whereby they could be given the finances to at least cover their costs for the rest of the year.
It is just ridiculous to tell places they can only half open but then they don't get anymore financial support. We need to get to phase five ASAP. At best, phase two next week and then phase five two weeks later.
Fair play to businesses taking their own initiative to get back to work.

What we all have to remember is that this are "Guidelines" only as recommended by medical staff in the HSE, they aren't laws, however because of the lack of political leadership in Ireland they are being followed to the letter.
Business can't bend these guidelines as they could effect insurance cover for claims from staff or customers, and may also lead to closure from the HSE.
Varadkar has specifically said that all businesses can't expect a taxpayer bailout.
So over the next 6 - 8 months more and more businesses who will try and open under the Lockdown/2m law will close their doors permanently, and 2021 will be more like 1981 in terms of employment.

I’ve had two phone calls so far today.
One was from my aesthetician clinic to schedule an appointment for me as they are now open for business and taking in clients as of today, and they weren’t due to open until phase 4.

The other was from my hairdresser, she is currently doing up a staff roster and wanted to know my preferred date for an appointment, she says she expects to be open at the very latest by next Friday.

So either they’ve been told something that hasn’t been announced yet, or they’re reopening of their own accord. Either way I’m not complaining. Leo’s speech on Friday should be interesting.

Screenshot below from the aesthetician clinic confirming their reopening, for anyone who is doubting my claims.

Jinglejangle69 wrote: »

Sweden with the highest dearg rate pm in the world now.

Admit they would have done things differently if they had the chance.

Ah, now I see.

The UK has the highest death rate per million.

However if you look at the rolling seven-day average, it is Sweden.

Maybe you could provide a link next time, for clarity?

growleaves wrote: »

Organiser of Dublin's George Floyd solidarity march to self-isolate
Quote:
One of the organisers of a solidarity march in Dublin last Monday over the death of George Floyd has said he is going into self-isolation.

JYellowL is also urging other marchers to do the same, but activists here intend to press ahead with protests this weekend in solidarity with demonstrations in the United States.

JYellowL :rolleyes:
What a hero...the protest was Sunday afternoon and 72 hours later he/she come's out with this piece of fluff.

Children making it up as they go along

Is Leo talking Friday . Heard a few whispers we are going back to phase 1 . I agree with his stance . Scenes at the weekend were a disgrace

Professor Moriarty wrote: »

Though I'm spattered with froth, I enjoy the warm glow from the rage.

Professor Moriarty wrote: »

So the team won? Yay! Well done!

Professor Moriarty wrote: »

I do enjoy dipping in and reading ill-informed and shallow rants. Usually, they're boring and repetitive but some are laugh out loud. For instance, the idea that clueless rants by posters on this thread are helping businesses and people in despair - is genuinely funny.

Professor Moriarty wrote: »

Would that be faux laughter? Don't be sad.

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