Relaxation of Restrictions, Part III - Read OP for Mod Warnings

Blaze420 · 29-05-2020 06:15PM

39 new cases - remind me again why we plan to wait until ****ing August to open the country up??

is_that_so · 29-05-2020 06:16PM

hamburgham wrote: »

Even Richard Boyd Barrett was making sense this morning, he was saying that he’s been trying without success for two months to get minutes of NPHET meetings.
Always a fan of Michael though, won’t hear a word said against him!

That sounds like a fib. They are available publicly up to 22 May now.

https://www.gov.ie/en/collection/691330-national-public-health-emergency-team-covid-19-coronavirus/

retro:electro · 29-05-2020 06:17PM

TheCitizen wrote: »

Yes we know who IBEC are. Why is it a "blow" to the phased plan. The phased plan is flexible and dependant on the progress in relation to Covid and can be fast tracked. Schools, the rest of the health services, all these factors come into play. We're not waiting on IBEC for a green light.

I wonder about the politics of the whingers that make up the vast majority of "comment" on this thread. I bet they're all Irish National Party types or Gemma Doherty/John Waters types and have next to fck all representation in real Irish politics and society. They've done a great job taking over this thread, sitting indoors with their laptops whining about not being allowed outside :pac:

Wow I’ve never heard this insult being hurled ever before on this thread.

Bet you thought you were so original typing that.

RobitTV · 29-05-2020 06:19PM

You know you have the lost the argument when you start off with the usual Gemma bot and John Waters nonsense. Irish National Party is a new buzzword for the misery merchants to throw around.

TheCitizen · 29-05-2020 06:20PM

retro:electro wrote: »

Wow I’ve never heard this insult being hurled ever before on this thread.

Bet you thought you were so original typing that.

It's hardly an insult, not to you anyway; that is what you are yes?

prunudo · 29-05-2020 06:20PM

Blaze420 wrote: »

39 new cases - remind me again why we plan to wait until ****ing August to open the country up??

But more importantly, where are these cases? If as suspected the majority are in the health care settings then the public are being punished for the their failings.

Jayesdiem · 29-05-2020 06:20PM

Blaze420 wrote: »

39 new cases - remind me again why we plan to wait until ****ing August to open the country up??

Could you imagine the country being shut down because 39 people got the flu? Just incredible. On the list of dangerous infectious diseases, this coronavirus is a mere pussycat and is being treated like the Black Death. Each day I think to myself how this warped alternative reality will magically dissolve and I’ll appear back in the real world where the phrase “new normal” doesn’t exist and people don’t run for cover when you walk the dog.

the kelt · 29-05-2020 06:22PM

TheCitizen wrote: »

Yes we know who IBEC are. Why is it a "blow" to the phased plan. The phased plan is flexible and dependant on the progress in relation to Covid and can be fast tracked. Schools, the rest of the health services, all these factors come into play. We're not waiting on IBEC for a green light.

I wonder about the politics of the whingers that make up the vast majority of "comment" on this thread. I bet they're all Irish National Party types or Gemma Doherty/John Waters types and have next to fck all representation in real Irish politics and society. They've done a great job taking over this thread, sitting indoors with their laptops whining about not being allowed outside :pac:

There ye go, there’s some lateral thought for ye.

If you disagree with the approach of the government over something you must be like someone else who disagreed with the government over something.

I mean there couldn’t be any other logical conclusion to come to!

Simple minds simplify as best they can.

Ginger n Lemon · 29-05-2020 06:22PM

Jayesdiem wrote: »

Could you imagine the country being shut down because 39 people got the flu? Just incredible. On the list of dangerous infectious diseases, this coronavirus is a mere pussycat and is being treated like the Black Death. Each day I think to myself how this warped alternative reality will magically dissolve and I’ll appear back in the real world where the phrase “new normal” doesn’t exist and people don’t run for cover when you walk the dog.

Brilliant

:D:D

Be careful though, if you start comparing covid to flu you will be called Gemma Waters. In fact if you want barbers to reopen before 20th of July you will also be called Gemma Waters.

Blaze420 · 29-05-2020 06:24PM

Jayesdiem wrote: »

Could you imagine the country being shut down because 39 people got the flu? Just incredible. On the list of dangerous infectious diseases, this coronavirus is a mere pussycat and is being treated like the Black Death. Each day I think to myself how this warped alternative reality will magically dissolve and I’ll appear back in the real world where the phrase “new normal” doesn’t exist and people don’t run for cover when you walk the dog.

Absolutely but the media are to blame for most of this as well - reporting on these numbers like it’s the end of the world and convieniently forgetting those figures are out of 4.9 million. Time to cut the **** and for Leo to come out next week and accelerate the whole lot - if he doesn’t, then there is every chance the public will go to stage 5 on their own. This isn’t warranted any longer and being overly cautious to the extent of paralysing the economy is off the table now / open the ****in place up and let us get back to normal.

Stark · 29-05-2020 06:25PM

is_that_so wrote: »

That sounds like a fib. They are available publicly up to 22 May now.

https://www.gov.ie/en/collection/691330-national-public-health-emergency-team-covid-19-coronavirus/

Last minutes are from 8th of May. The thing from the 22nd is just a "hope this finds you well" letter.

TheCitizen · 29-05-2020 06:26PM

RobitTV wrote: »

Ibec must be a 'Gemma/John Waters' supporter. Bet they send staff members to Irish National Party meetings! :eek:

Honestly nobody on this forum wants anything to do with those two people. Why do posters come on here and launch attacks and not debate with those they disagree with?

We want a sensible acceleration of the phased plan, just like Ibec now wants as it happens. They are clearly on the fringes of society :pac:

There is built in flexibility in the plan. There is already built in flexibility in the 1 to 2 metre distancing. The flexibility can now be utilised due to the success of the plan up till now. The panic merchants that have taken over this thread sound like Doherty/Waters types and some of them no doubt are.

is_that_so · 29-05-2020 06:27PM

Stark wrote: »

Last minutes are from 8th of May. The thing from the 22nd is just a "hope this finds you well" letter.

But nowhere near his dramatic "2 months".

Ginger n Lemon · 29-05-2020 06:30PM

TheCitizen wrote: »

There is built in flexibility in the plan. There is already built in flexibility in the 1 to 2 metre distancing. The flexibility can now be utilised due to the success of the plan up till now. The panic merchants that have taken over this thread sound like Doherty/Waters types and some of them no doubt are.

How do you keep calling people names here and get away with it I ll never know.

growleaves · 29-05-2020 06:31PM

There is built in flexibility in the plan.

I've been pointing that out from day one. In fact the framework document says that the plan can be accelerated purely on the basis of economic considerations.

The panic merchants that have taken over this thread sound like Doherty/Waters types and some of them no doubt are.

No one on this thread has floated any conspiracy theories or been obnoxious to guards, which are what O'Doherty is known for. This guilt by association tactic is very tired. If I knew more about you I could connect you to some obnoxious or crazed person who shares your political tendency, no doubt.

TheCitizen · 29-05-2020 06:32PM

the kelt wrote: »

There ye go, there’s some lateral thought for ye.

If you disagree with the approach of the government over something you must be like someone else who disagreed with the government over something.

I mean there couldn’t be any other logical conclusion to come to!

Simple minds simplify as best they can.

I voted SF in the last election. I'm not talking about disagreeing with the government; I'm talking about the shrill nature of the increasing majority of comment on this thread with posters acting the hard threatening to ignore the restrictions and have barbeques going out of their way to ignore the restrictions while drinking Heiniken Light :pac: They sound Like Irish National Party types.

RobitTV · 29-05-2020 06:32PM

Dr Tony Holohan says he is ‘not surprised’ that Ryanair's Michael O’Leary has a concern about quarantine measures for people arriving in Ireland. The CMO says he believes normal airline travel will not return ‘in the near term’.

See you in court Holohan. O'Leary isn't going to back down.

gral6 · 29-05-2020 06:33PM

We are not there yet...numbers are too high... It is only allowed to go to the Phoenix park with your partner half naked and drink beer! Stay home...

TheCitizen · 29-05-2020 06:33PM

Ginger n Lemon wrote: »

How do you keep calling people names here and get away with it I ll never know.

Are you going to shop me in :pac: I'm not calling anyone names, I'm describing what i think is happening to this thread.

You ignored the first line of my post btw you quoted but you would do that.

WAW · 29-05-2020 06:35PM

Media reporting numbers everyday doom and gloom. Flip it over and report that those people are now immune.

weldoninhio · 29-05-2020 06:37PM

Strumms wrote: »

Or is he. What you can’t see on this photo of part of a document is that it’s not from an Irish citizen, a concerned citizen concerned for the economy..it’s Ryanair headed paper, it’s a correspondence from the Ryanair CEO, he is acting and corresponding in that capacity. Every word and utterance is not with the health, wellbeing, happiness and safety of the citizens of this country in mind, it’s with the health and wellbeing of his airline in mind, the ability of them to make money.... he is another who would see no negativity in there being human casualties in order to facilitate this, in fact he is advocating it. Fück him, I’ve travelled Ryanair more then any other airline due to them having great competitive fares but he’s seen the last of my cash... Aer Lingus and whoever else all the way from here on in...

Yes, I’m sure extremely successful businessman Michael O’Leary hasn’t the foresight to see how bad a resurrection of the virus from his company would be for his and all airlines. He hasn’t thought about the impact on air travel if a second European wave was to arrive and prompt another EU wide lockdown. He’d probably prefer to get a months money and lockdown for another three months, than get an entire years money now that the virus has subsided. He just wants some more money.

He’s probably so successful by luck sure anyway, eh??

titan18 · 29-05-2020 06:38PM

Ginger n Lemon wrote: »

We already are.

Lol MOL "We are not endangering lives, we are just following some idiotic science that exists only in Ireland"

You think for someone who runs an airline company, he'd be aware most European countries still have quarantines in place, and will do for a decent period of time for Irish people.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.euronews.com/amp/2020/05/28/which-european-countries-have-opened-their-borders-ahead-of-the-summer-holiday-season

stephenjmcd · 29-05-2020 06:43PM

RobitTV wrote: »

Dr Tony Holohan says he is ‘not surprised’ that Ryanair's Michael O’Leary has a concern about quarantine measures for people arriving in Ireland. The CMO says he believes normal airline travel will not return ‘in the near term’.

See you in court Holohan. O'Leary isn't going to back down.

Dont know about courts but ultimately this isn't going to be down to the CMO. When the rest of Europe gets moving there'll be sweet fcuk all he can do to stop it here. A proper government with a proper minister for transport and tourism knows it as well.

https://twitter.com/rtenews/status/1266420602409234434?s=19

bb1234567 · 29-05-2020 06:45PM

yosemitesam1 wrote: »

Leo on the news saying we need to cut community spread further and further reduce the strength of the virus before 2m being reduced to 1.5m

What community spread? I thought they said it was zero literally a month ago?

Ginger n Lemon · 29-05-2020 06:45PM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

Dont know about courts but ultimately this isn't going to be down to the CMO. When the rest of Europe gets moving there'll be sweet fcuk all he can do to stop it here. A proper government with a proper minister for transport and tourism knows it as well.

https://twitter.com/rtenews/status/1266420602409234434?s=19

At this stage Tony is like an old dog, keeps doing some crappy tricks to attract attention but knows his time is running out.

Good riddance.

mloc123 · 29-05-2020 06:46PM

How will Tony try to spin the low numbers every day into continued fear?

weldoninhio · 29-05-2020 06:47PM

foxy_j wrote: »

We were invited to a friend's for a BBQ this weekend. Bit surprised tbh and not sure that's wise at the moment. I know it's outdoors but I'll deffo need the loo while there and obviously we'd be using their cutlery, plates etc. Thoughts?

Go for it.

TheCitizen · 29-05-2020 06:49PM

growleaves wrote: »

I've been pointing that out from day one. In fact the framework document says that the plan can be accelerated purely on the basis of economic considerations.

That's what I said. Son now that the results are good we'll hopefully see that.

growleaves wrote: »

No one on this thread has floated any conspiracy theories or been obnoxious to guards, which are what O'Doherty is known for. This guilt by association tactic is very tired. If I knew more about you I could connect you to some obnoxious or crazed person who shares your political tendency, no doubt.

Really? Selective reading on your part.

titan18 · 29-05-2020 06:49PM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

Dont know about courts but ultimately this isn't going to be down to the CMO. When the rest of Europe gets moving there'll be sweet fcuk all he can do to stop it here. A proper government with a proper minister for transport and tourism knows it as well.

https://twitter.com/rtenews/status/1266420602409234434?s=19

Plenty of Europe isn't moving though. As it is, Norway are allowing Danish visitors from June 15 but everyone else is still August 20th. That's just one more example, there are plenty more only allowing visitors from some countries and a lot of those are from mid June or July.

is_that_so · 29-05-2020 06:49PM

mloc123 wrote: »

How will Tony try to spin the low numbers every day into continued fear?

They'll be going to twice a week, probably in Phase 2, so after 8 June.

Relaxation of Restrictions, Part III - **Read OP for Mod Warnings**

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Relaxation of Restrictions, Part III - Read OP for Mod Warnings