Relaxation of Restrictions, Part III - Read OP for Mod Warnings

Ginger n Lemon · 28-05-2020 06:51PM

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I cant give exact location - lets go with Dublin North, my local Aldi has stopped doing queues and social distancing at the door.

People were queuing by themselves for about 3 - 4 minutes before penny dropped for the first person who realised theres no security guard, walked in. Everybody followed through.

Absolutely brilliant. Security guard was inside the shop wearing a mask and just standing, looking around. Basically instead of being a doorman he became a security guard. Funny enough Aldi staff arent wearing masks, they must know something we dont.

setanta1984 · 28-05-2020 06:54PM

All the countries in Europe can announce that they are opening bars, cafes, restaurants and lifting travel restrictions with a weeks notice, but apparently we have to stick rigidly to a 3 month farce. It’s utterly embarrassing why we are treated so differently.

28-05-2020 06:56PM

Allowing the DIY stores to open up has been a good idea, for anyone willing to get into a long queue. Then I thought, sure I'll order online and get it sent out to me. Went onto woodies.ie and they have a daily allowance of online orders, tried each day and still got the message saying they have reached their daily limit. Even tried just after midnight, still the same thing.

So I tried other online stores in Ireland and the garden power tool and related accessories I'm after was almost double the price in some other shops as it was in woodies, or not available at all.
Then, of course went to amazon.co.uk and placed the order with a UK supplier, will have my items next week plus saved on shipping and overall cost

Irish businesses looking to open up again are not making it easy for themselves even when they do open up. My money, for the second time over the last couple of weeks went to a UK supplier rather than one based here in Ireland.

Lundstram · 28-05-2020 06:56PM

It's incredible to think we still have 10 more days to go until a person can go beyond 5km for anything other than an essential trip. You'll have the Gardai swarming the roads and beaches over the BH weekend, you'd almost think we had 500 cases and 100 deaths per day.

Go to phase 2 on Tuesday FFS.

dalyboy · 28-05-2020 07:04PM

JL555 wrote: »

Allowing the DIY stores to open up has been a good idea, for anyone willing to get into a long queue. Then I thought, sure I'll order online and get it sent out to me. Went onto woodies.ie and they have a daily allowance of online orders, tried each day and still got the message saying they have reached their daily limit. Even tried just after midnight, still the same thing.

So I tried other online stores in Ireland and the garden power tool and related accessories I'm after was almost double the price in some other shops as it was in woodies, or not available at all.
Then, of course went to amazon.co.uk and placed the order with a UK supplier, will have my items next week plus saved on shipping and overall cost

Irish businesses looking to open up again are not making it easy for themselves even when they do open up. My money, for the second time over the last couple of weeks went to a UK supplier rather than one based here in Ireland.

Thing is they know they’re days are numbered regardless of the lockdown business hit. Everything like DIY , clothes , electronics etc are going to be online 2-3 years from now. Physical static shops will be a thing of the past.

is_that_so · 28-05-2020 07:06PM

Lundstram wrote: »

It's incredible to think we still have 10 more days to go until a person can go beyond 5km for anything other than an essential trip. You'll have the Gardai swarming the roads and beaches over the BH weekend, you'd almost think we had 500 cases and 100 deaths per day.

Go to phase 2 on Tuesday FFS.

Bad news is that the forecast is really good as well!

MonkstownHoop · 28-05-2020 07:12PM

dalyboy wrote: »

Physical static shops will be a thing of the past.

Dunnes sell online yet Cornelscourts Drapery section is up on sales from previous years, people will always want to browse in shops, even on days like today when i couldn't think of anywhere worse to be.

stephenjmcd · 28-05-2020 07:25PM

https://twitter.com/rtenews/status/1266063679629529089?s=19

Galwayguy35 · 28-05-2020 07:26PM

Lundstram wrote: »

It's incredible to think we still have 10 more days to go until a person can go beyond 5km for anything other than an essential trip. You'll have the Gardai swarming the roads and beaches over the BH weekend, you'd almost think we had 500 cases and 100 deaths per day.

Go to phase 2 on Tuesday FFS.

I'm just home after spending the evening at the lake in Loughrea, lots of people out enjoying themselves while at the same time giving each other enough space and it was great to see it with this nice weather we are having.

Folks have decided themselves enough is enough and want to enjoy the summer.

dalyboy · 28-05-2020 07:26PM

Lundstram wrote: »

It's incredible to think we still have 10 more days to go until a person can go beyond 5km for anything other than an essential trip. You'll have the Gardai swarming the roads and beaches over the BH weekend, you'd almost think we had 500 cases and 100 deaths per day.

Go to phase 2 on Tuesday FFS.

I couldn’t care less at this point regarding the 5km absurdity. I had my kids down at the packed beach for the last 4 days in a row. Great to see people out living again. Ice cream van selling his wears to beat the band and happy faces on everyone. Fantastic for the economy reboot.

RobitTV · 28-05-2020 07:35PM

Updates:

Dr Tony Holohan says they are advising against indoor gatherings, and they will be giving consideration to when they think it is the right time to reopen churches, after it emerged a church in Dublin opened its doors for mass

Professor Philip Nolan, the Chair of the NPHET Irish Epidemiological Modelling Advisory Group, has said all indicators of Covid-19 are either "stable or declining"

Professor Philip Nolan says that almost everything he is seeing is "astonishingly stable"

Prof Philip Nolan said the level of disease in the community remains "very low" with about 50 cases per day

The Minister for Education, Joe McHugh, said it is hard to see all students being back at school in September

RobitTV · 28-05-2020 07:39PM

Dr Tony Holohan says they are advising against indoor gatherings

Good luck with that one Tony. The weather is going to fantastic for the next few days and people are going to visit friends and family and that's the end of the story.

Most people are now travelling beyond the 5km and we are already starting to break the 5km nonsense before it even ends in June.

People aren't going to be locked away when the weather is going to be 25-26° in some areas of the country.

Holohan knows in his head the game is up.

Spanish Eyes · 28-05-2020 07:42PM

RobitTV wrote: »

Dr Tony Holohan says they are advising against indoor gatherings

Good luck with that one Tony. The weather is going to fantastic for the next few days and people are going to visit friends and family and that's the end of the story.

Most people are now travelling beyond the 5km and we are already starting to break the 5km nonsense before it even ends in June.

People aren't going to be locked away when the weather is going to be 25-26° in some areas of the country.

Holohan knows in his head the game is up.

Why would you be inside if visiting family and the weather is glorious? He said Indoor gatherings not outside. But you might need to clean the jax after every visit by the masses gathering in the family lol.

RobitTV · 28-05-2020 07:44PM

Spanish Eyes wrote: »

Why would you be inside if visiting family and the weather is glorious? He said Indoor gatherings not outside. But you might need to clean the jax after every visit by the masses gathering in the family lol.

Some people might enter the house at night time perhaps when it starts getting chillier outside. There will be a good amount of parties happening this weekend for sure.

Spanish Eyes · 28-05-2020 07:47PM

RobitTV wrote: »

Some people might enter the house at night time perhaps when it starts getting chillier outside. There will be a good amount of parties happening this weekend for sure.

Ah look it, I know this. But please for your family's sake observe the basic rules of hand washing and all that. Enjoy.

RobitTV · 28-05-2020 07:47PM

Ryanair are not holding back they are still posting the routes online for people to view and book

https://twitter.com/RyanairPress/status/1265686287396331520
https://twitter.com/Ryanair/status/1265985267690807296

fr336 · 28-05-2020 07:56PM

It's like kids waiting for Christmas this is. Is not dying not a good enough reason to WAIT? Enjoy the rest of 2020. There will be more sunny days. There will be more bank holidays. I shudder to think how the west would do in a war these days.

fin12 · 28-05-2020 07:57PM

I would have loved to go to the beach today and go for a swim, it would have definitely improved my mood and mental health but I just couldn’t face the Gardaí checkpoint I would definitely encounter. I was really grilled at one and now I’ve got pretty bad anxiety thinking about being in one.

VonLuck · 28-05-2020 07:57PM

RobitTV wrote: »

Most people are now travelling beyond the 5km and we are already starting to break the 5km nonsense before it even ends in June.

What are you basing that on?

The latest opinion poll shows that only 41% of adults are breaking the 5km limit and 79% of those that did break the limit did so for work or shopping.

RobitTV · 28-05-2020 08:00PM

VonLuck wrote: »

What are you basing that on?

The latest opinion poll shows that only 41% of adults are breaking the 5km limit and 79% of those that did break the limit did so for work or shopping.

Well i live near a large coastal town and the Gardai have pretty much given up trying to stop people from entering.

The weather is just too nice and people are willing to take a chance at this stage.

RobitTV · 28-05-2020 08:03PM

fin12 wrote: »

I would have loved to go to the beach today and go for a swim, it would have definitely improved my mood and mental health but I just couldn’t face the Gardaí checkpoint I would definitely encounter. I was really grilled at one and now I’ve got pretty bad anxiety thinking about being in one.

Don't worry anymore about it

this Saturday there is going to be great mass of people breaking the 5km limit, heading down to the beaches to enjoy the great weather.

I hope you manage to go out for a swim.

VonLuck · 28-05-2020 08:03PM

RobitTV wrote: »

Well i live near a large coastal town and the Gardai have pretty much given up trying to stop people from entering.

The weather is just too nice and people are willing to take a chance at this stage.

Well that's all the proof I need.

Idbatterim · 28-05-2020 08:05PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Incredible that countries hit much harder than us are going to be fully reopen and a huge number of Irish are not even allowed to see family for another 2 months almost.

Do it. Visit family. This situation is insanity. Ignore them , there are five million of us. What will they do ?

RugbyLad11 · 28-05-2020 08:06PM

Lundstram wrote: »

It's incredible to think we still have 10 more days to go until a person can go beyond 5km for anything other than an essential trip. You'll have the Gardai swarming the roads and beaches over the BH weekend, you'd almost think we had 500 cases and 100 deaths per day.

Go to phase 2 on Tuesday FFS.

It's ridiculous and I belive we are the only European country with this limit.

But at the end of the day the worst the Guards can do is advise you to go home if you get caught going to the beach or whatever, so if you want to go then go becasue it's better for everyones mental health

Idbatterim · 28-05-2020 08:06PM

fin12 wrote: »

I would have loved to go to the beach today and go for a swim, it would have definitely improved my mood and mental health but I just couldn’t face the Gardaí checkpoint I would definitely encounter. I was really grilled at one and now I’ve got pretty bad anxiety thinking about being in one.

You cant walk or cycle to beach I take it...

road_high · 28-05-2020 08:06PM

RobitTV wrote: »

Ryanair are not holding back they are still posting the routes online for people to view and book

https://twitter.com/RyanairPress/status/1265686287396331520
https://twitter.com/Ryanair/status/1265985267690807296

Love Ryanair. When Oleary sees something like this he’ll use it for maximum publicity. They smell blood in the water and now it’s safe to do so will make a mockery of our supposed betters and powers that be. Bravo

fin12 · 28-05-2020 08:07PM

Idbatterim wrote: »

You cant walk or cycle to beach I take it...

No the nearest beach to me is like 45 mins drive.

GocRh · 28-05-2020 08:08PM

Ginger n Lemon wrote: »

I think I read somewhere that Aviation contributes 9 -12% of all governments tax income for the year. Something like 4/5 billion euros per year.

If Ryanair doesnt fly we ll be 10% poorer on top of all the lost tax revenue from fall in retail, hospitality etc.

Seriously concerning. Aerlingus is 2nd biggest contributor but obviously much smaller than Ryanair as passengers carried per year is like 20 m vs 150m.

That figure probably includes all of the aircraft leasing companies that are based in Ireland.

Over 50 aircraft leasing companies are based in Ireland, including 14 of the world's top 15 lessors
Over 60% of all leased aircraft worldwide are managed by Irish-based leasing companies
Ireland has a 65% share of the global leasing market
Almost 80% of Ireland's double tax treaties deliver a favourable result for aviation finance companies

https://www.pwc.ie/industries/aviation-finance.html

stephenjmcd · 28-05-2020 08:08PM

VonLuck wrote: »

What are you basing that on?

The latest opinion poll shows that only 41% of adults are breaking the 5km limit and 79% of those that did break the limit did so for work or shopping.

And I'm sure everyone tells the truth in an opinion poll....
Only have to take a look at the local garda Facebook page to know people are breaking the 5k rule today. It's as plain as day its not being stuck to. Fair enough if your own close group aren't breaking it but most I know have all travelled over 5k in the last week for non essential reasons.

In my local district Gardaí today turned back more than 100 cars with people having travelled from places like Clonee, Dundalk and all parts of Dublin. More than 40 fixed charge notices were issued for illegal parking.

prunudo · 28-05-2020 08:09PM

RugbyLad11 wrote: »

It's redicuoult and I belive we are the only European country with this limit.

But at the end of the day the worst the Guards can do is advise you to go home if you get caught going to the beach or whatever, so if you want to go then go becasue it's better for everyones mental health

Heard today that France had a 100km restriction in place but bar the initial tight restrictions that Spain and Italy had , afaik we were the only ones that had a staged 2, 5, 20km limits

Relaxation of Restrictions, Part III - **Read OP for Mod Warnings**

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Relaxation of Restrictions, Part III - Read OP for Mod Warnings