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Covid19 Part XVII-24,841 in ROI (1,639 deaths) 4,679 in NI (518 deaths)(28/05)Read OP

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  • #8792
    Tony EH
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,813 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    BattleCorp wrote: »
    I'm not saying the death rate will be the same. I was responding to the point that was made saying that viruses weaken. I'm using that as an example of where a virus didn't weaken, but came back stronger.

    The second wave of the Hong Kong flu in 1959 was stronger too.

    There are no rules written in stone with any viral outbreak.


  • #8793
    Always_Running
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,846 ✭✭✭Always_Running


    Fair play to Sligo 10 days and Kerry 1 week without a reported case.


  • #8794
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 10,049 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Onesea wrote: »
    96.5% of those effected in Italy were 60+
    So more lethal to the old and ill.

    And they don’t count as people of course


  • #8795
    fullstop
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 12,276 ✭✭✭✭fullstop


    Eod100 wrote: »
    We won't know what to do with ourselves..

    https://twitter.com/newschambers/status/1265339048991887360

    RIP, to the daily presser.


  • #8796
    igCorcaigh
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 13,014 Mod ✭✭✭✭igCorcaigh


    Tony EH wrote: »
    The second wave of the Hong Kong flu in 1959 was stronger too.

    There are no rules written in stone with any viral outbreak.

    Perhaps, all of this social distancing could select for a more contagious virus. Although that doesn't relate to lethality at all. We may be left with an ever present less lethal strain? I don't know.


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  • #8797
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 10,049 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Onesea wrote: »
    Same family of virus, corona. People may not be meaning they are so similar in effect.

    You complete ignorance on the subject has been here for all to view but this caps it. The are 4 mild species of corona virus that cause about 15% of common colds. Flu is caused by a completely unrelated virus called inFLUenza.


  • #8798
    Arghus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 15,647 ✭✭✭✭Arghus


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    Can anyone find the season flu stats for Italy where they locked down the country after the outbreak? Because unless you can it is not a valid comparison

    https://euromomo.eu/graphs-and-maps

    If you go down halfway through that page you'll be able to find individual graphs for each of the 24 jurisdictions included in the survey, showing their rates of excess mortality, often attributed to influenza, going back to late 2017.

    Italy is there, showing a few peaks and troughs and then a sudden huge spike in the early months of 2020.

    The UK is probably the worst looking one though.


  • #8799
    Emmersonn
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,093 ✭✭✭Emmersonn


    Tony EH wrote: »
    The second wave of the Hong Kong flu in 1959 was stronger too.

    There are no rules written in stone with any viral outbreak.
    Should your user name be (Dr) Tony Ho :D


  • #8800
    igCorcaigh
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 13,014 Mod ✭✭✭✭igCorcaigh


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    You complete ignorance on the subject has been here for all to view but this caps it. The are 4 mild species of corona virus that cause about 15% of common colds. Flu is caused by a completely unrelated virus called inFLUenza.

    Ah, we're all here to learn. And all open to correction.


  • #8801
    Non solum non ambulabit
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,089 ✭✭✭Non solum non ambulabit


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    And they don’t count as people of course

    I hate these comments


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  • #8802
    niallo27
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,145 ✭✭✭✭niallo27


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Isn’t it better to prepare for a second wave in case it does come rather than not prepare because it might not come

    No because the clowns in charge will shut the place down again.


  • #8803
    Onesea
    Closed Accounts Posts: 475 ✭✭Onesea


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    And they don’t count as people of course

    That's your opinion.

    The majority of tax payers are below that age so....


  • #8804
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 10,049 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    niallo27 wrote: »
    No because the clowns in charge will shut the place down again.

    Not if we prepare properly


  • #8805
    Onesea
    Closed Accounts Posts: 475 ✭✭Onesea


    Arghus wrote: »
    https://euromomo.eu/graphs-and-maps

    If you go down halfway through that page you'll be able to find individual graphs for each of the 24 jurisdictions included in the survey, showing their rates of excess mortality, often attributed to influenza, going back to late 2017.

    Italy is there, showing a few peaks and troughs and then a sudden huge spike in the early months of 2020.

    The UK is probably the worst looking one though.

    I think Italy lost 25000 people to flu in 16 into 17,


  • #8806
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 10,049 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Onesea wrote: »
    That's your opinion.

    The majority of tax payers are below that age so....

    Ah, so only taxpayers count as people, got it


  • #8807
    Onesea
    Closed Accounts Posts: 475 ✭✭Onesea


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    Not if we prepare properly

    It would be a case of businesses simply giving up as opossed to preparing for another lockdown.


  • #8808
    Arghus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 15,647 ✭✭✭✭Arghus


    Onesea wrote: »
    That's your opinion.

    The majority of tax payers are below that age so....

    Probably stop digging at this point


  • #8809
    YFlyer
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,712 ✭✭✭YFlyer


    Too early to determine if there be an upward trajectory.


  • #8810
    Onesea
    Closed Accounts Posts: 475 ✭✭Onesea


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    Ah, so only taxpayers count as people, got it

    No, that's just your opinion.


  • #8811
    Rob A. Bank
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,842 ✭✭✭Rob A. Bank


    Always_Running wrote: »
    Fair play to Sligo 10 days and Kerry 1 week without a reported case.

    The R0 is interesting... just as the virus can take off explosively when the R0 is 4 or 5, it diminishes very quickly too when the R0 is less than 0.5.

    The virus literally cannot find another human to infect so it dies out quickly.

    As long as Sligo and Kerry are not unlucky enough to have a new case seeded in they are in the clear. Fair dues to them.


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  • #8812
    Tony EH
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,813 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    Emmersonn wrote: »
    Should your user name be (Dr) Tony Ho :D

    I'll re-reg.


  • #8813
    Rob A. Bank
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,842 ✭✭✭Rob A. Bank


    Onesea wrote: »
    That's your opinion.

    The majority of tax payers are below that age so....

    Mmm... so people over 65 don't pay VAT on things they buy !

    You are not getting any younger and I hope when you get to pension age, you will not have groups of smartass pricks writing you off. Useful only as sacrificial offerings to the market God.


  • #8814
    Plumbthedepths
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    Grim reading in how the state failed the elderly...

    https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/ireland/states-reaction-to-covid-19-in-nursing-homes-a-gigantic-failure-says-td-1001835.html


  • #8815
    igCorcaigh
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 13,014 Mod ✭✭✭✭igCorcaigh


    To get back to the question of grim statistics though. I recently listen to a podcast where someone mentioned the 2009 swine flu pandemic causing around half a million deaths

    Seemed like a high estimate to me.

    Wiki says this, with 500,000 at the upper estimate:

    18,449 (lab-confirmed deaths reported to WHO; flu patients were generally not tested)

    284,000 (range 151,700–575,400) (CDC and WHO estimate)

    It's a big variation from 18k lab confirmed to 500k estimated.

    I wonder what the true scale of this pandemic is.
    We might never know.


  • #8816
    timsey tiger
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,599 ✭✭✭timsey tiger


    jackboy wrote: »
    He is an intention seeking clown.

    Prob. would have stuck his finger up his nose if he hadn't had a mask on.


  • #8817
    Dante7
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,542 ✭✭✭Dante7


    Rob A. Bank wrote: »
    Mmm... so people over 65 don't pay VAT on things they buy !

    You are not getting any younger and I hope when you get to pension age, you will not have groups of smartass pricks writing you off. Useful only as sacrificial offerings to the market God.

    I doubt he'll live to 65. Someone who knows him in real life is bound to kick him to death long before then.


  • #8818
    polesheep
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,950 ✭✭✭polesheep


    BattleCorp wrote: »
    Some people will stay working from home or will work from home on a hybrid basis.

    Some businesses that closed because of the virus will never open up again.

    Screens in shops and places like that are probably there to stay.

    Some people will get into the habit of social distancing and will try to keep their distance wherever possible.

    It will affect high street shops too. Many people who never shopped online will continue to do so now that they have popped that cherry    .

    Come back in six months time and these things will be no more than a distant memory.


  • #8819
    timsey tiger
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,599 ✭✭✭timsey tiger


    political analyst wrote: »
    Extension of restrictions and the ban on people going out for a walk (that was in Spain, of course, and has since been lifted) constitute collective punishment (prohibited by the Geneva Convention) because they restrict people's movements just because of a small possibility of having the virus and so punishes them for something that is nothing to do with them.

    Obviously, 'Minority Report' was prescient.

    What were the people being punished for?


  • #8820
    What Username Guidelines
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,139 ✭✭✭What Username Guidelines


    polesheep wrote: »
    Come back in six months time and these things will be no more than a distant memory.

    I’ve been of this opinion in the last while and I’m not sure why. Quite anxious at the beginning but now I’m getting the feeling like other pandemics it will come in waves or even just a single wave. Maybe it’s just mentally protecting myself. Would be absolutely class if it went away by itself. I just can’t see how it would though.


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  • #8821
    igCorcaigh
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 13,014 Mod ✭✭✭✭igCorcaigh


    What Username Guidelines wrote: »
    I’ve been of this opinion in the last while and I’m not sure why. Quite anxious at the beginning but now I’m getting the feeling like other pandemics it will come in waves or even just a single wave. Maybe it’s just mentally protecting myself. Would be absolutely class if it went away by itself. I just can’t see how it would though.

    Yeah, I'm with you.

    It's also fascinating to see the word respond to this event. We are living through history. A very interesting period in time that may take a while to sort out in our collective memory.


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