Relaxation of Restrictions, Part III - Read OP for Mod Warnings

faceman · 24-05-2020 06:14PM

What’s interesting about the current trend in our virus numbers is that we have similar figures to Austria - yet Austria have been open for a month!

SEPT 23 1989 · 24-05-2020 06:21PM

Big construction projects resumed last week for a trickle of men it's going to be two weeks before they are going full whack

So it's late June for me to see if we have a handle on this

Fingers crossed

hopalongcass · 24-05-2020 06:35PM

Lyle wrote: »

Unfortunately people usually aren't symptomatic until 5 - 7 days post contact with the infection (97% of people are symptomatic by day 11) so while it's good that we didn't hold in triple digits over the weekend, we're still probably a few days off seeing where we're at with the Phase 1 openings. Always a bit of a drop on numbers over a weekend anyway, but it's really later on next week, maybe the number from Tuesday to Friday, for us to start seeing whatever impact or change to the daily tally that the re-openings have caused.
Likelihood is the numbers will go up to triple digits daily again, but the important thing is that they don't jump too much, too quickly. We're unlikely to see steadily decreasing numbers as we re-open, the best thing is to see it stay steady or increase by only small amounts, keeping the R0 at a manageable level.

I doubt as well we're gonna see acceleration in terms of timeline, the three week gap between Phases is something I think they're gonna hold tough on, but they might consider jumping some small things from Phase 4 up to Phase 3, or Phase 3 up into Phase 2 (less likely imo) if we can keep the transmission tightly locked down. Hopefully we also get some criteria for what NPHET are looking at in regards to where the goalposts are to keep us advancing through the Phases. So far we don't really have a working metric, I think it'd be great for people mentally to have a goal point in mind where we know we're gonna be able to progress on schedule.

Most of this is just wild conjecture,if any of the stuff we have been told was even remotely true we should have seen some of the countries with poorer healthcare systems than ours get overrun.

Lots of poorer more densely populated Asian countries a lot close to China than us and their numbers are minimal.Pandemic,Where is the pandemic?We are 6 months into this and 300k deaths worldwide out of a 7 billion population.Its cleary just a bad flu and nothing more,the varying results across countries using wildly different measures should be proof enough by now that there is no reason to believe lockdown does anything other than destroys our economy.

People like you are still harping on with this symptomatic rubbish when they barely even have a reliable test for Covid,but they have it down that 97% of people are symptomatic by day 11 cop on to yourself.

road_high · 24-05-2020 06:49PM

faceman wrote: »

What’s interesting about the current trend in our virus numbers is that we have similar figures to Austria - yet Austria have been open for a month!

Sensible Europeans. Not been through several world wars for nothing. Strong work ethic. We like to think we are special out here and morally superior

RobitTV · 24-05-2020 06:52PM

Spanish people are taking action while maintaining social distancing because they wan't to get back to work and make sure they have jobs to go back to.

https://twitter.com/rtvcyl/status/1264167965999738880

road_high · 24-05-2020 06:53PM

Heckler wrote: »

Went to see my isolating mother. Cocoon is a terrible word. Like fcking moths or something. Was outside the magic 5km. Ditches lined with the dead on my way back home.

Good for you pal. I’m sure you were both delighted to see one another, wtf is life for if we can’t go live and see our loved ones?
Cocoon is desperate- I never use it. It’s what insects do when changing life cycles. Reminds me of the film Alien.
Absolute rubbish much like social distancing for me

road_high · 24-05-2020 06:55PM

Proud of our beautiful neighbors down in Spain there- I doubt they get anything like €350 and so many depend on little businesses especially in the more touristy areas.

py2006 · 24-05-2020 06:58PM

alta stare wrote: »

Good stuff as it is good to keep the mind and body active. You do 2km happy days, i find that isnt enough for me so i go further....so happy days. No harm no foul. I havent killed anyone...yet. Tomorrow i will do 40km and i wont feel one bit guilty about it.

Also, i never said you had to walk a marathon i was merely pointing out that we can go beyond 2km and in doing so we wont kill people despite what those in power tell us.

You can go 5km, and you can very easily do 40km while staying within that radius of your home.

How do you know you haven't passed it on to somebody? How do you know you won't get it from somebody?

RobitTV · 24-05-2020 06:59PM

People in Spain work so hard for so little. They don't get the same social welfare allowances as we have and the minimum wage is just enough to scrape by on each week.

This is a country that has suffered massively from the recession and had a 27% unemployment rate in 2013.

They have suffered like Greece for years now and the country is going back to square one again.

VillageIdiot71 · 24-05-2020 07:01PM

hopalongcass wrote: »

Most of this is just wild conjecture,if any of the stuff we have been told was even remotely true we should have seen some of the countries with poorer healthcare systems than ours get overrun..

With that thought in mind, Brazil is worth looking at.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-52719391

A lot of cases, but with a 200 million population its also a much larger country.

hopalongcass · 24-05-2020 07:09PM

VillageIdiot71 wrote: »

With that thought in mind, Brazil is worth looking at.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-52719391

A lot of cases, but with a 200 million population its also a much larger country.

They still have substantially less deaths than the UK with about 3 times the population.

The lockdown enthusiasts were posting videos from Ecuador a couple weeks ago sadly for them it failed to materialise,there is no pandemic we have not seen any country hit numbers that are much worse than a seasonal flu.Italy has tapered off as has Spain.How can there be a pandemic without numbers higher than an average flu.

People have really lost the plot with this one,surely with a pandemic one country out of the whole world using all different kinds of measures would have to have become overrun by now 6 months into it,but it hasn't happened.

Ginger n Lemon · 24-05-2020 07:10PM

VillageIdiot71 wrote: »

With that thought in mind, Brazil is worth looking at.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-52719391

A lot of cases, but with a 200 million population its also a much larger country.

I am happy you said that last sentence. Usual posters here would just say "mass graves in Brazil" as if tens of millions are dying.

Unfortunately BBC article chooses to show 2 men in white astronaut suits carrying a coffin. Desperate scare mongering when death rates in Brazil are 0.008% of population and as is road crashes account for more deaths there than covid. All of this is very unfortunate, but with 200 million population its naive to expect no to little deaths.

LiquidZeb · 24-05-2020 07:14PM

road_high wrote: »

Good for you pal. I’m sure you were both delighted to see one another, wtf is life for if we can’t go live and see our loved ones?
Cocoon is desperate- I never use it. It’s what insects do when changing life cycles. Reminds me of the film Alien.
Absolute rubbish much like social distancing for me

Yeah the whole cocooning line is just orwellian pc sweet-talk to make the pill that bit less bitter. It irks me every time I read or hear it.

RobitTV · 24-05-2020 07:15PM

Irish new cases grew by (+0.23%) today
Deaths by (+0.25%)

We are now continuing this lockdown until August for a growth rate that is now averaging (0.25-0.40%)

Come off it Holohan...

iamwhoiam · 24-05-2020 07:17PM

LiquidZeb wrote: »

Yeah the whole cocooning line is just orwellian pc sweet-talk to make the pill that bit less bitter. It irks me every time I read or hear it.

My husband laughs at the word cocoon and tells everyone he emerged as a hairy old moth and not a butterfly as he hoped

Stark · 24-05-2020 07:18PM

road_high wrote: »

Good for you pal. I’m sure you were both delighted to see one another, wtf is life for if we can’t go live and see our loved ones?
Cocoon is desperate- I never use it. It’s what insects do when changing life cycles. Reminds me of the film Alien.
Absolute rubbish much like social distancing for me

I thought it was a reference to the film "Cocoon"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WM-LEKcnhag

road_high · 24-05-2020 07:18PM

LiquidZeb wrote: »

Yeah the whole cocooning line is just orwellian pc sweet-talk to make the pill that bit less bitter. It irks me every time I read or hear it.

Like the constant radio ads and supermarket announcements. It’s like there’s no escape from the brainwashing. People scoff but it’s little different to what George Orwell predicted

stephenjmcd · 24-05-2020 07:38PM

road_high wrote: »

Like the constant radio ads and supermarket announcements. It’s like there’s no escape from the brainwashing. People scoff but it’s little different to what George Orwell predicted

Can't stand that we're in this together this isn't us hold firm ad. Every time I sit down to just relax and watch some TV, watch a movie to try forget about everything for a few hours that ad comes up every time.

Galwayguy35 · 24-05-2020 07:42PM

road_high wrote: »

Like the constant radio ads and supermarket announcements. It’s like there’s no escape from the brainwashing. People scoff but it’s little different to what George Orwell predicted

Yeah this "we're all in this together" bullsh1t advert you hear about 10 times a day.

Just chatting to a friend of mine today in Germany, everything nearly opened there now and people getting on with life while we are just existing over here.

Ginger n Lemon · 24-05-2020 07:42PM

road_high wrote: »

Like the constant radio ads and supermarket announcements. It’s like there’s no escape from the brainwashing. People scoff but it’s little different to what George Orwell predicted

Went a bit further for my walk today (criminal) to get to Lidl, went in and bought some coffee and orange juice. Walked out and came home now, exciting life in lockdown.

Now that i think about it - no security guard at the door, no 2m marks on the floor, no queue. I experienced pre covid shopping today and it was very good, we have many good things to look forward to.

uli84 · 24-05-2020 07:46PM

Will they seriously not have balls to admit the mistake and open up quicker? It’s madness

RobitTV · 24-05-2020 07:49PM

They would rather keep everyone inside until August and demand we hang on every word coming from Chairman Holohan and his servant Simon Harris.

By the time August arrives the rest of Europe will be back to the original normal. Not the so called 'new normal' the media try and repeat at every opportunity.

Micky 32 · 24-05-2020 07:51PM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

Can't stand that we're in this together this isn't us hold firm ad. .

Yeah listening to that depressing git everytime i went into Dunnes shopping for the parents. Thankfully they haven’t played that government ad lately.

SusieBlue · 24-05-2020 07:54PM

Galwayguy35 wrote: »

Yeah this "we're all in this together" bullsh1t advert you hear about 10 times a day.

Just chatting to a friend of mine today in Germany, everything nearly opened there now and people getting on with life while we are just existing over here.

My friend is in Melbourne and got a new tattoo yesterday. Meanwhile we need to wait till July 20th to get a haircut.

snowcat · 24-05-2020 08:01PM

SusieBlue wrote: »

My friend is in Melbourne and got a new tattoo yesterday. Meanwhile we need to wait till July 20th to get a haircut.

My friend in Malaga sent me a picture of 4 of then sitting having a beer at a bar on the terrace.

RobitTV · 24-05-2020 08:04PM

I said a few days ago that people with some cash behind them should take a long break out of this situation in Ireland and go abroad.

Why in all honesty would you wan't to stick around here until August when you can't do anything? While the rest of Europe can get a haircut, go see family and friends, go and have a drink and socialise with people around you while maintaining social distancing.

All of this will improve the mental health of so many people who have been isolated and lonely for weeks.

Galwayguy35 · 24-05-2020 08:04PM

SusieBlue wrote: »

My friend is in Melbourne and got a new tattoo yesterday. Meanwhile we need to wait till July 20th to get a haircut.

He was telling me the barbers are open there and he got a haircut, he wore a mask and the barber had a mask, gown and gloves.

Sure there is no reason why we can't do the same here.

Unfortunately the three stooges, Leo, Tony and Simon we have in charge aren't capable of that kind of forward thinking.

py2006 · 24-05-2020 08:05PM

RobitTV wrote: »

Why in all honesty would you wan't to stick around here until August when you can't do anything? While the rest of Europe can get a haircut, go see family and friends, go and have a drink and socialise with people around you while maintaining social distancing.

That is not entirely true. And besides, they did say that if things go well in terms of the numbers restrictions may be reviewed.

RobitTV · 24-05-2020 08:07PM

py2006 wrote: »

That is not entirely true. And besides, they did say that if things go well in terms of the numbers restrictions may be reviewed.

There is no way Chairman Holohan is going to speed up the process! :pac:

He has the final say. He isn't going to do anything that will give people some sort of hope in the near future.

He has Leo and Simon under his belt.

py2006 · 24-05-2020 08:09PM

RobitTV wrote: »

There is no way Chairman Holohan is going to speed up the process! :pac:

He has the final say. He isn't going to do anything that will give people some sort of hope in the near future.

He has Leo and Simon under his belt.

Seriously, you really think they have put in these measures for the craic? or that they are stupid?

Its alarming how people assume because they or close family members have not been effected they can do whatever the hell they want.

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Relaxation of Restrictions, Part III - Read OP for Mod Warnings